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[Killjoy-NL]

Clever. Gotta give you that one.

 

[Varteras]

Nothing short of global commercial terrorism!

 

[SlicedBread3]

Agree with what StereoVsn has been saying that we should side with gamers before corporations.

I mean personally I prefer picking sides based on who I think is being more reasonable and/or presenting the best arguments at the time, but that might just be a me thing.

 

[rofif]

For this one GTA4 actually required you to have a Social Club account AND GFWL, GFWL was dropped but Social Club was rebranded into Rockstar Launcher, so technically it's the same requirements still, they just overhauled one of them into a worse service.

No. Social club was dropped and the game only required GFWL for years.
Then they patched launcher in

 

[bender]

I mean personally I prefer picking sides based on who I think is being more reasonable and/or presenting the best arguments at the time, but that might just be a me thing.

 

[GHG]

These kinds of posts are in every single thread related to this at the moment.

 

[YCoCg]

No. Social club was dropped and the game only required GFWL for years.
Then they patched launcher in

Social Club was always there, but it was easy to disable, it's only when it became Rockstar Launcher it was worse because they patched the EXE to require it instead of just using a DLL.

 

[Topher]

I mean personally I prefer picking sides based on who I think is being more reasonable and/or presenting the best arguments at the time, but that might just be a me thing.

Absolutely. Not suggesting gamers are always right. Or at least, that wasn't my intent.

 

[SlicedBread3]

 

[bender]

 

[feynoob]

Yeah I get that but the "horse armour moment" has passed 5 years ago when the likes of EA, MS, Bethesda, Ubisoft, etc did it without any fight back. It's like trying to claim you're fighting horse armour in the already mtx infested industry years later. As I said 3 days ago I do support people complaining about account logins :

It led to this garbage mtx. People kept buying it nonstop and bringing more revenue to Bethesda.

 

[Wolfpact1983]

What the fuck is going on!?!

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

5/6/2024 Liberation Day

 

[Danjin44]

These Steam reviews it just fucking joke, there is no actual review for the game….its all about “agenda”.

 

[Topher]

These Steam reviews it just fucking joke, there is no actual review for the game….its all about “agenda”.

 

[Saber]

If you have multiple accounts for different publishers, just drop the charade.

I don't. Enought with this bud, we win nothing with this. Just admit that once insatisfaction comes to you, you should protest against it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I don't. Enought with this bud, we win nothing with this. Just admit that once insatisfaction comes to you, you should protest against it.

Sure, but it's all relative and most are cherrypicking.

Which I think is hypocritical.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

This is major. I haven't ate or shit today because of this. Because

 

[username12]

The whole scoring system for the game is compromised. Now let's see if we can get it to swing back too far the other way because Sony did something not wrong for a change.

 

[bender]

This is major. I haven't ate or shit today because of this. Because

Hurry up and poop so you can finish your last sentence.

 

[Heisenberg007]

My brother in arms Heisenberg007 also called it Extortion

Because it is. Arm-twisting anyone with threats is extortion.

- Gamers review-bombing the game they like just because they didn't want to link to a PSN account is extortion.
- Sony threatening to ban players who do not link to the PSN account is extortion.

 

[DaGwaphics]

The PSN accounts are no doubt a linchpin of Sony's PC strategy and they can't afford to botch it any further or they will never get PC PSN accounts to be universally accepted.

That's what makes it interesting. The reaction to the trophy support and the overlay was met positively on this board, but the PSN login which would be required for that is looked at negatively.

 

[Loomy]

This is a UX problem for Sony now. "How can we make people take their medicine without knowing they're being fed medicine?"

 

[bender]

This is a UX problem for Sony now. "How can we make people take their medicine without knowing they're being fed medicine?"

Link your account for free access to one Premium War Bound and also receive this exclusive emote.

 

[mdkirby]

This threads comments feel like

 

[poppabk]

Link your account for free access to one Premium War Bound and also receive this exclusive emote.

See that is what they should have done at the outset. Now people are gonna laugh at that and dig their feet in.

 

[RoboFu]

no where near as good as Metroid Dread. Not recommended.

 

[bender]

See that is what they should have done at the outset. Now people are gonna laugh at that and dig their feet in.

I still think it's an easy solution, even after the controversy. Some bullshit napkin math:

-85-90% of the userbase would have been fine mandatorily linking their accounts had Sony's mandate gone into effect today.
-1-3% of the userbase are hardliners and would probably never link their account.
-One free Premium War Bound and an exclusive emote probably sways the 7-14% that are on the fence.

And then, Sony could send their monthly advertising emails that end users can opt out of but in those emails, for those that don't opt out, include a code for free team boosters (forgot what those are called in H2) and some small amount (50?) of Super Credits. That would keep people from opting out of advertisements and actually get them to look at your emails. And finally send them a happy birthday email with 100 Super Credits and thank them for spreading democracy.

Someone give Jim Ryan my number.

 

[StereoVsn]

Hurry up and poop so you can finish your last sentence.

 

[feynoob]

Having to create accounts is already standard procedure.

Characters, maps and extra content were free. Now you have to pay for these stuff.
Never understimate the length these companies will go for.

 

[bender]

At this point, he's made a buck fifty. Bro needs to up his fiber regiment.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Characters, maps and extra content were free. Now you have to pay for these stuff.
Never understimate the length these companies will go for.

Where did it say you'd have to pay to play Helldivers 2 on PC?

Must've missed it.

 

[Buggy Loop]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

rh

The Damage is done

 

[feynoob]

Where did it say you'd have to pay to play Helldivers 2 on PC?

Must've missed it.

Mate, all this mess started when we let do this shit. You understand right. If we let these companies get away with crap, they will do so much shit.

 

[Topher]

Positive reviews today are over 54K

Also, Helldivers 2 is in the top 5 sellers on Steam

Folks in-game has rebounded as well....

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is a UX problem for Sony now. "How can we make people take their medicine without knowing they're being fed medicine?"

make a gambling site

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Mate, all this mess started when we let do this shit. You understand right. If we let these companies get away with crap, they will do so much shit.

Do all the other companies that require an account charge PC gamers to play their games online?

*MMOs excluded

 

[bender]

Also, Helldivers 2 is in the top 5 sellers on Steam

That "Unrefunder" boost?

I'm really curious how many will flip their reviews back to positive. I'd be surprised if it is over 75%.

 

[Portugeezer]

I like pc, I dislike people like you!

 

[Topher]

That "Unrefunder" boost?

I'm really curious how many will flip their reviews back to positive. I'd be surprised if it is over 75%.

Not really sure how to even tell how many have flipped already.

 

[feynoob]

Do all the other companies that require an account charge PC gamers to play their games online?

*MMOs excluded

Man, these companies hire a psychological professional to get us addicted.

You are underestimating the length that they are willing to go.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Positive reviews today are over 54K

Also, Helldivers 2 is in the top 5 sellers on Steam

Folks in-game has rebounded as well....

 

[Topher]

 

[feynoob]

Is that Phil Spencer?

 

[Mr Moose]

Is that Phil Spencer?

Little Chicken

 

[Varteras]

 

[Topher]

Now I know what I'm having for dinner tonight....

 

[GHG]

 

[lifa-cobex]