Yup, yup. It's gotten quite annoying. Half of gaf likes to act like they're insiders because someone from the industry once replied to a twitter question they posed.
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There's absolutely no chance that Sony would ever make a Demon's Souls 2 (right?)
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Yup, yup. It's gotten quite annoying. Half of gaf likes to act like they're insiders because someone from the industry once replied to a twitter question they posed.
It's co-developed with SCEJ.
Even if that were the case, how do you know they're not "in talks" right now as well?
FunkyPajamas
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I'm going with "he doesn't know shit". The dream of Demon's Souls 2 lives!
In my heart
Because in this case Sony owns the IP...
Not saying I believe it's happening or anything, but it really is a different situation
I thought they just worked on the engine together.
It's an entirely different issue. We're talking about the existence of a first party game, not if a third party game that was announced years ago as an exclusive will be co-developed/kept exclusive by Sony. The management shift at SE was also a factor since Wada was prone to the co-development idea.
Anyone who has played both games knows they are totally different. The whole level design, world and lore are different, except the combat, which remained the same(as it should have)
I don't really see people "clinging to it", more like simply wanting it, and I don't see anything wrong with that. I would personally prefer a new IP but another Demon's Souls wouldn't be bad at all.
Indeed it is, in this scenario From would abandon a good chunk of the audience they've been building over the past four years for something that essentially would be almost identical to Dark Souls 3 or whatever, since going back to Demon's Souls doesn't necessarily mean going back to a hub with worlds and levels. Even with the balance shifting towards PS4 there is too much redundancy between both franchises and not much to gain by working on the one that hasn't seen a release in five years and counting. Now, King's Field, on the other hand...
LegendofDragoonLives
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Not from Sony's perspective. Or people who want to play as much of these types of games.
So, I just accidentally stumbled over that little comment on Playstation blog from an Atlus employee:
"PS Blog Exclusive: can 100% confirm there will NOT be a Demon Souls 2."
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014...ps3-in-north-america/comment-page-2/#comments
Demon's Souls is a Sony IP and they'd publish it by themselves anyway if it's real, so that dude wouldn't know right, RIGHT??
I'm going with "he doesn't know shit". The dream of Demon's Souls 2 lives!In my heart
Probably need to update the thread title or create a new one altogether considering this.
My understanding from the posts of Demonite and Verendus is that From and Sony could be working together on a game but it wouldn't be a simple Demon's Souls sequel. It would be a game in the "spirit" of Demon's Souls but not a straight sequel. It would be somewhat different or even a new IP.
I hope it happens, I want to see what the director of DS can do on next gen with a bigger budget.
Chill Penguin
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I'm surprised some people don't consider Dark Souls a continuation of Demon's Souls. They're extremely similar, but i find Dark Souls to be better in every single way, every aspect of the game was improved. With Dark Souls 2 coming out, people really still want a Demon's Souls 2? Seems like it would be slightly different just for the sake of it, and going backwards in many ways. Befuddling to me, to be honest.
sublimit
Banned
Yup i also think that a "spiritual succesor" type of game is the most possible scenario.
The level design isn't different because of the different name, it's different because the developer wanted to go that route. The lore might be to some extent, but plenty of franchises reinvent most of the world between games, and from what I understand DS2 is almost completely unconnected to DS1 as well. Anything you'd want from a Demon's Souls 2, outside of a direct story continuation, could just as easily be done in Dark Souls 2, or 3, 4, 5, which makes more sense from a business point point of view.
Prince Vultan
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It's been alleged several times that whatever it is From/Sony is supposedly working on was never going to be called Demon's Souls and was intended as a "spiritual" successor. At one point wasn't there some talk of it being some first person fantasy title in fact?
I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but now I kind of want it to because of how much it'll upset Kenshin001.
You must be new to keit4 posts.
I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but now I kind of want it to because of how much it'll upset Kenshin001.
You must be new to keit4 posts.
Kenshin001
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I've played both games. Lore? Haha. They changed a few names to avoid copyright infringement. I can't remember anyone's name except MiB. Such memorable characters as horned knight guy and the merchant person.
No hub and bonfires are the big differences. I think Demon's Souls 3 has a hub though. Aesthetic is the same, world design is kind of the same, combat is the same.
why would a demon's souls 2 preclude a dark souls 3?
edit: oh im almost a year late to that question.
sublimit
Banned
lol
And no i don't think the aesthetics and (especially) the world design of Dark Souls 2 are the same with those of Demon's Souls.
Yeah liked everybody is salivating on it just because its exclusive.
People want it cause its different enough from dark souls and there were cut content from it
I would love more Souls games, never said otherwise, but people is asking for a spiritual successor. Well, the spiritual successor already exists (same mechanics, same developer, same visuals), and it's called Dark Souls. And just FYI, Demon's Souls (a Sony and PS3 exclusive) is my game of the gen, so don't try to use the fanboy wildcard with me because it won't work. I'm not as involved as you in this console war.
I guess you are right. Dark Souls was much more successful so it would make more sense to just go on with the Dark Souls brand.
Still, I wonder if they will end up creating a similar design in one of their later games, one that will please the Demon's Souls fanatics among us.
In case you haven't watched these
And I find it funny how much you insist to decline any possibility of a sequal to Demon's Souls. Yeah, for a lot of us these are totally different games, with totally different approaches to design.
Kenshin001
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Whether it's called Demon's or Dark I think you would still have got changes across the sequels. Dark Souls 2 isn't even set in the same setting as Dark Souls.
That makes a lot more sense than a straight up Demon's Souls 2.
If they want to make more Souls games with the same formula, they're better off continuing with the Dark Souls brand. It should be a relatively safe investment for FROM and Bamco to make as many Dark Souls as they want right now, and they can get higher sales and than if they're working with Sony. If they're working on another first party exclusive it's likely something more risky and unproven.
If this is true, that something is in the works between them.
It sounds like Sony want's to potentially separate themselves from the 'Souls' moniker. Despite owning the original series, the now multiplat Dark Souls sort of supersedes the exclusive draw that Demon's Souls once commanded.
Triggerhappytel
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I think at this point it would be interesting to find out what Miyazaki is working on. It seems odd he would eschew Dark Souls II in order to work on something very similar with Sony, particularly as From co-own the Dark Souls brand with Bamco while Demon's Souls is Sony's.
sublimit
Banned
Really?you could have fooled me.You said:
As for the rest of your post..
And why exactly it's bothering you so much that people are asking for more spiritual succesor games?Does it also bother you when other companies than Capcom make more games similar to Monster Hunter and people who own both a 3DS and Vita enjoy more of the same?
Umm... you are the one who started it by making it into a "Sony exclusive" thing.That's classic fanboy material right there :
1. Who wouldn't? It's not like they only have one team each for dark fantasy and mecha games.
2. Would Namco let them? It doesn't quite work like that.
3. Of course they do.
Anyway, Mortimer is dropping the hint bombs as usual. Demon's Souls may not be a thing anymore, but Miyazaki is far too big a wave maker than to simply play an "advisory" role on a single project. That's all that needs to be said until they inevitably announce something.
My guess is he is on a next-gen project. Souls related? Probably seeing as it's From's premier series now. I guess it comes down to whether it's a partnership with Sony, or just From gearing up for a next-gen title two years from now.
dragonbane
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Spiritual successor. Of course it wouldn't be called Demon Souls after Dark Souls.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'll be blown away if there isn't another Demon's Souls game from Sony. Whether it'll actually be called Demon's Souls is another story.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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I would love to see a Demon's Souls 2. I loved Demon's Souls, it was my game of that generation hands down. I liked Dark Souls but, it didn't hook me like Demon's Souls did. I still think it was the Nexus that made the difference for me.
Hopefully not. I'm not really wanting to go back to Demon's Souls world. From certainly has a wonderful formula, but changing the setting will allow for new atmosphere, new aesthetic, and just open up some new elements in the series. The additions that Dark Souls brought really would feel a bit anachronistic being worked into the Demon's Souls world.
makingmusic476
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I'm sure most Demon's Souls fans bought Dark Souls and will be buying Dark Souls II. And they're probably excited about all these Demon's Souls II/spiritual successor rumors because it'd be the first confirmation of a Souls-like game designed to maximize next gen hardware.
But hey, continue to insult them for being excited about a franchise they like. Those jerks.
Wow. You are trying too hard.
Deal with it, Dark Souls is Demon's Souls 2. The only diference is the name because Demon's Souls is a Sony IP, but everything else is exactly (or almost) the same.
Sony can use the Demon's Souls IP and hire a new developer, but it won't be the same because FROM is not going to be involved in any way. Having "Demon's Souls" in the title doesn't make a Demon's Souls game. If Capcom develops games in the vein of Monster Hunter is only because they know how to do it.
DrROBschiz
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I honestly cant imagine SONY doing anything with the Demons Souls IP that doesn't involve contracting From Software to make the game
Pretty sure they have all of their resources into other things unless its what Miyasaki has been up to.
Highly doubt it though.
Pretty sure they have all of their resources into other things unless its what Miyasaki has been up to.
Highly doubt it though.
DrROBschiz
Member
Well if Sony wanted to do anything with the IP they bought they would have to have another team attempt to do something with it or pay (contract) From to do it.
Not sure but I think both of those are unlikely scenarios. Rumors have been suggesting otherwise forever at this point though so whatever.
SolidSnakeUS
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PS4 exclusive Demon's Souls 2 by the end of 2015 . Book it!
. Book it!Hopefully they are working on a Shadow Tower Abyss / Kings Field spiritual successor with 1st person combat up to the standards of Dark Souls. Could be a big success. Most first person games built around melee combat do a piss poor job especially the number one seller in the genre.
Whatever Miyazaki is doing, I'm sure all Souls fans will enjoy it. Me included ;D
nature boy
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For those who have never played Demons or Dark Souls (might get Dark Souls 1 for PC), what's the difference between the two?
Hmm, not sure if this is a good idea for them. A FPSRPG like Kings Field will be viewed as really going head to head with the Elder Scrolls and might get more critical backlash or consumer backlash. ZOMG NOT SKYRIM?!?!?!
I would say that Mizyaki (sp) just needs to do what he does and see what comes out.
Demon's Souls 2 would be great (just because its more Souls), but Id love to see what else he can come up with.
How about Mizyaki and Matsuno collaboration?!
And if anyone...ANYONE thinks Dark Souls is not really "Demon's Souls 2", then wow...just wow.
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