That will happen anyway outside of a handful of things.
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So the Xbox One launches today in Japan...
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That will happen anyway outside of a handful of things.
Zeuanimals
Member
Did it already launch in the other Tier 2 countries yet?
Nightengale
Member
MS only cares about those 'handful' anyway.
They're not going to lose sleep over Dragon Quest Heroes.
HNNNGH @ this prophet.
Maybe they should. Otherwise why should a fan of Japanese games buy their system when only a small few are on it? IDK, I thought it was odd they basically gave up at the drop of a hat after 2009.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Why would launching and getting their heads kicked in be better than not launching and not getting their heads kicked in?
Haha what? They should at any new popular Japanese game PS4 gets. MS consoles already don't have a real market there. And PS4's 2015 lineup ensures it's going to stay that way.
Sony is not going to lose sleep over Scalebound.
The only ones they will get is the ones big in the west. I fail to see what would change if they didn't launch in Japan. It's not like they trying with big exclusives this time either that wouldn't exist without them either.
Nightengale
Member
I think I'm being misinterpreted somewhat.
MS has the challenge where even if they have multiplatform games as well... As far as Japan is concerned, a large majority will buy the PS4 over XB1 for that game.
When FFXV and KH3 comes out in Japan, it's fair to assume 95% of all the new consoles bought for that game will be PS4.
So they're stuck between a rock and a hard place where unless the game is exclusive to their platform, Japan isn't going to care.
Let's assume MS got themselves Dragon Quest Heroes. The problem for them is that it will not be exclusive to them, and if it's not exclusive... Japan will buy the PS4 version and snub the XB1 version.
MS has the challenge where even if they have multiplatform games as well... As far as Japan is concerned, a large majority will buy the PS4 over XB1 for that game.
When FFXV and KH3 comes out in Japan, it's fair to assume 95% of all the new consoles bought for that game will be PS4.
So they're stuck between a rock and a hard place where unless the game is exclusive to their platform, Japan isn't going to care.
Let's assume MS got themselves Dragon Quest Heroes. The problem for them is that it will not be exclusive to them, and if it's not exclusive... Japan will buy the PS4 version and snub the XB1 version.
Nightengale
Member
The reason I used DQ as an example is because despite being a big IP, it has limited global appeal and thus have limited impact as a system seller outside Japan, which will allow MS to feel less threatened by it.
MS wasn't going to have any semblance of relevance in Japan in the first place, so not having DQ wouldn't matter to them. But if they were snubbed on a globally relevant Japanese IP like say... FF or KH, then MS would be scared.
Small Mailman
Member
Oh hey! My name is Nico 
simplythebest
Banned
Dang...Free fan for the heat and no one is taking it?
Now...were those t-shirts/fans being handed out by maids?
If yes...oh man, life is tough for MS in Japan.
It must be hard to be the XB PR team over there.
People on neogaf can be insensitive at times. Just Enjoy the system bro.
Yeah but FF or KH aren't in anyway affected by them releasing in Japan. In fact they will probably be PS exclusives in Japan. It is affected only by their presence in theWest and is it big enough to gardner enough sales for the port to be worth it.
Just regular dudes and chicks. Xbox PR done goofed. You never turn down maid freebies. Most of the stores I went in had minimal xbox one space (a shelf)
Nightengale
Member
When I said snubbed by FF and KH, I meant GLOBALLY.
I wouldn't put it pass Japanese publishers.
I wouldn't put it pass Japanese publishers.
burritosenior
Member
30 pages. Yikes. So. I wonder if it sold a dozen. Maybe even two dozen. I don't want to get too optimistic, though.
Playstation has such a huge presence there. And I've heard so little about this Japan launch. Admittedly, they're probably just advertising in... you know... Japan... but still.
Playstation has such a huge presence there. And I've heard so little about this Japan launch. Admittedly, they're probably just advertising in... you know... Japan... but still.
30 pages. Yikes. So. I wonder if it sold a dozen. Maybe even two dozen. I don't want to get too optimistic, though.
Playstation has such a huge presence there. And I've heard so little about this Japan launch. Admittedly, they're probably just advertising in... you know... Japan... but still.
Don't forget about online sales
OsirisBlack
Banned
I think the XB1 is just not appealing to the Japanese market. most of my FFXI and FXIV ls Buds who live in Japan think its design is hideous most of the comments are. "It is too big." or "looks like old tech." That might not matter much here in the States but it matters a lot over there. Also I get "It is weaker than the PS4 why should I get it?"
The power difference is very well publicized and they are generally very well informed. I am completely against buying exclusive games but the best bet MS has with the XB1 is to buy something exclusive that is very Japan centric and it has to be a huge property. Were talking Exclusive Final Fantasy XV big or else as has been said in this thread they will just buy the game on PS4.
Edited to correct my busted English.
Tsk tsk tsk...MS, maids=best PR in Japan. XB PR still haven't learn this huh?
I even gave them the benefit of the doubt that they were using maids.
I know what you mean but all I am saying is that launching doing disastrously in Japan or not launching at all will have an infinitesimal affect on the decision of whether KH or FF are launched on the Xbox One in the West.
SwiftDeath
Member
And yet even that was not enough to save the PS4 from flatlining in the country
Some Japanese-appealing games might help though
And yet even that was not enough to save the PS4 from flatlining in the country
Some Japanese-appealing games might help though
I remember that Playroom thread.
Those maids actually got me to order a PS Camera...
lol, so sad =(.
Consumerism was too strong during those idols streams.
Consumerism was too strong during those idols streams.
it's a formality at this point. people flipped shit that XB1 didn't launch in Sweden or Poland or whatever and the poor makers of BF4 and Witcher 3 wouldn't be able to play their games on XB1.
Nightengale
Member
Yeah, you're right on that point.
Well that wasn't expected at all. lol
I mean, considering last gen's performances and the fact that MS doesn't seem to be giving two shits about Japan this gen either, that was really a given.
lol
Blonde girl in the gif is Xbox fan in Japan.
I mean, considering last gen's performances and the fact that MS doesn't seem to be giving two shits about Japan this gen either, that was really a given.
lol
Blonde girl in the gif is Xbox fan in Japan.
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
Enjoy man!
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Maybe if it zoomed out a few thousand times further.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Seeing how otaku MS Japan are i think they know,they just don't waste money for it
But it will effect the small Japan developers,like BradC00 said,formality,even MS know they have no chance to win,they still at least have to join the match
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Well that wasn't expected at all. lol
I mean, considering last gen's performances and the fact that MS doesn't seem to be giving two shits about Japan this gen either, that was really a given.
lol
Blonde girl in the gif is Xbox fan in Japan.
Man, people gif everything these days huh? I mean what's going on there that was even worth capturing? People at some musical performance and she's into it? Damn...
as far as I know its not out in Portugal yet.
or is it? if it is I havent heard a peep. I stopped caring a long time ago anyway. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice etc (in my country that is, its a dead system/brand and I had to import everything from UK last gen)
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Why you in Xbox thread then
They should.
And Persona 5. And Disgaea 5. And the many more games they won't be getting over the next years as sales remain low (not only in Japan, but elsewhere), it's PS2-era all over again, where one system gets the majority of exclusives and as a result will continue to outsell the other systems exponentially, resulting in even more exclusives for said system.
That's a ripple effect you should never want.
Isn't it obvious.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Did the 24 hour livestream have any game announcements?
ResidentDante
Member
Was at a big Aeon mall in Kyoto earlier this week, went into a large random electronic store there and there was a fair bit of Xbox products actually, I thought it would be far less:
fastest finger
Member
Needs more green
Xbox One is launched today in Finland (and a few other European countries, don't remember which ones), haven't seen any news about it yet. I assume the launch won't be as bad as in Japan, but of course Xbone has no chance of outselling the PS4 here, not only because of the 10-month head start.
influentzar
Member
360 have more games that appeals to japanese, it's not that strange.
Who would resist Lightning dress-up game?
The weight of japanese games (excluding Nintendo) have over western gamers is severely diminished compared to PS2/GC/Xbox generation and before.
Having on board japanese dev isn't a priority now for MS because outside Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and a few others there isn't any big seller (in the western markets) and big sellers are all it matters now.
It's likely Japan will buy DQH for PS3 and snub the PS4 and to a bigger degree (the hypothetical)XB1 version).
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Did they really say that?
Nightengale
Member
I'm talking assumptions here between only two platforms (Ps4 and Xb1)
PS3 will clearly do better than the PS4 SKU, but it will still help sell the PS4 system, especially with a DQ special console bundle.
Obviously not. That was a joke statement by me.
Hellraider
Member
Wouldn't surprise me if they did alongside PS4.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Actually it's a ripple effect one would want if you're looking for Japanese developers to get off the sidelines, the longer it takes things to play out, the worse shape the Japanese games market would be in terms of current generation support.
At this point both small and big Japanese developers would feel more safe having one large pool of users to release their games on rather than continuing to release everything on last gen machines without a clear winner in this gen's race.
MS might not want that but as a gamer looking forward to playing Japanese games in a current gen system, the current gen race needs to play out quickly.
