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Melchiah · Oct 10, 2014

Sephiroth_GR_ said:
I wanted to start on casual on first playthrough and i hadn't noticed so far but apparently there is auto-aim on casual difficulty

Yikes... i'll avoid it like a plague

I think it sucks, that lowering the difficulty restarts the chapter from the beginning. If I get stuck in the end of the chapter, and have to lower the setting, I sure as hell don't want to replay it all the way through. Repetition ruins the atmosphere.

EDIT: And a lower level without auto-aim would be also preferable.

Novum_Veritas · Oct 10, 2014

Sn4ke_911 said:
Does twitch not give a fuck anymore? i can see two live streams on twitch.

No bannerino?

I think it will be soon reported, it just takes some time until they take down the streams.

Sephiroth_GR_ · Oct 10, 2014

Melchiah said:
I think it sucks, that lowering the difficulty restarts the chapter from the beginning. If I get stuck in the end of the chapter, and have to lower the setting, I sure as hell don't want to replay it all the way through. Repetition ruins the atmosphere.

Yeah that and auto-aim. I'm glad we can turn it off.

Sn4ke_911 · Oct 10, 2014

Novum_Veritas said:
I think it will be soon reported, it just takes some time until they take down the streams.

Hmm, they're normally pretty quick with taking them down.

Papercuts · Oct 10, 2014

Sn4ke_911 said:
Does twitch not give a fuck anymore? i can see two live streams on twitch.

No bannerino?

Bethesda ninjas napping.

ArjanN · Oct 10, 2014

-MD- said:
He liked it better. I'm not going to judge it until I've played it for myself but they obviously put some effort into it if they played around with the camera that much.

It's also pretty common for horror games anyway, the more zoomed out you are the more detached you feel from the character. A big part of why RE4 was still pretty tense is because it's easy for enemies to sneak up from behind/your sides.

It can suck for people who are sensitive to motion sickness though.

hemo memo · Oct 10, 2014

Sephiroth_GR_ said:
Which platform are you playing it?

Was it with a lot of enemies on screen?

PS4, no just random.

Sn4ke_911 · Oct 10, 2014

hemo memo said:
PS4, no just random.

How is the camera when you aim? do you think it's too much zoomed in? do you have problems with it especially in heated situations?

papercan55 · Oct 10, 2014

ArjanN said:
It's also pretty common for horror games anyway, the more zoomed out you are the more detached you feel from the character. A big part of why RE4 was still pretty tense is because it's easy for enemies to sneak up from behind/your sides.

It can suck for people who are sensitive to motion sickness though.

It's been a while since i played re4 but i'm pretty sure when you aim it wasn't just showing leons hands, the evil within seems to be taking inspiration from re6 with it's up close and personal camera bullshit, but taking it even further by cropping out the character altogether.
i'm sorry but mikami got it spot on with re4, why the hell did they feel the need mess around with it, especially at the last minute before release.
Maybe some gaffers on the last few pages are correct, they might have changed it to go after the fps crowd to make sure they turn a profit.

adamsapple · Oct 10, 2014

hemo memo said:
PS4, no just random.

Hmm... very surprising. PS3 impressions state the performance is solid.

This is IDTech, but its not megatextures, right ?

ArchAngel · Oct 10, 2014

My game is coming tomorrow. Yay, totally forgot about it

hemo memo · Oct 10, 2014

Sn4ke_911 said:
How is the camera when you aim? do you think it's too much zoomed in? do you have problems with it especially in heated situations?

A little bit, I'm very early in the game and playing stealthy so I don't know how its going to be later on.

Lucent · Oct 10, 2014

Why do people want people who are playing on Twitch banned?

T.O.P · Oct 10, 2014

Morue said:
So apparently there's no english voices in non-english speaking european countries. What the hell Bethesda? Are we back in the 80's? Had to cancel my french preorder and go to amazon UK instead...

Is this confirmed?

I'm gonna cancel my italian pre-order if true

I can't play with ITA dub, at all

Novum_Veritas · Oct 10, 2014

Lucent said:
Why do people want people who are playing on Twitch banned?

Because jealousy, it was a thing on justin.tv as well, and is even worse on Twitch.
DCMA is also another problem.

Sn4ke_911 · Oct 10, 2014

hemo memo said:
A little bit, I'm very early in the game and playing stealthy so I don't know how its going to be later on.

Thanks.

Lucent said:
Why do people want people who are playing on Twitch banned?

Nobody wants them to get banned but it's a twitch rule that you are not allowed to stream a game before the official release.

Sephiroth_GR_ · Oct 10, 2014

chandoog said:
Hmm... very surprising. PS3 impressions state the performance is solid.

This is IDTech, but its not megatextures, right ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_bl1kfaeg

If the xbox one version is of any indication, textures and lighting on PS4,XB1 will be totally fine, considering it's a cross-gen game.

Papercuts · Oct 10, 2014

papercan55 said:
It's been a while since i played re4 but i'm pretty sure when you aim it wasn't just showing leons hands, the evil within seems to be taking inspiration from re6 with it's up close and personal camera bullshit, but taking it even further by cropping out the character altogether.
i'm sorry but mikami got it spot on with re4, why the hell did they feel the need mess around with it, especially at the last minute before release.
Maybe some gaffers on the last few pages are correct, they might have changed it to go after the fps crowd to make sure they turn a profit.

Yeah, RE4 was more like the middle picture in that pic above where Leon was still in sight. The camera actually pulled back more as the game progressed to the point where you started to see Leon's entire body while moving around, but it changed depending on scene. I'm kinda curious if this will be similar or not.

RE6 actually patched in a wide range of FoV options after people complained.

Spider-Man · Oct 10, 2014

Novum_Veritas said:
Somewhere in this thread somebody said the load times are between 10-12 seconds on the PS4, and on PS3 15-20 seconds long, not sure though.

Yeah it definitely is much better, now the zoom in aiming is a problem, if enough people complain maybe they can patch in an option.

Novum_Veritas · Oct 10, 2014

Spider-Man said:
Yeah it definitely is much better, now the zoom in aiming is a problem, if enough people complain maybe they can patch in an option.

Well, would be nice if they would patch it back to E3 2014 status, looked better then what we have now, but we'll see.

JimmyRustler · Oct 10, 2014

T.O.P said:
Is this confirmed?

I'm gonna cancel my italian pre-order if true

I can't play with ITA dub, at all

Yes, confirmed.

adamsapple · Oct 10, 2014

Papercuts said:
RE6 actually patched in a wide range of FoV options after people complained.

That was a necessity .. the characters in RE6 took up half the damn screen when aiming.

Gears still has the best of this where you only see the corner of your player's head in the lower left when aiming. The more screen available for aiming, the better.

I-e I don't understand why people are complaining about the zoom when aiming, it's not that bad when you're already playing a game that adds black bars, you wanna see as much of the screen space as you can right ?

BumblebeeCody · Oct 10, 2014

Sn4ke_911 said:
Awful, at least they could have given us the option to change the camera.

Mikami pls.

You can tell gstaff in yesterday's live gameplay demo on twitch really had trouble with the camera, shit this could be a huge contra for the game.

Aside from the frame rate (at London EGX) I also felt the camera angle was pretty annoying at times.
Bethesda. I blame you for everything.

Morue · Oct 10, 2014

TheExorzist said:
Yes, confirmed.

Someone needs to tell Bethesda that non-native english speaking Europeans are not peasants who don't understand Shakespeare's language... I can't believe we still have something like that in 2014...

TheKingOfPain · Oct 10, 2014

TheExorzist said:
I can confirm it's true. Just called my game shop and they said that there is no English VO in the German/Austrian version. Unforunately they already sent it.

What. a. fucking. bullshit.

It's like we're back in the 90s. Shit makes my blood boil.

Yeah, Bethesda does it every fucking single time. I had to play Dishonored with that terrible italian VA, still have nightmares about it.
Luckily, I had a hunch so I pre-ordered TEW on Amazon.co.uk.

hemo memo · Oct 10, 2014

chandoog said:
Hmm... very surprising. PS3 impressions state the performance is solid.

This is IDTech, but its not megatextures, right ?

Rare drops and didn't affect the gameplay. solid most of the time but its something needs to be mention.

But again I'm very early in the game.

Papercuts · Oct 10, 2014

chandoog said:
That was a necessity .. the characters in RE6 took up half the damn screen when aiming.

Gears still has the best of this where you only see the corner of your player's head in the lower left when aiming. The more screen available for aiming, the better.

I-e I don't understand why people are complaining about the zoom when aiming, it's not that bad when you're already playing a game that adds black bars, you wanna see as much of the screen space as you can right ?

It might just seem offputting in shots. We'll just have to experience it for ourselves.

Cyborg · Oct 10, 2014

Morue said:
So apparently there's no english voices in non-english speaking european countries. What the hell Bethesda? Are we back in the 80's? Had to cancel my french preorder and go to amazon UK instead...

What? So I'm in the Netherlands and wont be able to play it in English?
WTF?

SkylineRKR · Oct 10, 2014

Cyborg said:
What? So I'm in the Netherlands and wont be able to play it in English?
WTF?

I doubt this. All Bethesda games were in English over here.

Vinterbird · Oct 10, 2014

Cyborg said:
What? So I'm in the Netherlands and wont be able to play it in English?
WTF?

It's probably only going to be the major languages such as German, French and so on.

T.O.P · Oct 10, 2014

TheExorzist said:
Yes, confirmed.

This is gonna piss a lot of people off

Gonna head to GS later to cancel my pre-order, i'll get it on Amazon uk :/

JimmyRustler · Oct 10, 2014

Morue said:
Someone needs to tell Bethesda that non-native english speaking Europeans are not peasants who don't understand Shakespeare's language... I can't believe we still have something like that in 2014...

Oh, I think they perfectly know. My guess is that they do this in hope that the people double dip. Finish the local version and then buy the UK-Verion with the superior VO.
Well, fuck you Bethesda.

Bl@de · Oct 10, 2014

Well yesterday I was sad about not having the manual and the physical copy. Today I am happy because Steam has every language on board^^ What a quick turnaround. Because I simply can't stand german localizations ... text okay (was very well executed in RE4) but no voiceover please *cringe*

Magic Mushroom · Oct 10, 2014

Cyborg said:
What? So I'm in the Netherlands and wont be able to play it in English?
WTF?

You'll be fine.

Xpliskin · Oct 10, 2014

Seems spoiler-safe enough for a drive-by.

What's wrong with
"ICH BIN SEBASTIANOS CASTELANOS.
DONDE ESTA RUVIK ?
QUEL CONNARD CE DOCTEUR!"

Btw I wouldn't take one shop's word as "confirmed".

It's always been that you can change a game's language by changing your machine's language or at startup.

flipswitch · Oct 10, 2014

When are the reviews supposed to hit?

Lerozz · Oct 10, 2014

Xpliskin said:
Btw I wouldn't take one shop's word as "confirmed".

It's always been that you can change a game's language by changing your machine's language or at startup.

If you look back at other Bethesda releases, it seems to be quite usual for them.

I'm still on the fence. Might give it a go with my country's lingo.

flipswitch said:
When are the reviews supposed to hit?

14th.

Sephiroth_GR_ · Oct 10, 2014

SlasherJPC said:
Embargo is at 12:01 EST am Oct 14th, I can confirm.

Maybe this should be added in OP with capital letters so people won't have to ask every 2 pages...

Xpliskin · Oct 10, 2014

Lireu77 said:
If you look back at other Bethesda releases, it seems to be quite usual for them.

So you mean german people who bought skyrim day 1 weren't able to switch the voiceseven with these tricks ?

Euro games ship with 5 languages, it's been a standard for years.

This really would surprise me. There's no benefit to separate skus by language, unless it's on PSN.

Lerozz · Oct 10, 2014

Xpliskin said:
So you mean german people who bought skyrim day 1 weren't able to switch the voiceseven with these tricks ?

Euro games ship with 5 languages, it's been a standard for years.

This really would surprise me. There's no benefit to separate skus by language, unless it's on PSN.

I played Dishonored from a work colleague. It was the german version and it had, let me think, german, french, spanish and italian. Weird as that may be.

I also had a look at ogdb.eu, a german database for games with infos like languages included on the discs and, well, that seems to be business as usual with Bethesda.

Some examples:

http://ogdb.eu/index.php?section=game&gameid=61956

http://ogdb.eu/index.php?section=game&gameid=51118

http://ogdb.eu/index.php?section=game&gameid=70853

JimmyRustler · Oct 10, 2014

Xpliskin said:
Seems spoiler-safe enough for a drive-by.

What's wrong with
"ICH BIN SEBASTIANOS CASTELANOS.
DONDE ESTA RUVIK ?
QUEL CONNARD CE DOCTEUR!"

Btw I wouldn't take one shop's word as "confirmed".

It's always been that you can change a game's language by changing your machine's language or at startup.

My shop tested the German version after I called them, so it's pretty safe to say it's true.

Alkastelca · Oct 10, 2014

So that guy (Abyss) completed the game. Took him almost 16 hours and 47 deaths.

Looks like there are no extra unlockable modes or outfits.... However there are unlockable weapons.

He unlocked

machine gun and rocket launcher and got some extra skill points.

You also unlock model viewer for characters, enemies, weapons.

Unlockables/rewards screens (SPOILERS MAYBE ?):

http://i.imgur.com/WzURkZ4.png

http://i.imgur.com/nPtAFqz.png

http://i.imgur.com/YD2UhPh.png

http://i.imgur.com/iIonzAG.png

http://i.imgur.com/cFpBfF2.png

http://i.imgur.com/pmWoq48.png

It's kind of disappointing. Maybe you unlock more on higher difficulty ?

-MD- · Oct 10, 2014

Alkastelca said:
So that guy (Abyss) completed the game. Took him almost 16 hours and 47 deaths..

He unlocked machine gun and rocket launcher and got some extra skill points. You also unlock model viewer.

Alkastelca said:
No spoilers

C'mon man, really?

Alkastelca · Oct 10, 2014

-MD- said:
C'mon man, really?

You consider this a spoiler ? Really ?

Well I fixed my post but come on....

Sweep14 · Oct 10, 2014

Yes !

https://twitter.com/Sweep1414/status/520531462035341312

SoundLad · Oct 10, 2014

If anyone would like to take a shot at modifying my avatar that would be much appreciated

SargerusBR · Oct 10, 2014

Sweep14 said:
Yes !

https://twitter.com/Sweep1414/status/520531462035341312

Jingo · Oct 10, 2014

The game will have new modes and weapons, its called payed dlcs!

-MD- · Oct 10, 2014

SargerusBR said:

The downside to saving money.

Sephiroth_GR_ · Oct 10, 2014

Alkastelca said:
So that guy (Abyss) completed the game. Took him almost 16 hours and 47 deaths.

Looks like there are no extra unlockable modes or outfits.... However there are unlockable weapons.

He unlocked

machine gun and rocket launcher and got some extra skill points.

You also unlock model viewer for characters, enemies, weapons.

No or minor spoilers just unlockables/rewards screens:

It's kind of disappointing. Maybe you unlock more on higher difficulty ?

I hope that's not the final boss in the background...

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