That died and the studio is only on Deus Ex now. Japanese-Western relations are hard even within the same company.
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Square Enix shows WITCH CHAPTER 0 [cry] Luminous Engine demo [DX12, 4 Titan, Screens]
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That died and the studio is only on Deus Ex now. Japanese-Western relations are hard even within the same company.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Alright thanks. I always thought of Visual Works as the spiritual-successor of Square Pictures so I'm glad you corrected to me
Agni's Philosophy (Luminous Engine) looks really good; I'm hoping the next Final Fantasy has visuals or a setting that resembles to what was shown in this, and the previous trailer.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah.. Well.
Okay. Sure, looks great. For what it's worth at this point in time.
Okay. Sure, looks great. For what it's worth at this point in time.
This is exactly what I was thinking when the dude started talking about the hair. It's not happening.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I thought something seemed off with the SSS in the skin when he zoomed into the forehead. Looked a bit like clay (maybe a shader for makeup?).
What, I basically stalk Verendus' post history on a regular basis and I never heard of the male lead thing in regards to the medieval FFXVI he talked about a few times. Got a link?^^
I'm certainly not clever about this stuff but I'd guess it has got something to do with DX12's ability to better utilize multiple CPU cores, plus there's that asynchronous shaders magic, as well.
Practical shmactical, I don't care, it's awesome.
*sigh*
The 8k texture part is simply a lie. There's a somewhat better point to be made about the polygon count, though when it's something purely GPU-bound like hair I don't know how much DX12 really contributes.
New IP directed by Ito, then?
Seriously, I had goosebumps throughout the demo. It was fucking awesome. I really hope they turn this into a game.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Well, it doesn't help that the full title for AP is "Agni's Philosophy: Final Fantasy Realtime Tech Demo". Even if it doesn't become a real game, it's stil explicitly branded as Final Fantasy and not original "franchise".
Vital Tundra
Member
Never
Stone Ocean
Member
The only person that can crush my dreams is Hashimoto
While there is a Project 2 listed on their site, I think that's part of the "Deus Ex Universe" of interconnected games.
They do have support teams that help out their f2p titles, and some staff that work on the Shinra project, but I'm not sure they actually have another IP in house anymore.
Vital Tundra
Member
Why does this crying face look 10x more realistic in real time than Serah's ugly crying face in FF13-2 in CGI, done by visual works on a set up probably 10 to 12 times more powerful than this?
(or something like that, i don't know how strong SE's render farm CGI computers are)
(or something like that, i don't know how strong SE's render farm CGI computers are)
You didn't like the PS Experience presentation? Soak in it forever.
I didn't find the concept for Agni particularly interesting or fascinating.
Maybe bad motion capture or if not motion capture the animators did a bad estimation of what a decent crying face would look like. But yeah, the crying Serah CG was terrible.
Oh, of course. Agni's philosophy (the earlier demo) already runs on a ps4 and it is an interesting demo. But you can't make a game that will look like it as of now. Likewise, even in the future once this demo could run on a single mid range gpu, you'd never have the processing budget to splurge on a single character.
Using a system with 4 Titan X gpus certainly allows one to test dx12 and the requisite draw calls, but it also puts it in the same category as something like Star Swarm. But I'd be damned if I didn't say that an FF game based on this concept is utterly intriguing.
I wonder if Square Enix will ever make another original IP AAA game again. Lol.
Relaxed Muscle
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I hope we get a XIII trilogy remake, where finally SE can fully show the wide display of Lightning emotions.
Deus Ex
Hitman
Tomb Raider
Final Fantasy
Kingdom Hearts
Dragon Quest
over and over and over, spun off endlessly.
Are you talking about FF Fortress which they wanted Eidos to handle after Grin's bankruptcy, or another one? If former, then there's still a chance that they're working on another one based on Agni
SE confirmed that Fortress was cancelled in 2011 and in 2013 SE stated in an interview again that there could someday be an Eidos-developed FF.
www.gamespot.com/articles/eidos-dev...-says-lighting-returns-director/1100-6415818/
Sorry I don't, it was from before the PS4 launched iirc.
A quick search did find this though in regards to FFXVI from him:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62950021&postcount=1215
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ZombieFred
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sensui-tomo
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Dont Mana mobile games count too? and the occasional throw them a bone Drakengard/cavia team made game.
They had a new IP that was fairly heavily rumored to once upon a time be the Final Fantasy title that was hinted at in that interview, but the new IP got canned.Are you talking about FF Fortress which they wanted Eidos to handle after Grin's bankruptcy, or another one? If former, then there's still a chance that they're working on another one based on Agni
SE confirmed that Fortress was cancelled in 2011 and in 2013 SE stated in an interview again that there could someday be a Eidos-developed FF.
www.gamespot.com/articles/eidos-dev...-says-lighting-returns-director/1100-6415818/
It's a shame this was cancelled.
Endless
Member
Slightly better quality video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_l19eFqRQ
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Square Enix's publication segment will take over and deliver new IP's!
*crickets*
*crickets*
At least we got Fullmetal Alchemist from it
Relaxed Muscle
Member
That's probably never, ever, happening again.
Drakengard 3 was basically the last pet project by Wada.
Its true, but that's how SE has always worked. They've always used their visual works CGI's skills per se to learn how to model their characters in game, once they were at a fidelity in the PS2 era to actually render characters with approximate fidelity. That's how FFX got motion capture, how FF13 got well choreographed cutscenes, and how FF15 has high end models even on console that look like this
Yeah, its only in limited situations for the above, but the modeling is directly taking the high end rendering approach and applying it to a lower scale.
Ohh, nice. Thanks! Didn't remember that one. Can't wait to see it (E3, if FFXV comes out before June, or TGS next year, I guess).
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Alright thanks. I always thought of Visual Works as the spiritual-successor of Square Pictures so I'm glad you corrected to me
At least two CG artists worked on both The Spirits Within and FFIX, but I think it was as part of "Square USA", not Square Pictures itself.
Behrooz Roozbeh: http://www.rooz3d.com/final-fantasy/
Jake Rowell: http://www.jakerowell.com/index_flash.html
The director is already working on his next game, not sure if with SE.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/09/drakengard-creator-taro-yoko-working-new-game-shh-dont-tell/
We will as soon as they do. "Witch: Chapter 0"? Someone is egging it on here, but they're not in this thread.
Well, I am. Agni's Philosophy is still the most interesting thing the Japanese part of S-E has done in the past few years from my PoV
The sad thing is, I agree.
Woah, okay. Never heard of that. Were do you know from? Kagari implied this, too, a few days ago when I talked about a new Eidos-developed FF. I suppose from an insider, no?
EDIT: Okay, found an article about it: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/unannounced-eidos-montreal-game-cancelled-report/1100-6415883/
Demon Lizardman
Banned
She reminds me of the sorceress from FF8. Anyway, I hope to see this kind of visual fidelity in games on the late PS5 or PS6
Yup, and in addition to that, they mainly worked on the pre-rendered backgrounds, not the CG FMV. Since Parasite Eve and Final Fantasy IX were co-developed at Square USA, many of those game assets were created there. I believe the game movies themselves were all produced in Japan - which was what would eventually become the Visual Works department.
Sanctuary
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New graphical engines are great and all, but it's time to go back to actually putting gameplay before graphics, and only using graphics to enhance what's already there. And no, I'm not talking about "indie" stuff here.
This is something that's been missing too often over the past decade, and SE is one of the biggest offenders lately.
This is something that's been missing too often over the past decade, and SE is one of the biggest offenders lately.