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Roy (our boy) & Ryu confirmed for Smash Bros
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Masked Man
I said wow
WonderRade
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Actually this is why we need more subspace emissary stuff. I need silly cutscenes of ryu interacting with pikachu and peach.
Thats like the best induction to nintendo town
Thats like the best induction to nintendo town
I pretty much agree with this too.
Something else bothering me is that one of the things I love about Smash Bros. is that it reinterprets characters not in fighting games into often times really interesting and fun movesets and playstyles, whereas Ryu will almost certainly have moves that started off as fighting attacks in the first place. It's just not as interesting to me.
I don't dislike Ryu or his inclusion it just leaves me a little cold.
Man, imagine the hype if in the direct Sakurai went
"You can downland Lucas.......AND Roy........AND Ryu RIGHT NOW!"
The internet would have exploded without these leaks
Also LOL at the mental gymnastics people are trying to pull to say Ryu isn't THE iconic fighting game character LOL
Nobody cares if you grew up with Tekken, that doesn't diminish the importance of Ryu to the history of fighting games. The guys IS Mr. Fighting Games
"You can downland Lucas.......AND Roy........AND Ryu RIGHT NOW!"
The internet would have exploded without these leaks
Also LOL at the mental gymnastics people are trying to pull to say Ryu isn't THE iconic fighting game character LOL
Nobody cares if you grew up with Tekken, that doesn't diminish the importance of Ryu to the history of fighting games. The guys IS Mr. Fighting Games
No it isn't.
Street fighter for a good long while didn't exist for a lot of people, they do not have the respect for the character you do. It makes sense some younger folk don't particularly care about this characters. Epically those like me who grew up during a period where namco fighters, mortal kombat, and smash brothers ruled the day.
It wasn't a thing in their lives, and they kind of don't care now.
And new kids will grow up with the street fighters and they will care.
isn't really that complicated.
As far as your halo example is concerned, if halo gets so irrelevant it basically stops existing for over decade. I'm sure a bunch of kids wont know or care about chief too. Thats just life kids grow up with different things and don't care about things.
Pray for a CG trailer on Sunday
Beren the Empty-Handed
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Out_Of_Ammo
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KelpNugatCrunch
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Well it's a two way street. There is that aspect of promotion but it's also about including a character they know is going to get people even more hyped for sm4sh. I know a bunch of people who are gonna wanna play sm4sh more now that Ryu's in.
SF is loved by a huge number of people and Capcom enjoys good business relations with Nintendo. Ultimately putting Ryu in benefits both of them imo
Muchi Muchi Pink
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I'm sure the Ryu leak happened a bit before or right after the ballot. I doubt he was considered after the ballot.
Actually, that's entirely possible. Remember how Brawl's website also allowed fans to send in their suggestions? Remember how Brawl came out at around the same time as vanilla Street Fighter IV, which revived interest in a dormant franchise through nostalgia and wasn't yet run into the ground through expansions? Ryu may have been chosen before the ballot based on fan input from 2007.
WrenchNinja
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I don't know. We'll have to wait and see how he is.
Okay that's neat and all but just because you grew up on a ps1 doesnt invalidate Street Fighter's influence. The fighting genre wouldn't exist as it is without Street Fighter. And while not the most popular fighting game at EVO currently, SFIV still brings in the views.
Blackquill
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Hope there is a pack for 3 or 4 characters, because 20 for 4 characters start to become way too much.
Spotty Ren
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Our boy is back. WITH TEH PHIR3!
Let's face it, we will still be a bit excited when they get "revealed".
Let's face it, we will still be a bit excited when they get "revealed".
Seven Force
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I want the actual stage, not just the music
Yeah, Fountain of Dreams in HD would have been fucking magical.
The dream is dead
ShadowFox08
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Or we could have Ultimate SF IV announced for Wii U and 3DS later next week...
True. Ballot isn't even over till much later.
peanutbutterlatte
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You say that but the viable list of characters (viable not including King K. Rool) shrinks with every successive iteration of SSB. With only a few new candidates like Inkling being created in between.
No one said it invalided street fighter's existence.
My whole point that there is precedent for people to just not care. Which explains a lot of people disinterest with ryu in general. I never even said their disinterest was correct. I never gave an opinion on the matter.
this applies to many things.
WonderRade
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It'll be great im sure, but it'll be more on the serious and epic side for someone like Ryu. I want silliness. Epic silliness
Like this
You can't compare the mascot of Capcom as a whole and the face of an entire genre to Bayonetta - a two-game 'series' met with tepid reactions and abysmal sales. If Capcom's second representative were something like Amaterasu or Viewtiful Joe, I'd agree, but as it is there's no precedent for unpopular, obscure or niche third-party characters. Nintendo has its own dead franchises to neglect, there's no point picking up those of other publishers.
Considering the massive amounts of sales, crossovers and notability that anything with Ryu in the helm had, I'm going to have to ask for a huge source on your statement cause it sounds like a hot streak of make believe. The franchise's dormancy for half a decade didn't deter from it's legacy.
Mega Man is "dead" but people still made it a big deal. Sonic has been "dead" in terms of quality but the character still had a huge pull. Ryu is similarly a big deal around the world, and he actually has relevance.
Guess that confirms that Dream Land 64 is coming to Wii U since 3DS only has two songs
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oh yes
Ah, yes indeed!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
No joke: I'm actually considering playing the game seriously now and making him my main, assuming he translates to Smash well and isn't flat-out garbage. Was already considering to go competitive with Mario; might as well pick up the original shoto instead of the Nintendo derivative.
Ryu truly is my favorite Street Fighter character, for a few different reasons:
1) He's all substance, no style. I find his "blandness" to be a strength.
2) He always gets top-tier theme songs: 1 2 3
3) In traditional fighting games, he offers a complete experience all by himself and needs no one else to compliment him. I defer to Maj's excellent article on the Ryu vs. Ryu match-up to explain:
Maj said:
Proving this theory in the modern era: Umehara vs Valle in SF4. This would probably be on a list of top overall matches over the course of SF4's competitive life.
Of course, Ryu doesn't translate so well to every game. He's not a great Marvel vs. Capcom character because he tends not to embody the gameplay fundamentals of that series in the same manner as he does in Street Fighter, so who knows how he'll shape up in Smash. It's hard for me to not be enthusiastic about it, though. After all, Mario and Luigi aped his specials in the first Smash Bros. game to begin with.
Bonus: best combo video ever
Meanwhile, here's to hoping that Roy is differentiated enough from Marth and Lucina to not feel like a waste.
*gag*
ShadowFox08
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Muchi Muchi Pink
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Even more funny on ps1, there are Street Fighter games. Even PS2. Actually during that time Street Fighter was well represented with a lot of games. It went on a hiatus after 2002.
Oh, that bullshit again.
And that's not even the price considering potential stages and more costumes. It's getting kind of absurd. And we know there will be more. I wanted DLC for the game but now I kinda fear it.
WonderRade
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I think thats arguable, (while very subjective), I think an Isaac or a DK rep is FAR more deserving than Ryu. Which is completely aside from Ryu's questionable current Resume.
Essentially it boils down to any new Nintendo character inclusion should be first priority IMO.
Not against ryu but id like to see more litte macs, bowser jrs, robins and shulks
Where do I find footage of this insane high-level Alpha 3 gameplay?
Fuck you Sakurai, why don't you make something good for once?
I want to see bombchu alley girl
If the third parties are getting second slots, in my view the second Namco slot is almost certain to be from Tekken, probably Jin as the 'primary character'. (Haruka kaka notwithstanding)
The second Sega slot should be Akira (VF) if we're rounding up the fighter angle, but who knows.
Sylverstone14
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Waking up to this is almost like Christmas.
So many leaks this week.
So many leaks this week.
I think there's plenty of Nintendo characters they can add but adding Ryu into a fighting game with Mario, Pacman, Megaman and Sonic just seems right.
Sucks, but after Mewtwo not too surprising that they'll all follow the same format.
Jonneh3003
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Can't wait for Ryu's reveal trailer, hopefully this leads to Nintendo VS Capcom!
Haha yea, they can't be seriously charging for our boy. I wouldn't expect to be charged to see my brother - I mean come on here
ROY - YOU'RE OUR MOTHER FUCKING BOY, MAN
*tears*
MK, Smash, And namco fighters doing well whilst street fighter didn't exist... is something everyone knows.... like everyone. This conversation comes up about how street fighter was dead and no one liked 3rd strile every 2 weeks in the FGW thread.
Street fighter was dead in the water for a little while, other fighting games ruled the day.
this happened
There are people who grew up on those and care about them more, or didn't grow up on fighting games at all, an don't care about ryu. BooHoo
KelpNugatCrunch
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I agree with this. Golden Sun and TLA are some of my favorite RPGs of all time. Would have loved to see those games get some love. King K Rool would have also been nice, especially since Retro brought DK back into relevance with two oustanding titles
If they reveal a Retro developed DK 3 with the Kremlings back, it'll just make me want King K Rool in sm4sh even more.
Maintenance
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Another Marth clone, yay. But at least Ryu is coming, so that's good.
That would be incredible and actually make more sense than SFV being on Wii U
Sigismundo
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