oh yes
Precisely. Like its not that I dont like Ryu or anything, it just feels so random.
Imagine for a moment that there were no more DLC characters after roy and ryu besides say one Ballot character. Wouldnt that feel a little strange? 3 cut vets and Ryu?
Not really.
Fighting games stopped being centered around street fighter a long ass time ago. Hell there are people like me who grew up on tekken, because our child hood started in the late 90's early 200's. Street fighter for a lot of people isn't a thing. So they don't have the respect some others would give ryu
No it isn't.That's kind of like saying Master Chief isn't one of the most recognizable FPS icons because FPS games are at an all time high and Call of Duty visibly sells more.
It doesn't really matter that there are people who don't like Street Fighter. Saying that Ryu isn't the most recognizable fighting game character is delusional.
Actually this is why we need more subspace emissary stuff. I need silly cutscenes of ryu interacting with pikachu and peach.
Thats like the best induction to nintendo town
oh yes
So once again smash will have a playable character promoting an upcoming playstation exclusive.
The fans voted for him, that's democracy for you !
OMG MELEE FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS MUSIC!!!!!
The fans voted for him, that's democracy for you !
I don't know. We'll have to wait and see how he is.I guess that's the reason he seems tired to a lot of us. Like, yeah, he's there and that's some quaint posterity and shit, but how many GAFfers will main him?
Okay that's neat and all but just because you grew up on a ps1 doesnt invalidate Street Fighter's influence. The fighting genre wouldn't exist as it is without Street Fighter. And while not the most popular fighting game at EVO currently, SFIV still brings in the views.Not really.
Fighting games stopped being centered around street fighter a long ass time ago. Hell there are people like me who grew up on tekken, because our child hood started in the late 90's early 200's. Street fighter for a lot of people isn't a thing. So they don't have the respect some others would give ryu
I want the actual stage, not just the music
So once again smash will have a playable character promoting an upcoming playstation exclusive.
I'm sure the Ryu leak happened a bit before or right after the ballot. I doubt he was considered after the ballot.
Well my grumble about Ryu is that it's another third party character when there's countless first party characters that have been neglected.
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Okay that's neat and all but just because you grew up on a ps1 doesnt invalidate Street Fighter's influence. The fighting genre wouldn't exist as it is without Street Fighter. And while not the most popular fighting game at EVO currently, SFIV still brings in the views.
Pray for a CG trailer on Sunday
We have now two Capcom reps, no excuse anymore why Bayonetta can't in as well.
No it isn't.
Street fighter for a good long while didn't exist for a lot of people, they do not have the respect for the character you do. It makes sense some younger folk don't particularly care about this characters. Epically those like me who grew up during a period where namco fighters, mortal kombat, and smash brothers ruled the day.
It wasn't a thing in their lives, and they kind of don't care now.
And new kids will grow up with the street fighters and they will care.
isn't really that complicated.
As far as your halo example is concerned, if halo gets so irrelevant it basically stops existing for over decade. I'm sure a bunch of kids wont know or care about chief too. Thats just life kids grow up with different things and don't care about things.
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source: Ryu and Roy Leaked?
oh yes
I guess that's the reason he seems tired to a lot of us. Like, yeah, he's there and that's some quaint posterity and shit, but how many GAFfers will main him?
Maj said:The Magic of Ryu vs. Ryu
Mirror matches tend to be problematic in fighting games, because both players have the same exact general objective, often without sufficient versatility to properly impede that objective. Either they devolve into complete turtlefests (ST Guile vs Guile), mindless rushdown (ST Vega vs Vega), or blind guessing (ST Honda vs Honda).
Somehow Ryu vs Ryu is always exempt. It’s always a good matchup, even in games which are competitively subpar otherwise. By contrast, most characters only get worthwhile mirror matches in one or two games, e.g., CvS2 Guile, 3S Chun Li, and SFA2 Akuma.
On a fundamental design level, Ryu is arguably the most fleshed out character in Street Fighter. He has answers for everything, but executing them requires planning and risk. While there are dominant areas in Ryu’s arsenal, he has almost nothing that would be considered “free.” For instance, there are countless situations where Guile can safely throw Sonic Booms, whereas one careless Hadoken is all it takes for Ryu to lose the match. Even his famous fireball traps are only guaranteed for two or three reps at maximum; the rest are mindgames.
Since Ryu has a direct answer for every telegraphed angle of attack, everything in this mirror match has to be earned the hard way. There are no shortcuts, and establishing the upper hand in the ground game is worth a lot. All of the wonderful fundamental nuances of zoning and footsies take center stage here.
Ryu vs Ryu is an awesome learning tool. Even minor mistakes committed during the course of a round become immediately evident, because there are no instant comeback shenanigans to mask them. Of course, the term “minor” is absolutely relative. There’s nothing like the shock of getting demolished by a seasoned veteran for errors you never bothered correcting because you never thought they were punishable. That’s the beauty of the matchup: it’ll go as deep as you want to take it.
Even Street Fighter versions which have gotten completely out of hand in terms of tournament level complexity still contain a thoroughly satisfying Ryu vs Ryu minigame. For example, Street Fighter Alpha 3 has grown so insanely technical that nobody outside of a few dozen dedicated players knows how to approach it anymore. Recent match videos are virtually unrecognizable compared to the finals of every major American tournament ever held for the game. Yet A-Ryu vs A-Ryu remains untouchable as a pick-up-and-play matchup and holds up perfectly at the highest levels too.
In fact, a couple years back there was an invitational exhibition between SFA3 top players Masumi (V-Sakura/Charlie/Ryu) and Daigo (V-Ryu). They played a total of 40 matches, sticking to their serious V-Ism characters through 30 of them. But for the remaining 10 matches, they played A-Ryu vs A-Ryu straight up. If that’s not legit, i don’t know what is.
The coolest thing about the Ryu/Ryu matchup is there’s always something constructive you can do, no matter how badly you’re losing (or winning). Shoto matches play out differently every single time, and everyone you face will have a different Ryu to show you.
Well the SNES version of SFII was easily the most popular. It's the one everyone remembers playing and I would even go so far as to call it the definitive version of that game.
I don't know. We'll have to wait and see how he is.
Okay that's neat and all but just because you grew up on a ps1 doesnt invalidate Street Fighter's influence. The fighting genre wouldn't exist as it is without Street Fighter. And while not the most popular fighting game at EVO currently, SFIV still brings in the views.
Oh, that bullshit again.I'd agree, but as it is there's no precedent for unpopular, obscure or niche third-party characters.
Hope there is a pack for 3 or 4 characters, because 20 for 4 characters start to become way too much.
You say that but the viable list of characters (viable not including King K. Rool) shrinks with every successive iteration of SSB. With only a few new candidates like Inkling being created in between.
Where do I find footage of this insane high-level Alpha 3 gameplay?No joke: I'm actually considering playing the game seriously now and making him my main, assuming he translates to Smash well and isn't flat-out garbage. Was already considering to go competitive with Mario; might as well pick up the original shoto instead of the Nintendo derivative.
Fuck you Sakurai, why don't you make something good for once?Just saw that now.. I'm pissed. ._.
I want to see bombchu alley girlI think thats arguable, (while very subjective), I think an Isaac or a DK rep is FAR more deserving than Ryu. Which is completely aside from Ryu's questionable current Resume.
Essentially it boils down to any new Nintendo character inclusion should be first priority IMO.
Not against ryu but id like to see more litte macs, bowser jrs, robins and shulks
Not really.
Fighting games stopped being centered around street fighter a long ass time ago. Hell there are people like me who grew up on tekken, because our child hood started in the late 90's early 200's. Street fighter for a lot of people isn't a thing. So they don't have the respect some others would give ryu
You say that but the viable list of characters (viable not including King K. Rool) shrinks with every successive iteration of SSB. With only a few new candidates like Inkling being created in between.
Just saw that now.. I'm pissed. ._.
So are we thinking that Roy is coming bundled with Ryu for free or is he going to be available for download separately for free?
I mean, they're not going to charge for Roy, right?
Right?????
MK, Smash, And namco fighters doing well whilst street fighter didn't exist... is something everyone knows.... like everyone. This conversation comes up about how street fighter was dead and no one liked 3rd strile every 2 weeks in the FGW thread.Considering the massive amounts of sales, crossovers and notability that anything with Ryu in the helm had, I'm going to have to ask for a huge source on your statement cause it sounds like a hot streak of make believe. The franchise's dormancy for half a decade didn't deter from it's legacy.
Street fighter was dead in the water for a little while, other fighting games ruled the day.Mega Man is "dead" but people still made it a big deal. Sonic has been "dead" in terms of quality but the character still had a huge pull. Ryu is similarly a big deal around the world, and he actually has relevance.
I think thats arguable, (while very subjective), I think an Isaac or a DK rep is FAR more deserving than Ryu. Which is completely aside from Ryu's questionable current Resume.
Essentially it boils down to any new Nintendo character inclusion should be first priority IMO.
Not against ryu but id like to see more litte macs, bowser jrs, robins and shulks
Can't wait for Ryu's reveal trailer, hopefully this leads to Nintendo VS Capcom!