LegendofDragoonLives
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lol at 20m first year shipment.
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Digitimes: Supply chain players gear up for new Nintendo console
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New Wii U (gamepad eXed)
DoctorFling
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I don't know if it was mentioned, but the guy with the Diddy Kong Racing 2 rumour/theory claims that it's been moved to NX. Launch title? Would fill the Mario Kart gap.
Fits the rumor from few days ago that Nintendo plans to set the NX launch price to $149. At that price point, 20 million is probably doable.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Establish the handheld form first, get some titles out there, get the thing selling, then hit in 2017 with the home form and titles that - while launching on all NX platforms - are pushed heavily as launch titles for that.
I'd guess a superset (correct term?) of whatever the handheld ends up being.
Herb Alpert
Banned
everything was moved to NX.
Joke aside, it would be good. They know they have to go all out for the launch.
A lot seems to have moved to the NX already looking at Nintendo's E3. I could pull shit like this out of my ass as well.
It will be somewhere between 3DS and TitanX.
Somehow I doubt even this would lend to 20m in a year.
"In the home console space, we’re focused on Wii U. NX is in the future. That’s something that we’ll talk about at the appropriate time. But right now, it’s all about driving our Wii U business." - Reggie talking to Forbes about the lack of NX at E3
The mainline prime games have typically all been first person console games to appeal to the West (Metroid's main audience). A handheld hybrid that's not replacing the Wii U would not be the location for the next Metroid. In the same article he mentions the reason he hasn't made a Wii U Metroid Prime is because he hasn't gotten enough resources to do one yet, implying it'll be an HD console release.
The main reason I don't think it'll be a hybrid handheld device (with a dock to plug it into the TV, or streaming or whatnot) is:
a) It leaves the Wii U in a limbo of no support and continued failing.
b) They aren't showing Zelda for super arbitrary reasons, which everyone is assuming it'll be coming to be NX in a TP-like scenario when they show it off at E3 2016 and announce the NX.
c) By making the NX a hybrid handheld, it basically butchers any attempt at a proper home console they'd release later (especially in JP).
d) Iwata has gone on record talking about his goals of making an iOS/Android infrastructure so games work across multiple form factors (and wanting to release more form factors). Creating a hybrid that would have all the same games as the traditional home console would destroy any incentive of buying both. And assuming they don't have the same games being released across platforms, why would he talk about the whole iOS/Android infrastructure?
Of course this is all speculation because there's no real way to figure out what Nintendo is going to do barring a few leaks, but I just think a hybrid is way less likely than multiple console running under a similar infrastructure.
Could the leak be that Nintendo wants to reserve the possibility of 20m units production and a summer launch? With the ability to scale down to 10m and the more likely Oct/Nov launch, so long as notification of reduction is given at some specified date later this year after pilot building.
Probably just bullshit, but who knows
Probably just bullshit, but who knows
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Well I can certainly believe that NX is a 2016 console. I can't imagine them trying to limp through yet another year with the Wii U.
To be honest I think it might as well be either or. I have just learned not to read too much into what Nintendo says.
Plinko
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No tablet controller could easily make this an affordable console visibly more powerful than Wii U in late 2016.
"Will Nintendo go mobile?" stemmed from mobile platforms doing insane revenues and being a logical platform to put their games on.
"Will Nintendo make a hybrid console?" stems from generic gadget wank only. Or there exists multiple highly successful hybrid consoles that I do not know about.
If we're using PS4 and XBO as barometers to say it's a handheld, a few things to keep in mind:
The 10 million quoted for PS4 was for North America and Europe only, as Japan's launch date was pushed and Microsoft had no hopes of selling anywhere but North America. Nintendo, in contrast, seems rather keen on near-simultaneous hardware launches (New 3DS being the exception and not the rule).
Couple that with this being potentially both a console and handheld order, and 20mil doesn't sound like an aggressive number or indicative of what they're building necessarily.
The 10 million quoted for PS4 was for North America and Europe only, as Japan's launch date was pushed and Microsoft had no hopes of selling anywhere but North America. Nintendo, in contrast, seems rather keen on near-simultaneous hardware launches (New 3DS being the exception and not the rule).
Couple that with this being potentially both a console and handheld order, and 20mil doesn't sound like an aggressive number or indicative of what they're building necessarily.
Nvidia is overpriced.
I am calling BS on this one. Iwata said they would give more info on NX in 2016, nothing about releasing it. And to release it in summer is very unlikely, as it would be very close to a period where they would just announce it.
On the off chance this is true,I am expecting release of both handheld and home console to be released at the same time. 20m on just one of them won't happen.
On the off chance this is true,I am expecting release of both handheld and home console to be released at the same time. 20m on just one of them won't happen.
There doesn't currently exist a succesful Nintendo console. Either they try something out of the left field or die.
I think Nvidia failing to deliver the last time Nintendo worked with them would be a bigger factor. Nvidia tends to play loose with facts and specifications and Nintendo does not. When Nintendo says we want X. You do not offer them X+1.
Nvidia lost the 3DS contract because they could not deliver what they promised and Nintendo instead of budging said Sayonara
Orakio Rob
Member
What about "No X-it"? It's even better in Portuguese, where it sounds like "no shit" ^_^
Their current shield console which has a 512GFLOP GPU (more powerful than the wiiU) runs $200 with 16GB of internal memory.
the androgyne
Member
If this is true, they must be moving Federation Force across and making it a launch title!
visiblemode
Member
This $150 everyone keeps talking about is illogical as hell.
They don't even sell their new 3DS for that price point and have you seen the specs?
Anything can happen in theory, buf every time I see $150 repeated I cringe. It makes zero sense.
They don't even sell their new 3DS for that price point and have you seen the specs?
Anything can happen in theory, buf every time I see $150 repeated I cringe. It makes zero sense.
If there is no succesfull nintendo console right now they would be losing money and managament would be changed in last voting.
Last_colossi
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Hmmm... Maybe the first part of NX is a smartphone that plays 3DS games?, That or an extremely fantastic 3DS successor. Those are the only two things I can think of that could ever push out those numbers at launch.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Eh I highly doubt they want to do another Wii u and release a console into a year after it's originally unveiled. One it's not easy to maintain interest for a whole year, and I imagine they'd also not want to squander marketing opportunity this time especially when their competitors have already shown releasing the same year as announcing it can be very successful.
Also do you really think they want to go another year of the 3DS and Wii U's sales? I highly doubt that. Successor mention would in itself hurt those platforms, they gain almost nothing by mentioning a successor a year in advance.
And?
Iwata certainly didn't keep his spot for anything else but future promises (namely mobile).
That's $100 less than the wiiU which I would say means it's not overpriced. At least not too overpriced for Nintendo.
Bots are better than you
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Well .. be it handheld or console, i just hope that this time they use off-the-shelf parts and not something incredibly exotic again.
Should be easier to work and develop for it, plus the bonus that such parts tend to actually drop in price, making future pricedrops possible.
Should be easier to work and develop for it, plus the bonus that such parts tend to actually drop in price, making future pricedrops possible.
Cosmonaut X
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3DS price is also at least in part to do with the 3D screen tech etc. being a limiting factor in price drops, I think. Something using more off-the-shelf components and less exotic tech could hit lower prices and faster. That's not to say that $150 is necessarily a reasonable launch price for a more powerful machine than the 3DS, but the price of the 3DS perhaps reflects the components used there more than the specs and Nintendo's stubbornness. See also: Wii U GamePad etc.
Barry Burton
Member
I'm not sure they'd launch in July, but everything else seems plausible. I'd be shocked if there's no new Nintendo hardware by the end of 2016. My sense is that they've been planning to cut the Wii U loose early for a while.
Makes sense to me. 3DS is following a highly traditional lifespan, it missed a late 2010 launch and in 2016 will be nearly 6 years old. Sales have started to slow, it's already gotten an end of life update. It's ready, more than Wii U is and quite frankly the handheld business is more important.
Nintendo probably can't deal with the launch strain of 2 devices at the same time, nor would the market. Then need a gap but also to get the holiday season spot, back-to-back years makes the most sense.
I don't buy the hybrid idea because it increases cost, decrease device sales, decreases total userbase and decreases gameplay options. People like both, will buy both and sometimes you can do on one what you can't do on another. It's also counter to a lot of Nintendo-isms. I just don't see it happening.
3DS and Wii U are so expensive due to using specific specialized parts vs off the shelf parts ala Sony and MS. That plus the 3D screen tech and the Wii U's Game Pad raising costs even further. They could easily lower costs by making a more simple device (not necessarily in terms of power, but in terms of components).
I can easily see them not going over 179$ for the new portable at D1, 3DS launch price taught them a hard lesson. They're still selling the 3DS at this price to make a lot of money on every single unit sold.
Anyway the fact that Nvidia is selling a Tegra X1 based console at 199$ makes me hope that ~150GFLOPs for the portable at 179 is possible.
... And this news is obviously fake, those numbers are nuts and Nintendo never announced to release anything in 2016, even if the portable is likely to come out for Christmas next year.
The home will probably come out in 2017. That's 5 years.
wild wild rice
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Don't systems usually launch in Japan around that time then later in other regions?
same thing I felt the last time a console only lasted 4 years. pretty standard gen length relatively speaking.