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Final Fantasy IX Steam store page is up. Releasing before FF15
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It's no harder than, say, building the pyramids. The pyramids got built, so what's S-E's excuse?!?!?!
It started off with allowing you to boost yourself to a shit ton of many Magic abilities (but not the endgame ones)
Later on, completely out of the blue Squeenix dropped a patch that included more boosts like fast forward, etc.
Which makes it all the more bizarre that FFVII on Steam didn't get stuff like that, especially when the PS4 version did.
or maybe some people just don't care as much? it's actually possible. and the wipey-gripey assertions that someone is incentivized to say how they feel can easily apply to your own readiness to make a volcano out of a mountain out of a molehill.
I mean if you wanted to call someone out for shilling because they're involved with Final Fantasy you should be yelling at me, not him. :V
I didn't even know this port was coming out
woopWOOP
Member
Oh wow, awesome. Was watching a friend playing through FF7 for the first time earlier. He's enjoying it and I told him that personally both FF7 and FF9 are my favorites, but there wasn't a good way to play the latter on PC and that I never finished it myself because the battles take so damn long so I couldn't really recommend it.
BAM, Steam port with high speed modus coming this year. Atleast I know what to get him for his birthday now, lol
BAM, Steam port with high speed modus coming this year. Atleast I know what to get him for his birthday now, lol
It could be better. I made some tests here with screencaps from ps1 emus and Retroarch filters (Ignore the 3D models):
Super-xBR-3p
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision
Super-xBR-3p + AdaptiveSharpen
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision + AdaptiveSharpen
And the last one, four times the original resolution (a bit cropped, as my display is only 768p
):
Gentleman Jack
Member
It could be better. I made some tests here with screencaps from ps1 emus and Retroarch filters (Ignore the 3D models):
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision + AdaptiveSharpen
Why are these so oversaturated? They look awful.
Because it uses Natural Vision shader, which does only this: oversaturate colors from bland games. If it's too much for you, then look at the others without it.
It could be better. I made some tests here with screencaps from ps1 emus and Retroarch filters (Ignore the 3D models):
Super-xBR-3p
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision
Super-xBR-3p + AdaptiveSharpen
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision + AdaptiveSharpen
And the last one, four times the original resolution (a bit cropped, as my display is only 768p
OMG my eyes...it hurts :O
Btw it's clear that using the same low res backgrounds as a basis there wouldn't be miracles.
I'm surprised they bothered to improve the models.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Like with the Disgaea PC port I'd rather they implemented CRT shaders than mess with all this filtering nonsense. I generally dislike filters that smear the pixel art around.
Basileus777
Member
You want CRT shades for a port of a PSP game?
I dunno, some people want chiptune arrangements of everything.
Live and let live etc.
Gentleman Jack
Member
PSP port of a PS2 game, yes.
Hyllian helpfully posted previews of the differences in the Disgaea PC thread
Resampling comparison
CRT shader comparison
R10Neymarfan
Member
Yep, guess it will be modern that will turn to fill the game with as many original HD assets as possible, then they'll have to upscale manually
Wheelatron
Member
This is based off original high-res source art though, which doesn't exist for every background. There is a lot of high res 'lost art' but it's only a tiny fraction of all the art.
I respect that this is a business and just because I'd really like Square-Enix to do Thing X or Thing Y to their game, doesn't mean that it's cost-effective for them to do.
With that said this is a port, not something they are building from scratch, and Square-Enix is right now charging $22.49 Canadian for their very bare-bones FFVI mobile port, so I'm understandably prepared for this port to cost at least as much, if not more. I could get the game on PSN for less than half that so there's a premium I'm paying. I'm not expecting the world out of this port, but I think it's fair to expect more than the bare bones treatment. They aren't asking me to pay a bare bones price, after all.
Specifically what you quoted is using modern upscale algorithms.
I'm surprised Waifu2x looks decent. It's more meant to tackle lineart, not FFIX's vibrant artstyle, not to mention the source is rather low res.
It could be better. I made some tests here with screencaps from ps1 emus and Retroarch filters (Ignore the 3D models):
Super-xBR-3p
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision
Super-xBR-3p + AdaptiveSharpen
Super-xBR-3p + Natural Vision + AdaptiveSharpen
And the last one, four times the original resolution (a bit cropped, as my display is only 768p
Hmm...no. Not unless I was looking for FFIX: Impressionism Edition
The source is extracted directly from the game. That particular background is bigger because you scroll through it in-game. Some guy from reddit extracted most backgrounds directly from the game (367 images):
http://imgur.com/a/A09TB
The game is freaking beautiful. Best art design of the series IMO.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
That's awful, at least with the original art I can see flowers being flowers, not flat polygonal shapes....
UnblessedSoul
Member
Currently the best way to upscale is using waifu upscale with no noise reduction, so the detail remains, there are no algorithms made anywhere that will that will do anything other than make it a blurry mess otherwise.
texhnolyze
Banned
Those pics are awfully ugly.
It's not perfect but this is honestly close to the best result you could get without having to resort to touching up the image manually or doing models based on the extracted background and rendering it like some insane guys are already doing for FFVII.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Jesus christ seriously?
lastflowers
Banned
FUCK YES. HIGH SPEED MODE.
People have already begun to play with the backgrounds and got really decent results. The modders will make this game look great.
Damn that waifu2x filter is amazing. Square should use it for all their PS1 ports. I hope FF9 isn't too hard to mod.
Honestly, I'm open to people trying to touch up the backgrounds, if they do a good job of it. I can tell a couple of these filter examples shown above are really quick-n-dirty attempts, and probably not anywhere near indicative of what could be done with somebody that had a better idea what they were doing, or even if they just had more time.
That said, if people are going to touch up the backgrounds, it'd be nice if they could start off with swapping out the high-res lost assets that're already out on the internet and all that. I know that's only a very small fraction of the total backgrounds, but it'd be a start at least.
Either way, I'll enjoy playing the game again though.
PS: nnedi3-rpow2 is probably the best of the filters, as far as I can tell. Waifu2 looks a bit too oversaturated, and a bit smudged at spots. That's not to say either look bad mind you.
That said, if people are going to touch up the backgrounds, it'd be nice if they could start off with swapping out the high-res lost assets that're already out on the internet and all that. I know that's only a very small fraction of the total backgrounds, but it'd be a start at least.
Either way, I'll enjoy playing the game again though.
PS: nnedi3-rpow2 is probably the best of the filters, as far as I can tell. Waifu2 looks a bit too oversaturated, and a bit smudged at spots. That's not to say either look bad mind you.
I was prepared to say I really liked that image, until you pointed out those flowers.
Some things are better left pixellated.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It doesn't look too dissimilar to the results we can get with epsxe + openGL2 plugin and its shader options.
I'm more curious just what the hell is making this a 20GB port. That is approx 10x content the original game has .. is it just lossless FMV's ? That can't be it ...
I can't think of much else it could be. Other than an error in the listing, but if it is it hasn't been corrected.
7 was spoiled for all of us that were online when it came out. Being spoiled on it's story is no big deal. The greatness of 7 is not with the plot twists but with the atmosphere. I would say start with 7 or X.
Check again, the second picture is an animated gif before/after.
I played my PS1 games on ePSXe quite a bit with the best opengl2 plugins I could get my hands on, and it doesn't look anywhere near as good as that. Waifu is a lot less destructive to the picture.
GhostTrick
Banned
Wow this is looking like a hot mess.
Hopefully S-E treats the best game in the series, FF8, better than this when it comes time to upscale that one.
Those tiled backgrounds remind me of how ugly FF6 turned out in the mobile version. I doubt FF9 is anybody's favorite (it's the least popular of the PS1 RPGs), but it deserved better treatment than this at least.
Between the poorly upscaled visuals and the awful Zidane being the worst protagonist in the series, I think I'll give this release a hard pass.
3/10
You tried.
And the last one, four times the original resolution (a bit cropped, as my display is only 768p
How did Vivi end up in Chrono Cross Temporal Vortex ?
HAHA
bobawesome
Member
Thank you for the eye bleach. These look amazing.
artsi
Member
It looks pretty good, but they will need to apply it to 400+ something backgrounds with animation and layers so let's see if anyone does it.
I mean, a lot of that can be automated. Majority of the effort would be seeing if anything breaks or looks off.
I know we're on page 9 but read the thread. At least the last 4 pages or so.
artsi
Member
Oh yeah, I could write a script to do the scaling to a bunch of images even myself, but I feel it still requires some manual overseeing for a good result.
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