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Final Fantasy IX Steam store page is up. Releasing before FF15
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You are essentially forced to play these games on PC since Square does such a piss poor job with these ports.
The FFVI modding community is already up and running, they have found a way to replace all of the sprites with the originals, if you so choose, and have removed the absolutely inexplicable filter that Square uses to blur out the sprites. The originals do look better than the new sprites, but the new ones actually look pretty good once you remove the filter.
The FFVI modding community is already up and running, they have found a way to replace all of the sprites with the originals, if you so choose, and have removed the absolutely inexplicable filter that Square uses to blur out the sprites. The originals do look better than the new sprites, but the new ones actually look pretty good once you remove the filter.
PhilipDoesMatter
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My favorite on the psx and the last decent FF. 6 is still king.
I fail to see the upgrade on aliasing. If you downcale even the 3D models to original resolution, all benefits of anti-aliasing are neutralized.
Tested it here using N64 core on RA and the output is the same to my eyes. The tests were:
1- Run an N64 game with original internal resolution, so the 3D models are aliased and then apply a crt shader to 4x the size.
2- Run an N64 game with 4x times the internal resolution so that the 3D models get rid of aliasing, then apply a downscale of 4x using a box filter (stock.cg), then upscale again using a crt shader.
No differences in my eyes.
If I use a better downscale as bicubic, it only add some blurring artifacts.
The idea is you're downsampling from an integer multiple of the exact resolution the original backgrounds have, to that exact resolution. Which means they shouldn't get blurred at all, while 3D elements get essentially a square grid downsample AA.
It also requires all other elements, like dialogue boxes, fonts, etc to be exacting so they're similarly not affected by the downsample.
It also requires all other elements, like dialogue boxes, fonts, etc to be exacting so they're similarly not affected by the downsample.
Did the original game run at 15 or 30fps? I can''t remember.
Same as the other PS1 FF's: 15 during battle and the overworld, 30 everywhere else. FF9's framerate doesn't seem locked to 15 in battles, though. There are certain cases when it goes up.
The Steam page lists "partial" controller support as a feature, which seemed weird to me. Any perspective on exactly what that means?
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Easton Dark
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It works 99% in game but not on the Square Enix launcher used to start it, and you hit Escape to quit the game in lieu of a power button.
That's the case with FF7 and FF8.
Snore Crime
Neo Member
Didn't 7 not have proper menu support or something?
I imagine that would seriously annoy me.
Yeah. I never got my DS4 to work with FF VII, hopefully I won't run into the same problem with IX.
DiipuSurotu
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Chrono Cross got a bunch of re-releases including Greatest Hits, Ultimate Hits, "Millennium Edition" (featuring a calendar, clock, and music sampler), PSN, etc. It's only a matter of time.
Quite respectable. At least any smudging fits the art style somewhat, which was painterly.
Easton Dark
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I don't remember having issues with the menus. The only thing was the game not having recognizable button icons, so you had better have memorized which buttons were "action", "select", etc, or those minigames like the troop parade were over before they began.
Basileus777
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Early 2016 is the only thing we've ever had as far as release date goes beyond the brief time when the Steam page said January.
Ah, so January isn't for sure anymore? Lame. Alright, thanks!
As far as we can tell, January was a mistake that was corrected.
Something interesting I noticed in this video someone made comparing shot-for-shot the scenes in the trailer with the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJIMUJnvsg
The original version is distorted because they stretched it to match the widescreen aspect ratio of the trailer footage. Even so, you can tell just how much sharper the FMV footage from the trailer is. But that's not the most interesting part: In the side-by-side you can see that some of the footage from the trailer actually had rasterized credits displayed over it in the original version, and doesn't in the new version. If they had just upscaled the PSOne video files, those would have been extremely difficult for them to edit out for the trailer since they were just a part of the video.
Unless I'm missing something, that basically confirms that S-E still had the higher-res source files for the FMVs kicking around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJIMUJnvsg
The original version is distorted because they stretched it to match the widescreen aspect ratio of the trailer footage. Even so, you can tell just how much sharper the FMV footage from the trailer is. But that's not the most interesting part: In the side-by-side you can see that some of the footage from the trailer actually had rasterized credits displayed over it in the original version, and doesn't in the new version. If they had just upscaled the PSOne video files, those would have been extremely difficult for them to edit out for the trailer since they were just a part of the video.
Unless I'm missing something, that basically confirms that S-E still had the higher-res source files for the FMVs kicking around.
Wolf Akela
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Looks like they cropped it though. If they had the source, why not show more sides?
Hasn't that already been agreed upon?
No, it's been speculated, but it's never been decisively shown.
That was discussed earlier. Pretty sure the widescreen cropping is just for the trailer or possibly the mobile version. All the Steam screenshots show pillarboxed 4:3.
I found VIII to be pretty uniformly awful, and a major letdown from VII. IX is my favorite in the series by a pretty wide margin.
Either something is wrong with your eyes or something is wrong with your process
Exactly.
Honestly, I'm still kind hoping that people can track down most the lost background raws somehow. I mean I know that in CRT mode the backgrounds look pretty good and all, but, why compromise. XD
That said, yeah I really have mixed feelings about those filters used on some backgrounds. Some look fine, but others look kinda, bad.
That said, yeah I really have mixed feelings about those filters used on some backgrounds. Some look fine, but others look kinda, bad.
BossDarkseid
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I get the feeling this will be available for purchase right after i spend my last bit of spare cash for the month. Or it'll be like FFXHD and get announced what feels like decades before it was released.
Maybe. Or that could still be an artifact from when it was listed as "January 2016". Guess we'll find out.
A lesser known bit of trivia is that the original FF8 on PC had higher resolution FMV than the PSX counterpart.
So yeah, not surprised it exists. Unlike the backgrounds which were probably touched up/edited/animated at PSX resolutions, there's no reason the high res FMVs should be significantly different from the resized/encoded-for-PSX versions.
The source is quite likely 4:3 aspect. This was a 1999 video game.
APZonerunner
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This has been pretty obvious since the days when Sakaguchi was posting dumb renders with the old FF9 CG models on the Mistwalker blog at random; if he has them still, one can assume SE probably does too. It's 7 and 8 where stuff was lost, primarily 7. The sources for the backgrounds in their final forms appear to be gone though.
Well, it's never been clear exactly what they still have and what they don't. Most of the discussion around the subject has been pure speculation. And since FFIX was a Square USA production and more of it was farmed to subcontractors than other FF titles of the era (including the FMVs from what I understand), the picture has always been even hazier.
I never have read the Mistwalker blog. But hey: if they still have the CG models, there's hope that one day those could be employed in a remake if they ever decide to fully re-do the environments.
Probably not because the store updated 32 minutes ago.
I made some experiment by creating a new shader for ePSXe. The shader manages to filter only the background and ignores the polygons which are in High Res! The background is filtered using a Jinc2-sharper.
Results:
http://postimg.org/gallery/u000rszw/51221ae6/
https://anonfiles.com/file/18bc387085b375c7bf3708f93bbcac57
Results:
http://postimg.org/gallery/u000rszw/51221ae6/
https://anonfiles.com/file/18bc387085b375c7bf3708f93bbcac57
Lactose_Intolerant
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old post
With the right settings in epsxe you can make the game look pretty decent
It's listed between the Jan 30th & Feb 1st titles for me, so any either of those (or the 31st) would be my guess. Not expecting it today (29th in the UK).
MulderYuffie
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We've been through this already so not getting my hopes up won't lie my heart skipped a beat when I saw this thread back up on the front page. :/
You can see a dude playing the mobile version here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjGozSt_fM
MulderYuffie
Member
The more and more I watch that video the more I want this game.
texhnolyze
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qualitydisc
Member
This is a edited pictures with the background "Lost Art"
(ePSXe vs Lost Art vs PS1 240p)
Oh. This sort of breaks my heart a little. But I know, as Falk said, the amount of work to track down the original files (which I'm sure are not compiled neatly on a hard drive somewhere) to restore something like this would be cost-prohibitive. At least we have the delightful Mama Robotnik thread.
Wow, it looks really good. Except for the backgrounds, of course!
I wish I knew what they were saying.
Tizoc
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It wont release this week
What is with u kids lol
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