Unsigned code cannot interact with "universal apps".So you can't run unsigned code?
As I said, for me as a PC enthusiast that is unacceptable.
Even Origin and Uplay are far superior PC gaming platforms in comparison.
Unsigned code cannot interact with "universal apps".So you can't run unsigned code?
But that doesn't make sense if the objective is to make a profit. I honestly don't see what's the big deal is, as I use the windows store on my Tablet just fine.That's not how the world works and they are not doing anyone a favor by putting the game on PC. It's just business, pure and simple. People choose if they want to buy something or not, entitlement is irrelevant here. If they put their money where their mouth are, (not many will) that's bad for the publisher period.
Yeah if this is such a big issue to you guys then don't buy the game and when it sells horribly and they dont bother with the next port you'll just complain about them not caring for PC games again and asking for ports but ok. 🐸 ☕
We'll see if this will ultimately work out for them.
But given the Windows store in it's current state, would you really want to?
If I had a capable PC and saw that Xbox games were going to be dumped into the Windows 10 store the way it's set up now I'd definitely take a pass on it. In fact the XBO might actually seem like the better option.
I wonder how long it would had taken to patch and modify game files for it if they were never putting it on PC.
PC gamers already don't have to pay for online fees. Entitlement is never an attractive quality.
Good.
I'm talking about the fact that Windows store "apps" are not actual Win32 programs, and thus offer far less functionality and control to the user than you can expect with a real PC program.
Until that changes (and it won't), "universal apps" are unacceptable to me as a PC gamer.
I don't have any issue with not using Steam. I have an issue with turning my PC into a (faster) console.
I actually didn't know this.
But after about 5 minutes of Googling, I found a solution.
- Go to your Program Files, click the 'View' tab at the top of your window and select 'Hidden Items'
- You'll now see a WindowsApp folder. Double click it and it'll say you don't have the permissions. Follow these directions.
- Go to an explorer bar and type in: %windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{4234d49b-0245-4df3-b780-3893943456e1}
- Press Enter, find the Windows App you're looking for and make a shortcut on your desktop.
You can run it directly from that shortcut now.
Then good luck to them with that lol. I won't be buying anything off their store.
FAIL. Very bad decision, they are repeating the same mistakes they did with Games for Windows LIVE!
This statement is true and at the same time hearing that uPlay is superior platform to anything else on PC makes my head hurt.Unsigned code cannot interact with "universal apps".
As I said, for me as a PC enthusiast that is unacceptable.
Even Origin and Uplay are far superior PC gaming platforms in comparison.
Any type of executable-level modification or injection, as well as changes to data files in some cases.By being a MS Store exclusive, what exactly isn't possible ?
okay, shit, let's list it so maybe people stop with the "lol steam DRM fanboys" stuff
advantages of Steam:
- platform where your friends are
- platform you already use where are all your games are, no need to divide it
- no need to start using yet ANOTHER storefront / account / CC info / what have you
- ability to use your Steam credit you earned to buy the game rather than your money
- screenshots
- achievements
- guides
- all these within overlay
- SALES, chance for the game to go cheaper
- the fact that every other storefront has had one way to fuck up or another. be it lost saves, file corruption, slow downloads, whatever the fuck
- this alternative is virtually GFWL 2.0 which was by far the worse of all these other storefronts
do you really "don't see" why some people might not like this and just chalk it up to "PEOPLE ARE NEVER HAPPY?"
I just assume people who say this arent familiar with the platform
thankfully the game will come to Steam eventually cause that's where PC games sell and they ultimately want their game to sell.
Yes, and sometimes it doesn't work. I can't access that folder after doing that. So...He has to go through all of that for the privilege of accessing the folders?
Yes that's a very bad decision, what is Microsoft thinking? If i were them i'd also release it on PS4, Origin and Uplay! They must be mad....
Yeah, I did this after my second (horrible) experience with the store, just to be rid of them after uninstalling all the W10 store apps on my PC.I actually didn't know this.
But after about 5 minutes of Googling, I found a solution.
I actually didn't know this.
But after about 5 minutes of Googling, I found a solution.
- Go to your Program Files, click the 'View' tab at the top of your window and select 'Hidden Items'
- You'll now see a WindowsApp folder. Double click it and it'll say you don't have the permissions. Follow these directions.
- Go to an explorer bar and type in: %windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{4234d49b-0245-4df3-b780-3893943456e1}
- Press Enter, find the Windows App you're looking for and make a shortcut on your desktop.
You can run it directly from that shortcut now.
Yes that's a very bad decision, what is Microsoft thinking? If i were them i'd also release it on PS4, Origin and Uplay! They must be mad....
I fully understand why folk are apprehensive about another MS PC platform (could never get into Batman: AA because of all the GFWL issues I ran into) but, as a question from someone who hasn't kept up with PC modding, isn't this kind of sandboxing decent at preventing online cheating?
Moot point for a singleplayer game like QB but with crossplay coming down the pipe I could see why the 'app' setup would be passed of as a benefit from MS.
OH no, What is Microsoft going to do?
This statement is true and at the same time hearing that uPlay is superior platform to anything else on PC makes my head hurt.
Im not saying that Win10 is the best are to play them just saying that we kinda have to put up with it because thats just how MS rolls. Now you, like others, will vote with your wallet and not buy there which is fine. (But if you have an xbone and get PC ver for free, then you are better off playing Win10 ver eventually)
I do hope that maybe once these games dont perform that well, may get released elsewhere. But then again, sales will likely be on xbone so it may take a while.
To me the first thing is getting these games on PC, then the next step is hopefully onto new services eventually.
He has to go through all of that just for the privilege of accessing the folders his games are installed in?
Ucchedavāda;195142576 said:That does not appear to work for all apps; the one I tried it with complained that "this application can only run in the context of an app container", when running the executable directly from its folder.
You can just set yourself as the folder owner and get full access. It's similar to a few other system folders that admins don't have permissions by default, but can add themselves, since they are admins.He has to go through all of that just for the privilege of accessing the folders his games are installed in?
Well no shit. Thinking they'd publish on Steam is like thinking Sony would start porting stuff to PC. Oh, some people thought that.
Elaborate.
Any type of executable-level modification or injection, as well as changes to data files in some cases.
So, say goodbye to
- Performance analysis overlays.
- Graphics injectors.
- Integration of useful external applications like Mumble.
- Community fixes or feature extensions.
- In-depth modding.
Basically, turn your PC into a console with better specs.
God damn this is such an awful argument. People aren't being "entitled", the Windows Store has LEGITIMATE TECHNICAL ISSUES, along with a piss poor track record.
Also, MS already tried to make PC gamers pay to play online with the first iterations of GFWL. It didn't work because it's an open platform.
Just... Wow.
What do you think you're adding to this thread with posts like these? Shitposting in order to start platform wars is downright embarrassing. Grow up.
I frankly am starting to find almost he entirety of underlying framework of Win10 being comprised of much horseshit. From call home stuff, to constant bugs, to issues with distributed management (lots of problems with SCCM), to restrictions, it's just not enticing as a platform. I speak from both personal and corporate views (largish company of 50k plus). I don't even want to go into the patching fiasco with it.Yeah, I did this after my second (horrible) experience with the store, just to be rid of them after uninstalling all the W10 store apps on my PC.
Just completely unacceptable.
I like how Microsoft pretty much tells PC gamers to fuck off for nearly ten years, and then pretends like Steam isn't some universally used distribution service when they decide to once again grace us with their presence.
MS leadership from 2004 to 2014...simply brilliant.
Then does not equal now. MS's ecosystem push is THE main reason this is happening.
Microsoft invests in a game, Microsoft takes all the profit, Microsoft continue investing in gaming and create better titles for all.
Letting Steam crash the party was never the intended effect of bringing exclusives to PC, and personally I'm not a steam-fanboy so I could care less.
They should not conform to the PC standards, they are quite literally horrific and totally biased towards the consumer which in theory is good, but makes an impact on the developers and sales of the product.
I'm all for letting people mod games and I think MS will answer those demands, but I don't think they should put their investments on other stores just because people are fanboys of one particular service.
Wasn't there a Phil Spencer quote about him wanting to rebuild trust with PC gamers? I'm sure strong-arming them onto your closed platform will go over really, really well.
Any type of executable-level modification or injection, as well as changes to data files in some cases.
So, say goodbye to
- Performance analysis overlays.
- Graphics injectors.
- Integration of useful external applications like Mumble.
- Community fixes or feature extensions.
- In-depth modding.
Basically, turn your PC into a console with better specs.
Doubtful. It'll slow things down a tad for the first major release that's storefront only, but once a method is refined for injecting/intercepting/whatever your poison, it becomes a moot point for later releases.
If NeoGaf had a signature feature this would be mine. Amazing.They should not conform to the PC standards, they are quite literally horrific and totally biased towards the consumer
Who gives a shit? Is Sony putting their AAA third party exclusives on steam? Is there some sort of precedence of a major video game console manufacturing with one of the largest self distribution avenues doing it?
QB went from console exclusive, to available on PC. Period. Moving the goal post with childish fervor is embarrassing. Especially for all we know they will eventually allow it to be published through third part digital distribution. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a company wanting to use their existing infrastructure to publish something and help grow their other products.
Issues with what you can and cannot do with said distribution, are completely irrelevant to whether or not someone is getting upset over this over entitlement.
If NeoGaf had a signature feature this would be mine. Amazing.
I'll gladly keep the PC a platform biased towards consumers lol.