Unsigned code cannot interact with "universal apps".
As I said, for me as a PC enthusiast that is unacceptable.
Even Origin and Uplay are far superior PC gaming platforms in comparison.
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Greenberg: Quantum Break is not coming to Steam
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As I said, for me as a PC enthusiast that is unacceptable.
Even Origin and Uplay are far superior PC gaming platforms in comparison.
What a surprising turn of events, I mean it's not like Microsoft has done this in the past.
I'm legitimately surprised some people actually expected it on steam. Personally this doesn't affect me but its honestly pointless to restrict it to the windows store. It would have been smarter to maybe make it cheaper on the MS store and giving an actual incentive to people on pc besides use our store.
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I'm legitimately surprised some people actually expected it on steam. Personally this doesn't affect me but its honestly pointless to restrict it to the windows store. It would have been smarter to maybe make it cheaper on the MS store and giving an actual incentive to people on pc besides use our store.
But that doesn't make sense if the objective is to make a profit. I honestly don't see what's the big deal is, as I use the windows store on my Tablet just fine.
Hahaha
Im not saying that Win10 is the best are to play them just saying that we kinda have to put up with it because thats just how MS rolls. Now you, like others, will vote with your wallet and not buy there which is fine. (But if you have an xbone and get PC ver for free, then you are better off playing Win10 ver eventually)
I do hope that maybe once these games dont perform that well, may get released elsewhere. But then again, sales will likely be on xbone so it may take a while.
To me the first thing is getting these games on PC, then the next step is hopefully onto new services eventually.
Nah but having a platforms so backwards compared to every other popular storefront on PC and then thinking everyone will be happy and buy their games seems like a pretty weird view on this.
Also it's a closed platform which is pretty much the anti-PC thing, not something that I will support at all.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Elaborate.
StereoVsn
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This is absolutely correct and is basically a deal breaker. I also have to wonder if the inherent security limitations mean that AV software can't access the install or runtime for the games as well or of at least this is open to AV api.
dancrane212
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I fully understand why folk are apprehensive about another MS PC platform (could never get into Batman: AA because of all the GFWL issues I ran into) but, as a question from someone who hasn't kept up with PC modding, isn't this kind of sandboxing decent at preventing online cheating?
Moot point for a singleplayer game like QB but with crossplay coming down the pipe I could see why the 'app' setup would be passed of as a benefit from MS.
Moot point for a singleplayer game like QB but with crossplay coming down the pipe I could see why the 'app' setup would be passed of as a benefit from MS.
Kane Zakharov
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He has to go through all of that just for the privilege of accessing the folders his games are installed in?
OH no, What is Microsoft going to do?
Yes that's a very bad decision, what is Microsoft thinking? If i were them i'd also release it on PS4, Origin and Uplay! They must be mad....
StereoVsn
Member
This statement is true and at the same time hearing that uPlay is superior platform to anything else on PC makes my head hurt.
Any type of executable-level modification or injection, as well as changes to data files in some cases.
So, say goodbye to
- Performance analysis overlays.
- Graphics injectors.
- Integration of useful external applications like Mumble.
- Community fixes or feature extensions.
- In-depth modding.
Basically, turn your PC into a console with better specs.
Calm Killer
In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
I guess I am just not a fan of steam from your perspective. None of the things listed above have been a determining factor for me when buying a PC game. Its just another store to me.
My people are never happy comment was based on Microsoft will never bring games to PC. They do and everyone loses their minds because they don't get everything exactly the way they want it. /shrug
Just saying that a game being sold in a specific place has never stopped me from buying it. Steam, Origin, GFWL, all were fine for me. I bought the game for the game. Not the store it was sold on.
Fujinn
Member
Yes, and sometimes it doesn't work. I can't access that folder after doing that. So...
Oh come on, they've released their games fine on steam for years but for some reason this will be locked to their shitty appstore.
Haunted
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Yeah, I did this after my second (horrible) experience with the store, just to be rid of them after uninstalling all the W10 store apps on my PC.
Just completely unacceptable.
UcchedavÄda
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That does not appear to work for all apps; the one I tried it with complained that "this application can only run in the context of an app container", when running the executable directly from its folder.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Equating a digital storefront with another console... Don't even need to avatar quote you. Come on, man.
Lanrutcon
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Doubtful. It'll slow things down a tad for the first major release that's storefront only, but once a method is refined for injecting/intercepting/whatever your poison, it becomes a moot point for later releases.
Quality post.
uPlay is actually pretty ok, haven't had a problem with it for the last year or so.
Well just to be clear I'm not a PC guy at all, my computer can barely run games on it's lowest settings however I've upgraded to Windows 10 and can empathize with people who are hesitant to go that route given the complaints about the way the store is set up.
It takes like 1 minute to do, and then you never have to do it again.
Ucchedavāda;195142576 said:
Which didn't it work for? I just downloaded some random game (Asphalt) from the Windows Store to try it.
You can just set yourself as the folder owner and get full access. It's similar to a few other system folders that admins don't have permissions by default, but can add themselves, since they are admins.
A bit complicated, but doesn't actually lock you out.
The code signing does though. (You can't sign on behalf of MS, only they can. Just like Apple.)
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I like all my games in one place so I'm not a fan of this, especially with the store being so green right now.
Microsoft publishes on Steam.
Alpha Phoenix
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Did anyone seriously expect to see this game on Steam after Windows 10? I certainly didn't. I think it's pretty much EA and Origin all over again.
Microsoft invests in a game, Microsoft takes all the profit, Microsoft continue investing in gaming and create better titles for all.
Letting Steam crash the party was never the intended effect of bringing exclusives to PC, and personally I'm not a steam-fanboy so I could care less.
They should not conform to the PC standards, they are quite literally horrific and totally biased towards the consumer which in theory is good, but makes an impact on the developers and sales of the product.
I'm all for letting people mod games and I think MS will answer those demands, but I don't think they should put their investments on other stores just because people are fanboys of one particular service.
Bl@de
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And exclusive fullscreen + SLI (at least in RotR)
Who gives a shit? Is Sony putting their AAA third party exclusives on steam? Is there some sort of precedence of a major video game console manufacturing with one of the largest self distribution avenues doing it?
QB went from console exclusive, to available on PC. Period. Moving the goal post with childish fervor is embarrassing. Especially for all we know they will eventually allow it to be published through third part digital distribution. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a company wanting to use their existing infrastructure to publish something and help grow their other products.
Issues with what you can and cannot do with said distribution, are completely irrelevant to whether or not someone is getting upset over this over entitlement.
StereoVsn
Member
I frankly am starting to find almost he entirety of underlying framework of Win10 being comprised of much horseshit. From call home stuff, to constant bugs, to issues with distributed management (lots of problems with SCCM), to restrictions, it's just not enticing as a platform. I speak from both personal and corporate views (largish company of 50k plus). I don't even want to go into the patching fiasco with it.Yeah, I did this after my second (horrible) experience with the store, just to be rid of them after uninstalling all the W10 store apps on my PC.
Just completely unacceptable.
Crimsonclaw111
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If it's missing basic features like Rise of the Tomb Raider was I'll likely not bother with their games until they're <$20.
After GFWL I'm really hesitant. Is it true that W10 apps can only install to the C drive?
After GFWL I'm really hesitant. Is it true that W10 apps can only install to the C drive?
You mean no leadership in PC gaming since 2004.
But but Age of Empires II on Steam.
I'll gladly keep the PC a platform biased towards consumers lol. No console exclusive is worth that changing. Not even all of them toghether.
Strong arming them? MS is giving you two ways to play QB. Xbox One and PC via their store. Whatever the case they are giving you more then one option to play a game and that's more then their competitors are offering. I mean if Sony decided to released UC 4 on their own shitty PC app (if they had one) I'll gobble it up in a heartbeat!
Thank You for the answer.
In my opinion, this is somewhat disappointing, but I wouldn't call a game-breaker for me.
Then again, I already play most of my games in consoles and have, somewhat, been away from PC gaming for quite a while, so I have the mentality that if it runs fine, then there's really no problem.
I don't blame Microsoft for selling it only on their store, but I do hope they get the feedback or at least explain properly what are their future plans and support for their store. If it's going to remain locked, they better have something really good to interest players.
Salty Hippo
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Any sane person should at least wait for the Windows 10 event before deciding not to buy this game based on the store. I'll be very surprised if Spencer shows up on stage without a plan to make it better.
dancrane212
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That's a shame.
Souless Squirrel
Member
makes sense although I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna forget about the windows store like I do origin and end up not buying anything from it.
Then their infrastructure shouldn't be from the fucking DARK AGES, seriosuly.
Nothing should excuse the shit win10 app store and absolutely not because "well we got it at least", all these thing that they throw out of the window is expected to work on PC, not to even mention the walled garden they seem to want.
That's a good one, you could always have it copy pasted under you comment like this
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They should not conform to the PC standards, they are quite literally horrific and totally biased towards the consumer
Good for you, I enjoy it as well, but in it's current form it's not sustainable.
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