The Frankman
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Unfortunately this wasn't the major update that fixed Hawks. That one will be 1.1.10.
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Starhawk (Closed) Beta Testing thread of impressions and questions.
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The Frankman
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Go to the area that created them (Razorback/Starhawk depo) and pay the Rift Energy cost to spawn another. If no depo exists/has been destroyed, you have to make another structure that creates them.
Ah, thanks! I feel like there's a lot to learn compared to Warhawk which I thought was pretty easy to pick up and play. A tutorial would be nice.
The Frankman
Banned
This should help a little, long read though:
.::Starhawk Information Center::. | [UPDATED] November 14, 2011: BETA News and BETA F.A.Q.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Remember when nabbing a flag required air support? Is that even viable anymore? What about base capture/defense?
Erm no, it's all about managing resources now which totally kills the amazing flow of warhawk. Guess I'm gonna keep hatin' =/.
Erm no, it's all about managing resources now which totally kills the amazing flow of warhawk. Guess I'm gonna keep hatin' =/.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
I'm not keen on the current beta, but it's entirely possible this is an issue because of the smaller maps.
Is 32 BnB items per team the ceiling for BnB? I ask because that could be a real pain in the ass for even larger maps.
Acid sea map needs better RE barrel locations. The sea side mining locations are crap. It requires too much farming, being a mule to carry the stock to the center of the map and crap out fortifications where most players tend to go for flag caps.
I build the best god damn bases ever. :3
Pod Beacon, Supply Depot, Garage, Jet Pack Pad, Hawk Pad. YOUR ONE STOP MURDER SHOP! <3
Just had a fun/hilarious match in that second GAF room. Dropping a pod on the guy who had our flag, and who had just killed me, as he was trying to pull off in the jeep he had just built was the main highlight of this beta so far. Also knifing someone as he was waiting for me to come out of the pod.
The melee is pretty killer though. Seems to get you even if there is quite a bit of distance between players.
The melee is pretty killer though. Seems to get you even if there is quite a bit of distance between players.
The Return of
Banned
I have 3 beta keys, first 3 people to message gets them
Edit: out of codes
Edit: out of codes
They really have to implement a way to destroy/disable buildings you have already made without having to go back to them.
You get to 32 points used in structures pretty fast if all players are doing the right thing, but then if you need to move the middle base further or change things around quickly you have to go around disabling things and they might not even be your buildings.
Maybe an option on the wheel where you build things, there could be a number on the buildings you already built and with another key you would disable them.
The barrels seem right, on the space map they are perfectly placed. Lot's of interesting games and strategies. On the Acid Sea you can shoot them from almost the middle of the map if you crouch and aim.
Also, it is cool to be on the Razorback assaulting the opposite team AND dropping turrets at the same time. Hawks will probably make more sense with the big maps.
Tactics I am using:
- Build a turret AND put a land mine on it, if somebody tries to disable it BOOOM
- Old school Warhawk strategy: put a landmine ON the landmine pickup item
- Even more cool oldschool stuff: put landmines on enemy Hawks, Razorbacks, doors, heck! keep on pumping them
- Enter the enemy bunker from the top in the enemy base, fire away protected from inside. If somebody is coming in drop grenade before the door opens.
Space Map strategy:
Spawn right in the middle top of the available area, when the pod is dropping push into the middle of the map and you will land near the first batch of barrels, destroy with rifle close distance, keep running down and go to the middle, pick landmines and destroy barrels on your right with grenade, build turret between boxes and put landmine on it. Destroy barrels in front and the other ones from affar crouching to keep a good aim, build bunker, first batch of barrels you landed on should have respawned, keep building, dominate middle
You get to 32 points used in structures pretty fast if all players are doing the right thing, but then if you need to move the middle base further or change things around quickly you have to go around disabling things and they might not even be your buildings.
Maybe an option on the wheel where you build things, there could be a number on the buildings you already built and with another key you would disable them.
The barrels seem right, on the space map they are perfectly placed. Lot's of interesting games and strategies. On the Acid Sea you can shoot them from almost the middle of the map if you crouch and aim.
Also, it is cool to be on the Razorback assaulting the opposite team AND dropping turrets at the same time. Hawks will probably make more sense with the big maps.
Tactics I am using:
- Build a turret AND put a land mine on it, if somebody tries to disable it BOOOM
- Old school Warhawk strategy: put a landmine ON the landmine pickup item
- Even more cool oldschool stuff: put landmines on enemy Hawks, Razorbacks, doors, heck! keep on pumping them
- Enter the enemy bunker from the top in the enemy base, fire away protected from inside. If somebody is coming in drop grenade before the door opens.
Space Map strategy:
Spawn right in the middle top of the available area, when the pod is dropping push into the middle of the map and you will land near the first batch of barrels, destroy with rifle close distance, keep running down and go to the middle, pick landmines and destroy barrels on your right with grenade, build turret between boxes and put landmine on it. Destroy barrels in front and the other ones from affar crouching to keep a good aim, build bunker, first batch of barrels you landed on should have respawned, keep building, dominate middle
Grinchy
Banned
Got a key, installed beta, got the "loading..." issue that many were describing in past pages. I guess I'll just make my own room and run around to check things out.
edit- Wow this is fucking cool! I'm just running around alone blowing shit up and building things, but this is going to be awesome I can tell. The jetpack feels very nice. The graphics aren't too shabby either, I was expecting worse. And the hawks are nice too. Just tried the space level. Can't wait to actually play this soon.
edit- Wow this is fucking cool! I'm just running around alone blowing shit up and building things, but this is going to be awesome I can tell. The jetpack feels very nice. The graphics aren't too shabby either, I was expecting worse. And the hawks are nice too. Just tried the space level. Can't wait to actually play this soon.
Stll one left?
weekend_warrior
Banned
If you like using mines try this- Throw 2 mines on the top of a hawk or the front of a razorback. Then look for an enemy in either a hawk or razorback. If you pass by them close enough the mines will actually jump from your vehicle to theirs, killing them.
You have to be careful though, if you get to close to a ground troop the mines will detonate but they'll stay on your vehicle and you'll get blown up.If you like using mines try this- Throw 2 mines on the top of a hawk or the front of a razorback. Then look for an enemy in either a hawk or razorback. If you pass by them close enough the mines will actually jump from your vehicle to theirs, killing them.
Awesome, have to try this out.
I hope Lightbox is super careful when rebalancing the hawks. When Warhawk first came out the planes were criticised as paper tigers. Then tactics & skill levels evolved & those once easy targets became abusive harbringers of death.
As it stands, a pilot with common sense & decent aim can nearly guarantee himself 3 ground kills in mech form with the homing missile pick up. Additionally, swarm missile stocks have been buffed up greatly. Although swarms are not as powerful as homers there is no doubt that with time pilots will develop extreme accuracy & effective methods in using them. Also, we should keep in mind we are not playing with the full arsenal.
I'm all for tweaks & rebalancing, I just hope Lightbox considers the potential skill ceiling willl probably get very high for this game. My gut says even if they left the Warhawk as is, by the end of they beta they would emerge as a dominating force.
As it stands, a pilot with common sense & decent aim can nearly guarantee himself 3 ground kills in mech form with the homing missile pick up. Additionally, swarm missile stocks have been buffed up greatly. Although swarms are not as powerful as homers there is no doubt that with time pilots will develop extreme accuracy & effective methods in using them. Also, we should keep in mind we are not playing with the full arsenal.
I'm all for tweaks & rebalancing, I just hope Lightbox considers the potential skill ceiling willl probably get very high for this game. My gut says even if they left the Warhawk as is, by the end of they beta they would emerge as a dominating force.
weekend_warrior
Banned
The big update is here!
onadesertedisland
Member
Just played on the neogaf server. Was pleased with the gameplay. I have high expectations.
Not crazy about the art, but the gameplay feels very "Warhawk" like.
Not crazy about the art, but the gameplay feels very "Warhawk" like.
Liberty4all
Banned
How is everyone getting a code? I was a huge warhawk fan and put hundreds of hours in but i haven't got one
Liberty4all
Banned
Sent you a PM, but in case you meant reply to your post, I would love a code!
The Return of
Banned
I'm late but if you have one left ...
Shit my bad I meant PM :/, if I come across any beta codes, you two will be the first I'll send them to.
weekend_warrior
Banned
TDM is great. Really opens the game up when people aren't just building giant fortresses. You also aren't hitting the 32 struture as quickly either.
Don't forget guys, Dylan Jobe (LBI president) will be on LIVE talking about the beta at 9pm Eastern (1 hour from now). Go HERE to listen.
Liberty4all
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Thanks Tguy
The Frankman
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MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Still sucks. Does a jetpack provide added armor? Spent forever shooting a guy and never killed him.
And fuck, knowing when I'm being shot at sucks. No feedback at all it seems and blue triangles seem to show up too late.
Hate this game so much. Why do I have to struggle to find weapons or vehicles? WHY?! FFS, man.
And fuck, knowing when I'm being shot at sucks. No feedback at all it seems and blue triangles seem to show up too late.
Hate this game so much. Why do I have to struggle to find weapons or vehicles? WHY?! FFS, man.
weekend_warrior
Banned
5 more minutes until the live podcast.
http://starhawkradio.com/blogs/2011/12/15/starhawkradio-episode-9-dylan-jobe-live
http://starhawkradio.com/blogs/2011/12/15/starhawkradio-episode-9-dylan-jobe-live
The Frankman
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Jetpack NEVER provided extra armor. Use a rocket launcher or fly after him to flush them out.
Wait, knowing that you're getting shot at is bad? Outside of the dang sniper laser that's a good thing. Dunno what you mean.
You're struggling in a pre-Beta to find shit. How many games have you played alone in a room where you just scoured every detail of the map in Warhawk just to see what is where? Because I did it plenty of times, and that was one of the 1st things I did in the Beta here. Hell, I still make solo rooms and try to chart/force potential bugs for Starhawk. Adapt or die, man. Right now people right now are in 7th heaven on the forums... why?
We're actually seeing dog-fighting in the TDM games. REAL DOG-FIGHTING. And think, we're still locked in the 16-max players thing. They have shown they're bringing back the old Warhawk flight style. They're working on the knife. They're working on a better aiming system (actually already tweaked it) and other fixes are on the way. Again, Dylan Jobe (who looks like a goddamn hipster from Scott Pilgrim or something) and Co. have shown they are very receptive about tweaking the product to suit vets and new players alike. Even though we know there are still alot of things we would like changed, the speed of the fixes and feedback of the devs make us (the community) feel like they're actively listening.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Oh shit he just gave a shoutout to Neogaf!
weekend_warrior
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Great podcast. Gave a lot of feedback and even I picked up a few pro-tips.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I meant the lack of knowing where, when and how I'm being shot at. Seems wonky.
And that's mostly what I do, play by myself. Still doesn't account for random depot placements. Map knowledge is almost useless. I get they're going for something unique but I hate it. Thought I'd like it but in practice, it truly sucks. Some may be ok with it but doesn't mean they're right =P.
But seriously, my interest in the online portion of Starhawk is nil. Nothing will beat the days of knowing where to find vehicles and weapons and capturing/defending bases. This just seems like a cheap knock-off trying something new but fails.
the_prime_mover
Member
Something I would like to see added is for the sniper tower, beam cannon and bunker to be linked to walls if placed next to a wall or if a wall is placed next to them. This would make builds more like a fortress and offer weaker points in the perimeter.
Melee also needs to be nerfed very soon. The lag and the hit range basically make melee a win button at the moment.
Rocket damage vs. Troopers should be reduced and jet packs should have the ability to drop off automatically at the cost of an instant overheat. Right now you can avoid one rocket lock, but there is no way to avoid the second.
Melee also needs to be nerfed very soon. The lag and the hit range basically make melee a win button at the moment.
Rocket damage vs. Troopers should be reduced and jet packs should have the ability to drop off automatically at the cost of an instant overheat. Right now you can avoid one rocket lock, but there is no way to avoid the second.
Now just fix the framerate Lightbox.
The Frankman
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The Take Out Bandit
Member
New update is a major improvement.
Unique weapon reticles, yay!
Although I'm having some issues with lock tone / locking onto enemies with homing missiles in a Hawk. Like it will lock on, then it will lock on again? @_@
Sounds like you're not even trying man.
How hard is it to memorize RE barrel locations, spawn near them and make a mad dash grenade run to get as much RE as possible, then setting up your own fortifications where you need them? It's easier than anything once you know the RE barrel layouts.
Drop a pod beacon, drop a supply depot, mine more RE, drop a garage, drop a hawk pad. Suddenly you're awash in your own amazing supplies! Maybe a few well placed sentry guns posted around there to swat away attackers.
Do or do not, there is no BAWWWW!
I started off hating this damned thing, but over the past week I've been staying up until 3/5AM playing the f*cking thing. It's getting better, quickly.
Unique weapon reticles, yay!
Although I'm having some issues with lock tone / locking onto enemies with homing missiles in a Hawk. Like it will lock on, then it will lock on again? @_@
Sounds like you're not even trying man.
How hard is it to memorize RE barrel locations, spawn near them and make a mad dash grenade run to get as much RE as possible, then setting up your own fortifications where you need them? It's easier than anything once you know the RE barrel layouts.
Drop a pod beacon, drop a supply depot, mine more RE, drop a garage, drop a hawk pad. Suddenly you're awash in your own amazing supplies! Maybe a few well placed sentry guns posted around there to swat away attackers.
Do or do not, there is no BAWWWW!
I started off hating this damned thing, but over the past week I've been staying up until 3/5AM playing the f*cking thing. It's getting better, quickly.
Grinchy
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I've played so much TF2 lately that it's really difficult to play this. I feel like I can't aim. I'm assuming that's because I need to get used to playing a shooter on a console again. I tried sniping and I couldn't have been less useful.
I really like the building element though.
I really like the building element though.
weekend_warrior
Banned
fun times in the gaf server. so many bad players to farm.
The Frankman
Banned
You're judging players in a pre-beta? Most of us are just testing shit, others probably won't even buy the game.