ShockingAlberto
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Would genuinely not be surprised if Capcom bought them.
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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Would genuinely not be surprised if Capcom bought them.
The hell is it with you and Spark Unlimited?
GameplayWhore
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naw dawg, I'm flyin free as a bird
lol. you don't know my posting history
Man oh man.
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I absolutely do not have a problem with Nintendo launching with a 2D Mario. It's an exceedingly good business move, no matter how much I'd prefer a HD 3D title.
I would have a problem with them maintaining the same artstyle and soundtrack as the other two NSMBs, though. They are launching a HD console, and frankly I don't give a shit if they're aiming for a wider audience; if the game is showcased at E3 this year looking like it did last year, then they are treating their audience with utter contempt. I don't often agree with the whole Nintendo are lazily rehashing their IP argument, but shitting out a NSMB with Miis crowbarred in and token running on the pad is the dictionary definition of the practice.
Somebody in Nintendo's PR had their head screwed on right when they dropped Pikmin 3 at E3 into the discussion, because I'd be feeling really sour about Nintendo at the moment otherwise.
I would have a problem with them maintaining the same artstyle and soundtrack as the other two NSMBs, though. They are launching a HD console, and frankly I don't give a shit if they're aiming for a wider audience; if the game is showcased at E3 this year looking like it did last year, then they are treating their audience with utter contempt. I don't often agree with the whole Nintendo are lazily rehashing their IP argument, but shitting out a NSMB with Miis crowbarred in and token running on the pad is the dictionary definition of the practice.
Somebody in Nintendo's PR had their head screwed on right when they dropped Pikmin 3 at E3 into the discussion, because I'd be feeling really sour about Nintendo at the moment otherwise.
It's mixed. It has both positive and negative stuff in there.
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Kacho
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What if it came as a pack-in?
Very good post.
lol. you don't know my posting history
I'll assume that's what the gun represents :lol
GameplayWhore
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I would be highly amused if the 3D Mario game ended up being absolutely stellar, completely beautiful, with a billion polygons per microsecond, full screen 32x anti-aliasing, impossible water effects, super tesselation, incredible lighting but in 480p, just to piss of a few people.
GameplayWhore
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Yeah, I noticed upon reading that Pachter actually did pipe in. And it was indeed a negative comment. So Nintendo is saved. Whew, dodged a bullet there!
GameplayWhore
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That link does not say anything about the Wii U. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Although it would be highly irregular for Nintendo, who has never (to my recollection) made a multiplat game, there have been some pretty decent cases made on these threads suggesting how Nintendo could conceivably do it in the "Nintendo Way".
For a short time, I gave Amir0x so much shit back when he was a crazed, rampaging mod that terrorized these boards. To this day I have no clue whatsoever why he never perma'd me when he dropped that ban hammer on many others for a lot less. He was kind enough to give me a warning though before I started to back off a bit
Anywho, concerning the GI article, it just further cements my theory that analysts are never, ever privy to pertinent information apart from sales and statistics that isn't widely available to the public. They get paid to think, and their collective thoughts predictably tend to be a mixed bag, some being thoughtful or interesting and others not so much. But nothing I've ever read by an industry analyst has ever convinced me I should pay more attention to their musings than say any given insightful post by a stranger on a message board.
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I'd rather pay for a quality experience than be given a shoddy one.
Mario games are good games, and Nintendo sullies the work they've done with the brand if they attempt to pass this style off again.
Did I miss the 3D Mario Experience from last E3 that this game's based on then?
You know, 2D Mario being shown wouldn't mean we can't get to see the next 3D Mario, I think it'll be like E3 2009 where they showed both NSMB Wii and SMG 2.
So should we start speculating as to what their list of Wii U games at E3 will look like? I think they'll try to show as many big games as they possibly can, so:
New Super Mario Bros. Mii
Pikmin 3
Retro's Game
Monster's Game
another Project M Metroid
Eternal Darkness 2 (considering SK talk of making the most asked for sequel)
Wii U Sports
Wii U Fit
Good Feel's next game
Super Mario Wii U (EAD Tokyo)
And if we're really lucky, Nintendo might decide to show a CG trailer of SSB4, I think they could get someone to put together a trailer similar to the Brawl trailer at E3 2006, not showing any gameplay, just new characters to build up hype. It's unlikely, but I wouldn't say impossible.
Also, what if the Super Mario 4 trademark is for the next 3D Mario?
Either way I think their line-up is going to be very impressive at E3.
So should we start speculating as to what their list of Wii U games at E3 will look like? I think they'll try to show as many big games as they possibly can, so:
New Super Mario Bros. Mii
Pikmin 3
Retro's Game
Monster's Game
another Project M Metroid
Eternal Darkness 2 (considering SK talk of making the most asked for sequel)
Wii U Sports
Wii U Fit
Good Feel's next game
Super Mario Wii U (EAD Tokyo)
And if we're really lucky, Nintendo might decide to show a CG trailer of SSB4, I think they could get someone to put together a trailer similar to the Brawl trailer at E3 2006, not showing any gameplay, just new characters to build up hype. It's unlikely, but I wouldn't say impossible.
Also, what if the Super Mario 4 trademark is for the next 3D Mario?
Either way I think their line-up is going to be very impressive at E3.
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Zavvi (UK online Retailer) may have possibly leaked the European Wii U launch date:
Friday 16 November 2012.
http://techtroid.co.uk/wii-u-launch-date-leaked-8847
Friday 16 November 2012.
http://techtroid.co.uk/wii-u-launch-date-leaked-8847
NinjaTehFish
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You are one lucky bastard man, from what I've heard about him.
I simply think it (the 3DS version) will be a new spin. I can't see Nintendo pulling off these strange co-dependent pairs for more than Smash Bros.
C'mon son, retailers do this all the time. Didn't a Spanish site post one a few days ago too?
nckillthegrimace
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I've been thinking the same for a while now, but I think the next DK will be on 3DS, not Wii U.
1. It was alright, but it looked like shit and the music wasn't all good.
2. Not really, but I can think of several titles I would rather have at launch.
3. Never played Pikmin, so I don't know.
4. True. People shouldn't be overreacting until after E3.
If I was a video game retailer I'd post pre-orders like this to get more people to pre-order. The more that pre-order the more potential sells. If I was an obscure online retailer this might be a huge sales increase.
BTW, I like the new avatar.
Even a staunch detractor of the game like myself wouldn't say it actually looked "shit" in terms of graphics. Moreso the style, which I'm sure is what you meant.
That's what I meant. Sorry for not being clear.
It looked sterile...which was fine for the masses it seems but disappointing for a lot of people who have been regularly playing mario games for years.
The problem was that the art style seemed more than serviceable on a small handheld screen but just felt underwhelming on a TV. I think there's a 50/50 chance it'll be visually distinct from what we saw at E3 if it's a retail game. If it turns out to be a pack in, it'll probably remain unchanged and few people will really care at all because hey! It's free!
I think a lot of people get their panties in a bunch because they know they'll want to play a new mario game but they just don't want to pay for it if it looks as visually un-stimulating as previous NSMB titles. Personally, I'm hoping it's a pack in and we see a trailer for a 3D mario slated for next year.
Yeah. It's just sort of weird that we got a (lovely) kick in the keisters with SMG 1&2, and then suddenly the company that is made out to be the Willy Wonka factory of games is... sort of pulling an Activision.
If NSMB is Nintendo's causal franchise and Nintendo has no intention of that changing, I can accept that. Like you said, I'll be happy if we see 3D Mario concepts or screens, because we know that is intended for us.
Mhm, I was just kind of trying to combo break Weevil's news links, hehe.
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Who makes the NSMB games? EAD1, right? Those guys need a kick up the arse, because I swear all the serious talent is in Tokyo. God I hope Tokyo are working on something great for Wii U.
Naaaaah. The only way I can see the Wii U being that price range is if "TEH HARDWARE IZN'T POWURFUL." Nintendo's not going to sell the thing at a loss, nor is it going to pull a "five-hundred and ninety-nine dollars".
IceDoesntHelp
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Hahaha...oh god.
If anything it'll be released a couple months after launch. I really don't see it being a launch title.
GameplayWhore
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Yay, my killer app has been optimized for the NeoGAF architecture. Turns out when you customize your software specifically for a platform, performance dramatically increases!
It's the 17th now (UTC), so I figured that I should pop up the new and improved version showing the results for the last day, which was the highest performing day for a non-launch Wii U Speculation Thread ever! Thankfully, it bested the previous high, which I believe was the terrible one filled almost entirely with not actually funny animated pictures and fake news stories that got people
well, person
So, anyway, this is following a fairly Nintendo path. Thread 1 is like the Gameboy, which sold well but at a generally sub-gangbuster level for an eternity. Thread 3 is the GBA, which started out massively but had a short life. Thread 4 is the DS, which started out weaker than its predecessor but rapidly attained Beast Mode and never looked back!
NB: Thread 1 actually lasted 210 days, but the chart would look really scrunched if I included that whole time.
Also, don't read this if you have power over man and beast:
Guess which thread isn't locked yet?
AceBandage
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I have no idea why you're doing these, but I love them.
Yay, my killer app has been optimized for the NeoGAF architecture. Turns out when you customize your software specifically for a platform, performance dramatically increases!
It's the 17th now (UTC), so I figured that I should pop up the new and improved version showing the results for the last day, which was the highest performing day for a non-launch Wii U Speculation Thread ever! Thankfully, it bested the previous high, which I believe was the terrible one filled almost entirely with not actually funny animated pictures and fake news stories that got peoplebanned. So we can feel a bit more confident in ourselves as we push onward!well, person
So, anyway, this is following a fairly Nintendo path. Thread 1 is like the Gameboy, which sold well but at a generally sub-gangbuster level for an eternity. Thread 3 is the GBA, which started out massively but had a short life. Thread 4 is the DS, which started out weaker than its predecessor but rapidly attained Beast Mode and never looked back!
NB: Thread 1 actually lasted 210 days, but the chart would look really scrunched if I included that whole time.
Also, don't read this if you have power over man and beast:Guess which thread isn't locked yet?
GameplayWhore
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Wii U Speculation Threads have their own fanbase now. We're not just Nintendo fans anymore.
he's trying to learn new ways to hack into GAF
EAD 4, who also makes Pikmin. So one of the franchises had to be moved to a different group.
DragonSworne
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Can Neogaf ban gameindustry.biz if the WiiU CPU and GPU are more powerful than Xbox360 and PS3?
The shit storm their rumors have caused can't go unpunished...
The shit storm their rumors have caused can't go unpunished...
AceBandage
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Not how it works.
Apophis2036
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Bad imo.
I expected NSMB Mii to be either a launch game or to be bundled free with the system so it's no suprise to me and im sure most of you.
Pikman isn't a big enough first party game to launch a new console to the 'hardcore' imho, sure they are great games and Pikman 3 is a welcome addition esp as part of a strong launch line up.
If they don't have a 3D Mario or a new Zelda game then only Smash Bros, Starfox, Metroid, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong or F-Zero are big enough exclusive IP's to launch the Wii U imo.
Nintendo said Wii U is for the casual AND the hardcore tho so they will see NSMB Mii as the casual game and Pikman for the hardcore.
If there is not one of the above big exclusive IP's available at least in the launch window (before 2013) then i won't be buying the console at launch only to complete Pikman 3 and then play third party games which i can already play on my 360.
Hot Coldman
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That would be a dumb reason to ban a site. It's not like they made it up, it's rumors.
GameplayWhore
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Nah, the classic methods are still fine.
...I mean, NOTHING! I said nothing!
*hides from wrath of mod*
So, anyway, this is following a fairly Nintendo path. Thread 1 is like the Gameboy, which sold well but at a generally sub-gangbuster level for an eternity. Thread 3 is the GBA, which started out massively but had a short life. Thread 4 is the DS, which started out weaker than its predecessor but rapidly attained Beast Mode and never looked back!
I like this part; underdog, we're bringing it back etc. I've grown to like this thread after all.
Also, hi lurkers. We see you lurkin' there.
IceDoesntHelp
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Yay, my killer app has been optimized for the NeoGAF architecture. Turns out when you customize your software specifically for a platform, performance dramatically increases!
It's the 17th now (UTC), so I figured that I should pop up the new and improved version showing the results for the last day, which was the highest performing day for a non-launch Wii U Speculation Thread ever! Thankfully, it bested the previous high, which I believe was the terrible one filled almost entirely with not actually funny animated pictures and fake news stories that got peoplebanned. So we can feel a bit more confident in ourselves as we push onward!well, person
So, anyway, this is following a fairly Nintendo path. Thread 1 is like the Gameboy, which sold well but at a generally sub-gangbuster level for an eternity. Thread 3 is the GBA, which started out massively but had a short life. Thread 4 is the DS, which started out weaker than its predecessor but rapidly attained Beast Mode and never looked back!
NB: Thread 1 actually lasted 210 days, but the chart would look really scrunched if I included that whole time.
Also, don't read this if you have power over man and beast:Guess which thread isn't locked yet?
You're not helping my headache man, wait..didn't thread 4 go off like a bomb, or am I incorrect?
I took a nap, and it was already 8 pages in when I woke up sooo...
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