Zoramon089
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And the numerous Xbox to PC ports, but I guess PC isn't a "system"
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Dead Rising may give 360 more Capcom-games?
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Beer Monkey
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'Only on Xbox' or 'Only on 360' badging alone doesn't guarantee anything more than a timed exclusive and never has. The third-party games that say 'Only on 360' are likely tied up in agreements where the publisher/developer agree to not release a port for a year or so and to not talk about future ports for some other period. I wouldn't expect Capcom to confirm any Dead Rising port before January.
Ghengis Cohen
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Not really. And you mean Monster Hunter right?rastex said:
Ghengis Cohen
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Well of course it makes sense there. But to say something is fair game for porting doesn't really factor in the agreements that go into these decisions.Speevy said:
theREBELins
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I certainly hope more of the high profile games go multiplatform, only because I'm not willing to buy a PS3 for those games.
I would hope that every game not nailed down with a first party publishing contract goes multiplatform, and then even a few of those, too. Heck, port Halo 3 to PS3, for all I care. Multiplatformism should rise so multiconsolism can die. $400 for Xbox 360 and $600 for PS3 is about $700 (combined) too much to play games. If we can't have a one console future, then an "every game everywhere" strategy is a good enough alternative.
*mini-diatribe spurred by the multiconsole thread
*mini-diatribe spurred by the multiconsole thread
C- Warrior
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Alright....
1) Sales vs. shipped means the same thing to a publisher. Sell in vs. sell through, no difference as LONG AS the numbers aren't drastically different.
2) I want exclusives. I have a 360, I plan on getting a PS3 when DMC4/MGS4 come out. You know, a 360 game made for it and only it is going to look better as opposed to it being developed for multiple consoles. Same applies with PS3. And being that many here will end up being multi-console owners, does it really all that matter -- all we have to do is pop one HD-DVD in one console, and move another few inches to pop a Blu-Ray into another console. Not a problem for us.
3) Exclusives games from Capcom: (CONSOLE)
1) Onimusha 2
2) Onimusha 3
3) Onimusha 4
4) Devil May Cry
5) Devil May Cry 2
6) Devil May Cry 3
7) Demento
8) Resident Evil File 1
9) Resident Evil FIle 2
10) Resident Evil Dead Aim
11) PN03
12) Okami
13) Resident Evil Remake
14) Resident Evil 0
15) Those Megaman games... >.> the x's n' shit I don't know
16) Monster Hunter
17) Monster Hunter dos
18) Monster Hunter 2
19) Megaman Powered up
20) Viewtiful Joe Double Trouble
21) Dino Crisis 3
22) Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter
23) Chaos Legion
*and many others I just can't think of...right now...*
1) Sales vs. shipped means the same thing to a publisher. Sell in vs. sell through, no difference as LONG AS the numbers aren't drastically different.
2) I want exclusives. I have a 360, I plan on getting a PS3 when DMC4/MGS4 come out. You know, a 360 game made for it and only it is going to look better as opposed to it being developed for multiple consoles. Same applies with PS3. And being that many here will end up being multi-console owners, does it really all that matter -- all we have to do is pop one HD-DVD in one console, and move another few inches to pop a Blu-Ray into another console. Not a problem for us.
3) Exclusives games from Capcom: (CONSOLE)
1) Onimusha 2
2) Onimusha 3
3) Onimusha 4
4) Devil May Cry
5) Devil May Cry 2
6) Devil May Cry 3
7) Demento
8) Resident Evil File 1
9) Resident Evil FIle 2
10) Resident Evil Dead Aim
11) PN03
12) Okami
13) Resident Evil Remake
14) Resident Evil 0
15) Those Megaman games... >.> the x's n' shit I don't know
16) Monster Hunter
17) Monster Hunter dos
18) Monster Hunter 2
19) Megaman Powered up
20) Viewtiful Joe Double Trouble
21) Dino Crisis 3
22) Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter
23) Chaos Legion
*and many others I just can't think of...right now...*
SolidSnakex
Member
cvxfreak said:
Which doesn't mean much. DMC has always been exclusive to Sony platforms. Even when Dante and other DMC characters appear in mutliplatform games they're exclusive to the Sony versions of those games.
C- Warrior
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cvxfreak said:
i did say console exclusive games.
Doom_Bringer
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I pretty sure Sony has DMC locked down otherwise Capcom/Sony wouldn't have shown it at E3 2005.
Ghengis Cohen
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I should have said not neccesarily. Oftentimes there is a contract in place to keep games completely exclusive to one console, so ports are often times not fair game at all.rastex said:
Last gen, good sales for Gamecube and Xbox games just meant a PS2 port was coming. Maybe they (many other japanese developers) figured, "If a game did that well on that small of a userbase, imagine what it'll on a much larger one." Unfortunately, that never seemed to happen going the other direction.
If Dead Rising really does well then expect a PS3 version. The 360 game's success won't mean more exclusive from Capcom, it'll just mean that the system won't be a shunned as the Xbox was by Capcom.
If Dead Rising really does well then expect a PS3 version. The 360 game's success won't mean more exclusive from Capcom, it'll just mean that the system won't be a shunned as the Xbox was by Capcom.
True but they're going to bet on the PS3 first. If that doesn't work out, Capcom will go with Wii. If that doesn't work out, then PS2... then PSP... then DS...then GBA... and finally 360.Speevy said:
And in Japan the PS3 will have a larger userbase before the system launches jsut from broken street date sales.
JJConrad said:
Okay, well if Capcom wants to develop a next generation high budget game, there's only two options.
And Capcom sales on Nintendo platforms. I'd like to read about that. Capcom put Steel Battalion, Genma Onimusha, and a bunch of ports on the Xbox. Any M-rated game, especially Devil May Cry is far more suited to the Xbox 360 than any Nintendo platform.
Heck, I can't even believe you'd name the PSP.
Forceatowulf
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Luckyman said:
thehighlight
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DMC 360 FTMFW
As a japanese company, Capcom will look to the 360 last. They are placing their bets on the Playstation. As they did with the PSP over the DS, they will do with the PS3 over the 360 moreso. The 360 will never be their primary platform. If they think its benefitial to release Dead Rising on the PS3 then they will. However, when a PS3 title does exceptionally, don't count on a 360 version to follow. The best hope for the 360 is more multi-platform releases, not more exclusives or even ports .Speevy said:
I assume you meant "next generation big-budget game." You act as if companies aren't allowed to spend money making Wii games. Also remember that Capcom put Resident Evil exclusive to Gamecube and did fairly well with it. So an M-rating may not mean anything.
I didn't say it would be their primary platform, but in terms of next generation games, it should be in consideration for these games. Xbox sales for nearly every third party publisher destroyed their Gamecube counterparts, and the demographic fits. Heck, this entire thread is about how Capcom is pleased with Dead Rising sales.
Given the choice between making a 360 version of <insert Capcom M-rated game> and a Wii version, well the results from this past generation speak for themselves.
Given the choice between making a 360 version of <insert Capcom M-rated game> and a Wii version, well the results from this past generation speak for themselves.
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JJConrad said:
Which explains why they looked to them first...
Are you forgetting who this is? Not all 3rd party publishers did better on the Xbox than Gamecube. Most japanese publishers did better on Gamecube, including Capcom. Capcom has not been all that shy about putting M rated games on Nintendo systems. Don't throw out out blanket statements about demographics and 3rd party sales on Nintendo platforms when it does not apply to the company at hand.Speevy said:
Capcom is clearly testing the waters with these games. If they do well... GREAT!! However, this more likely means that Capcom won't completely scrapped the 360 version of RE5, than it does Capcom making a 360 version of DMC4. They still support the PSP over the DS and wouldn't port over their Mega Man X games to the GCN despite everything you said about 360 applying then. They tested the Xbox and brushed it off. They're testing the 360 now and may very well do the same. Even if they don't, you're setting yourself up for a let down be hoping for great support.
Beer Monkey
Member
JJConrad said:
Here's the big question. After spending huge nextgen dollars on creating assets from character models to textures and level designs and sound/music, along with other totally portable game elements like animation scripting, AI algorithms, and cutscenes, and you do the majority of your development on the PC, why on earth would you not port all of your 360 stuff to the PS3 and vice versa? In the absense of a moneyhat, of course.
SolidSnakex
Member
beermonkey@tehbias said:
If there's no money hats involved then the games probably will be ported to other systems. But those will still be handed out and you'll still gets exclusives, including those from Capcom.
To me, it would make the most sense for Capcom to port Lost Planet to the PS3. I could see that game doing pretty good in Japan because of Byung Hun Lee's involvement, and the 360 unfortunately just doesn't have the installed base to allow that there. I'll be much more surprised if they don't port LP than if they don't port Dead Rising.
I think we might see a Lost Planet port first next year, around summer or so, and then, if they do decide to do a Dead Rising port as well, we'll see that in the fall, with some extras in the vein of Genma Onimusha or Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams on the Xbox.
I think we might see a Lost Planet port first next year, around summer or so, and then, if they do decide to do a Dead Rising port as well, we'll see that in the fall, with some extras in the vein of Genma Onimusha or Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams on the Xbox.
I don't think last gen sets up the best comparable dynamic for the coming one though. GameCube and Xbox didn't see most successful PS2 games ported mainly because their bases were a fifth the size... a better comparison for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 might be the relationship between MegaDrive/Genesis and Super Famicom/Super NES. Both dynamics showing compelling western competitors while one utterly fails in Japan.JJConrad said:
Capcom, in particular among Japanese publishers, isn't going to ignore a strong western fanbase who's responded well to their wares. Their biggest games will again be multiplatform (SF2 meet RE5), but they'll still have targeted exclusives here and there. Dead Rising's performance though forecasts nothing but good for the platform in terms of Capcom's support, make no mistake. Sure it doesn't indicate PS3 will lose all it's exlcusives, but it hardly ensures 360 losing it's own either.
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Actually you're wrong, I don't have the text of it handy (someone else posted it in a different thread) but the language of the "Only on Xbox 360" tag applies to total exclusives on the platform. Timed exclusives are not allowed to have the "Only on..." logo, it's actually in the branding language.
Ghengis Cohen
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That's what I thought as well.arne said:
Edit: Holy Shit that didn't help the discussion at all. I need some ****ing sleep.
Beer Monkey
Member
arne said:
I stand corrected. The 'Only on Xbox' tag was certainly different, there are at least two or three titles that went elsewhere after a period of time. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm assuming that the language would block something like 'Dead Rising: SE' with a larger mall.