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Cyberpunk 2077 trailer coming out [Thursday]
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Technology is moving pretty fast, look at our phones
Seriously though, DARPA and Boston Dynamics are already full steam ahead on the robo-animals front.
That being said, I really hope this has a Blade Runner esque soundtrack, or at least something really synth heavy.
BigTnaples
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haha.
Yeah, they have a huge following right now that they would completely abandon going to consoles only.
They are right where they need to be.
This isn't supposed to turn in a "The Witcher 2 looks garbage" thread. It doesn't and it looks fine and I think Cyberpunk 2077 will look absolutely fine. I just hope they improve on the things that other games have done better when it comes to tech. The same way other games can learn from TW2.
TW2 being disappointing to me was purely an expectation thing where I was constantly told that it looks a full generational leap beyond what is currently on consoles and that's not what I personally got out of it.
(Again: I don't think it's because they are incapable of producing that, I think at some point budget is playing a role.)
Now I have different expectations and I hope for a more open world with less invisible walls with improved animations.
ChosenPredator
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Anyone have mockups of what are normal handgun would look like in 2077...curious how realistic they will go
It also wouldn't make sense for a company with a popular digital PC games store, to go console exclusive.
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It also wouldn't make sense for a company with a popular digital PC games store, to go console exclusive.
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He's even wearing a pair of those Google visors.
Also agree with others on really feeling the logo.
This is very old interview(i just discovered) and mostly unknown (right after they announced C2077) it's in Polish so not a lot of people know about it and this is interview like no other meaning nerd interviewer talks to nerd dev.
My translation of most important parts (i am not native ENG so sorry for spelling):
- both of them, interviewer and dev played themselves a lot Cyberpunk so all below are just two people who know things talking with each-other without PR or what is RPG journalistism approach.
- They talk a lot about setting. They are creating it strictly with Mike and it is not just shoddy work for game but this may end up in new PnP game if he (mike) decide to do one. As of timeline 2077 will be ingame time but all years 2020 included will be taken into account. Because of that they need to upgrade few things like 2020 future phones having max 20 people numbers, which was at time of creation 90' assumption which ultimately ended up totally false. Though this will be just update for things that just look out of place in their timeline. Also using 2077 doesn't mean that 2021-2076 didn't exist so Mike creates all lore and what happened between 2020 and 2077.
- As of game mechanics it will be direct direct implementation, not their own system. So expect same implementation of Cyberpunk system like BG,IW,PST did with 2nd AD&D system. There will be thing which will be changed because it is a game not PnP much like BG1/2 system changed but they want Cyberpunk system as their main gameplay with full implication of that. Which means that like in original Cyberpunk2020 talking stealing negotiating is most of the time more effective than shooting someone. Mike is directly involved in all above work to guarantee that they won't fuck it up. It usually goes like this: gameplay problem -> developer idea -> mike brainstorm with devs -> final output. Also they state that balanced some OP character classes.
- As of climate of game. They want Cyberpunk soul in their game. So things like Running on the edge, soul in machine and motives like that will be core aspect of Cyberpunk 2077.
- Game will be sandbox type. YES a sandbox game with right now confirmed night city without confirmation of other places. City will integrate some of most iconic places (like "Afterlife" club) but scale is yet unknown. When he was asked about how sandbox model. He said it is sandbox sandbox. So not sanbox instanced between acts like TW2. Sandbox like Fallout1/2/3 Skyrim etc.
- Interviewer (lol at this): "So it's like Fallout by Obsidian earlier Black Isle ? I'm not mentioning Betsheda because they can't do RPGs at all.
- Character creation will be up to player. So robust customization and main prot. is not predefined like Geralt.
My translation of most important parts (i am not native ENG so sorry for spelling):
- both of them, interviewer and dev played themselves a lot Cyberpunk so all below are just two people who know things talking with each-other without PR or what is RPG journalistism approach.
- They talk a lot about setting. They are creating it strictly with Mike and it is not just shoddy work for game but this may end up in new PnP game if he (mike) decide to do one. As of timeline 2077 will be ingame time but all years 2020 included will be taken into account. Because of that they need to upgrade few things like 2020 future phones having max 20 people numbers, which was at time of creation 90' assumption which ultimately ended up totally false. Though this will be just update for things that just look out of place in their timeline. Also using 2077 doesn't mean that 2021-2076 didn't exist so Mike creates all lore and what happened between 2020 and 2077.
- As of game mechanics it will be direct direct implementation, not their own system. So expect same implementation of Cyberpunk system like BG,IW,PST did with 2nd AD&D system. There will be thing which will be changed because it is a game not PnP much like BG1/2 system changed but they want Cyberpunk system as their main gameplay with full implication of that. Which means that like in original Cyberpunk2020 talking stealing negotiating is most of the time more effective than shooting someone. Mike is directly involved in all above work to guarantee that they won't fuck it up. It usually goes like this: gameplay problem -> developer idea -> mike brainstorm with devs -> final output. Also they state that balanced some OP character classes.
- As of climate of game. They want Cyberpunk soul in their game. So things like Running on the edge, soul in machine and motives like that will be core aspect of Cyberpunk 2077.
- Game will be sandbox type. YES a sandbox game with right now confirmed night city without confirmation of other places. City will integrate some of most iconic places (like "Afterlife" club) but scale is yet unknown. When he was asked about how sandbox model. He said it is sandbox sandbox. So not sanbox instanced between acts like TW2. Sandbox like Fallout1/2/3 Skyrim etc.
- Interviewer (lol at this): "So it's like Fallout by Obsidian earlier Black Isle ? I'm not mentioning Betsheda because they can't do RPGs at all.
- Character creation will be up to player. So robust customization and main prot. is not predefined like Geralt.
lol.
Well Atari is happy to publish CDPR games, and now with GoG CDPR is sort of the second Valve. They are self-publishing Cyperpunk from what I have seen. I really hope they stay independent.
Technically they are a subsidiary of cdp.pl Sp. z o.o. which is similar to Bethesday and Zenimax
Sentenza
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Well, he's right.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Geralt's hair. And his low resolution naked body in the prologue.
A game of endless night with wet streets. I dig.
Dunno if i'm alone in hoping for this, but I really want them to lower the number of side quests available, and make the ones that are included, interesting and diverse.
One of my biggest dislikes about current day RPGs is that they seem to inundate you with sidequests...to the point that you just get too sidetracked from the main story.
One of my biggest dislikes about current day RPGs is that they seem to inundate you with sidequests...to the point that you just get too sidetracked from the main story.
They can add as many as they can as long as each one is flushed out and worth while.
As of sandbox i think they may go with :
A Fallout1/2 approach so there will be places that you can freely move in like cities in Fallout1/2 and when you move between them you are on map of city (maybe some random encouters ?) This approach really help with delivering more focused content and you don't need mindblowing budget for asset creation.
B Bloodlines approach. My favorite. Render a lot of city giving you chance to explore it more but make points of interest very close to each other.
There is C option (full render of city) but we know it is almost impossible from design and budget side)
Option A favors top down/isometric perspective (to deliver vast spaces without including smaller details)
Option B favors TPP/FPP approach and by far can deliver most focused story and gameplay (much like TW2 did)
A Fallout1/2 approach so there will be places that you can freely move in like cities in Fallout1/2 and when you move between them you are on map of city (maybe some random encouters ?) This approach really help with delivering more focused content and you don't need mindblowing budget for asset creation.
B Bloodlines approach. My favorite. Render a lot of city giving you chance to explore it more but make points of interest very close to each other.
There is C option (full render of city) but we know it is almost impossible from design and budget side)
Option A favors top down/isometric perspective (to deliver vast spaces without including smaller details)
Option B favors TPP/FPP approach and by far can deliver most focused story and gameplay (much like TW2 did)
Sentenza
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Can't say I agree at all. Well, not entirely at least.
On one side, the more sidequests the better. I don't care if they go even widely far from the main plot as long as they are fun and engaging and involve a lot of NPC/world interaction.
On the other hand, sidequests seem to be a lost art for many RPG developers these days, with very few exceptions (Piranha Bytes, to name one).
I mean, if they must be trivial and boring like those in Mass Effect 3, Kingdom of Amalur or Skyrim, of course I can do without them.
They did that already with TW1-->TW2 They droped all stupid quests and leaved only handfull of noticeboard quests. Sidequest fot buffed up and even simple killing mobs (like nekkers) include something more than kill xx of mob. In nakkers case blowing up their nests.
Sentenza
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Well, that was a start to not make them completely dumb, but let's aim a bit higher than that.
They can do better. Others already did better.
Yeah thats pretty much what I was going for. Witcher 2 was a big improvement, so I guess there really isnt much to worry about.
They already did it as i said. Almost all side quests are fully fleshed quests not just another bring me x something.
OOOOODRIIIIIINNNNN.
O missed in TW2 quests from TW1 which involved drinking (especially old hag)
Sentenza
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Yeah, I know what they did. I played the game myself.
I'm saying it's not enough.
Beside, not everything they ditched was for the better.
I guess the trailer is hitting Thursday.
http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2013/01/07/prepare-yourselves-for-cyberpunk-2077/
I guess the trailer is hitting Thursday.
http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2013/01/07/prepare-yourselves-for-cyberpunk-2077/
I guess the trailer is hitting Thursday.
http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2013/01/07/prepare-yourselves-for-cyberpunk-2077/
Cool design for the gun. Kind of modern with a sci Fi twist.
Ciastek3214
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Alright then, brace yourselves.
Ciastek3214
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Platige Image, ffs.
Hahah yeah.
Seeing how the game is still early in development, I think it'll probably be a CG trailer. I wouldn't mind a CG trailer too much anyway, as I'd like to see what the game's world will be like.
Power Glove
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Has CDPR shown only CG trailers in the past? I honestly don't know.
I guess the trailer is hitting Thursday.
http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2013/01/07/prepare-yourselves-for-cyberpunk-2077/
CG trailers are generally quite expensive for them relative to budget, so I don't think they would put one out this early.
I'd expect something ingame, but only of a cutscene nature.
But TW2 didn't even have that many side quests?
I guess the trailer is hitting Thursday.
http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2013/01/07/prepare-yourselves-for-cyberpunk-2077/
Glad to have a date to look forward to.
Still something is better than nothing, especially, before E3.
Yeah my money is on that too, first The Witcher 2 debut trailer was a compilation of ingame cutscenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4c1d0nRzWY
Bit soon for gameplay, yeah, but also probably too soon for them to spend big on CGI. Not sure what to expect, but I'm still hyped as hell.
You are right. I assume this game will release in 2015 though and it's so far away.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-17-witcher-devs-two-2014-2015-aaa-games-are-simultaneous-pc-next-gen-console-releases
nope. Gameplay trailers are rare. More like ingame cinematics trailer much like The Witcher 2 did with trailers:
Hope
Disdain & Fear
World of The Witcher
All above are mindblowing. I hope they will create awesome C77 trailer.
Agent Ironside
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I guess the trailer is hitting Thursday.
http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2013/01/07/prepare-yourselves-for-cyberpunk-2077/
Looks like that gun is modeled in the game engine to me. No CG, please no.
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