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Mario Kart 64 on VC: Framerate improved?
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DIrtyWeasel
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I havent played it, but I heard it's a consistent 30fps.
underfooter
Banned
Ya I played it, it feels a lot smoother in multiplayer. Definitely a great grab.
I honestly can't remember Mario KArt 64 having framerate issues. But then, I played Goldeneye and Perfect Dark a lot too, and thought they were fine - back in the day whne I didn't care.
What I want to know is if bowsers castle speed on three player (and a number of others) is still super fast. GOd, that made the game so cool.
What I want to know is if bowsers castle speed on three player (and a number of others) is still super fast. GOd, that made the game so cool.
EphemeralDream
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mrkgoo said:
I wasn't too sensitive to framerate back in the day either but I think it even chugged during the score results in Grand Prix.
Phife Dawg
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Haven't tried 4 Player yet but it's a definite improvement in terms of clarity and framerate thus far.
akachan ningen
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Both MK DS and Double Dash are better.
_Alkaline_
Member
The framerate has definitely been improved, though for some reason on multiplayer Moo Moo Farm it goes really, really fast.
I've gotten some frame droppage in some 4-player situations. Moo Moo Farm (and Skyscraper-which went too fast in the original on 4P) go really fast though. So perhaps we're just remembering wrong? Or maybe they smoothed it out somewhat but not completely?Though I'll say, the Ice/penguin level looks almost DC/PS2-level greatness with the reflective surfaces in high rez! 
That said, the wave-samples sound more compressed than the original (more than I remember) and is in stark contrast to the crisp midi music.
That said, the wave-samples sound more compressed than the original (more than I remember) and is in stark contrast to the crisp midi music.MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
Nash said:Where's SNES MK
they want to release the shit MKs first.
hopefully SMK gets a little upgrade too. Do away with the ****ing PAL borders and increase the speed to NSTC levels
the androgyne
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SMK still has the best battle mode. Where MK64 shines is 2p with CPU, and time trial. This is where it blows DKR out of the water Can't argue with standing the test of time, DKR died for me when i finished that 1p mode. If only MK64 kept stats of how long me and my friend had played through timetrial, it would be astronomical and embarrassing!
4p mode is probably the best in MK64 or equal with MKDS.
Can't argue with standing the test of time, DKR died for me when i finished that 1p mode. If only MK64 kept stats of how long me and my friend had played through timetrial, it would be astronomical and embarrassing!4p mode is probably the best in MK64 or equal with MKDS.
RubxQub
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On a relatively different note, has anyone played a versus race and noticed that the game goes into hyper-mode? As if someone turned the game speed up to double or something like that?
That happened to us twice the last time we played, the Moo Moo Farm has never been so hard before!
That happened to us twice the last time we played, the Moo Moo Farm has never been so hard before!
Red Dolphin
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RubxQub said:
Yes I've noticed it and it's EXACTLY the same in the original 64 version. There are no improvements or changes to the framerate. The game is certainly sharper and cleaner thanks to the increased resolution though.
I've had a blast playing it again though, and I can't wait to get 4 ppl together again and play it. This game leaves DKR for dead in the multiplayer. The game "mechanics" are just so much more fun. DKR has a awesome single player mode though.
What I find interesting is that the Rainbow Road that appeared in MKDS was the beta track for MK64's Rainbow Road. Wonder why they chose to scrap that one in favour of the one we did get in MK64. They at least could have taken the course boundaries of parts of the track if not all of it.
Random thoughts...
JRW
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Just because MK DS & Double Dash are slightly better doesnt make MK64 a 'bad' game by any means, The DS version was totally ruined online by the "snake' technique everyone uses.
Mario Kart DS - DS --- Avg Ratio: 92%
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - GC --- Avg Ratio: 87%
Mario Kart 64 - N64 --- Avg Ratio: 85%
Mario Kart DS - DS --- Avg Ratio: 92%
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - GC --- Avg Ratio: 87%
Mario Kart 64 - N64 --- Avg Ratio: 85%
Bartman3010
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The reason why Moo Moo Farm goes so damned fast is that is what Nintendo used to accomodate for the slowdown in Mario Kart 64. But since its running on better hardware, I was hoping that the speed up trick would be turned 'off' for the VIrtual console release.
I was wrong. Notice how if you play Luigi Raceway in 3 player mode, it runs so much smoother than with 4 players. It pains me that they couldnt even bother to fix this problem for Mario Kart 64, making the overall purchase kind of...bothersome...
I was wrong. Notice how if you play Luigi Raceway in 3 player mode, it runs so much smoother than with 4 players. It pains me that they couldnt even bother to fix this problem for Mario Kart 64, making the overall purchase kind of...bothersome...
TheQueen'sOwn
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Dks jungle is still pretty bad in the framerate department....
PiccoloCube
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JRW said:
what?
the Mini-Turbo technique was created in MK64. MTs in straights were used for better times in TT. Mini-Turbo was just way harder to exploit back then (and was better because it didn't overpower players that much). MKDD would have been the same as MKDS if it was online.
MK64 still beels better. i wish it had more stuff to do in 1p (even back then it was pitiful in 1p)
the thoroughbred
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Maybe its not actually faster in Moo Moo farm, it could be that the course was designed smaller. Giving the effect that your travelling really fast, when in actually its the same. This could also have been a purpose choice, because it is unlike Nintendo to do something like that.
JRW said:
Wait... what!?
People can debate the merits of Mario Kart DS vs Super Mario Kart all they want, but Double Dash is clearly the worst game in the series. That game has no redeeming qualities. MK64 is far from my favorite, but it was a pure joy of unscripted chaos. DD is just lame and uninspired.
They NEED to fix some of the framerate issues with an update.
Moo Moo Farm is just WAY too fast in 3 player. (Haven't tried 4 player, probably the same.)
It's kinda cool, cause it's like playing F-Zero with with power slides, but my friends just couldn't keep up. (Which was a downer for them.)
Hope they fix that up, and I hope they consider online.
Moo Moo Farm is just WAY too fast in 3 player. (Haven't tried 4 player, probably the same.)
It's kinda cool, cause it's like playing F-Zero with with power slides, but my friends just couldn't keep up. (Which was a downer for them.)
Hope they fix that up, and I hope they consider online.
Throwaway123456789
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Red Dolphin said:
This is just wrong. We had a 4-player session last night (four hours of MK64 goodness!) and the game runs sooo much better on the Wii than on the N64 (I have the N64 game as well). I'm sure the 64 version runs at somewhere around 16 fps in a 4-player block fort battle, whereas the Wii version is a (almost) smooth ~30 fps experience.
There are some issues as some have pointed out though; The DK level is noticeable "chuggy-er" than the other ones, with a worse framerate. Moo Moo Farm (always), Bowser's Castle (always) and sometimes other levels runs in hyper mode, which is fun the first few times, but then really annoying. This also happens in the Skyscraper level in Battle Mode.
Also, the high-res textures and sprites helps ALOT. Same with the improved resolution.
I love this game, and why the hell does people find the need to argue which game is better in a thread that's about ONE SINGLE GAME. Give it up, people.
Naked Snake
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jooey said:
:lol