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NPD Sales Results for June 2013 [Up2: 360/3DS Hardware, AC/LM/DK Digital + Retail]
- Thread starter EviLore
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One has to wonder why Nintendo would think that Game & Warrio would do anything in North America. Not saying it shouldn't have been made, but it's a filler game that should have been a downloadable only title. It had "bomb at retail" written all over it.
Aquamarine
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JohnnySasaki86
Member
Sorry to go off topic here, but what GoW: Ascension postmortem? Link? Very interested.
Hey, it bested the PSP Go! But I guess most of it sales are online.
So, is it a good guess to say that is at around 100k WW LTD?
Ah. Just assumed that the regular leakers functioned as such. Thanks.
Aquamarine
Member
So many numbers in this thread...
1. 3DS - 225K
2. 360 - 140K
3. PS3 - 108K
4. DS - 54K
4. Wii - 53K
5. Wii U - 42K
6. Vita - 27K
7. Ouya - 13-19K (probably closer to 13K)
8. PSP - 8K
9. PSP Go - 34
The only console missing this month is PS2.
Everyone did a wonderful job this month on number leaks. This has been a fantastic NPD thread. :-D
Only downside was AZ Greg giving us false information. :-(
1. 3DS - 225K
2. 360 - 140K
3. PS3 - 108K
4. DS - 54K
4. Wii - 53K
5. Wii U - 42K
6. Vita - 27K
7. Ouya - 13-19K (probably closer to 13K)
8. PSP - 8K
9. PSP Go - 34
The only console missing this month is PS2.
Everyone did a wonderful job this month on number leaks. This has been a fantastic NPD thread. :-D
Only downside was AZ Greg giving us false information. :-(
Sho_Nuff82
Member
We got Ouya numbers? I wish I could go back and find my many posts predicting that it was going to bomb, and why it bombing was going to confuse the hell out of so many analysts who predicted it being the next big thing.
People don't buy Android devices for the games. They buy the games (or pirate them shamelessly) because they happen to be on their sleek Android phones and tablets. The Ouya has worse hardware than 2012 high-end phones, and it...isn't a phone. No one asked for this.
September 2012
May 2013
July 2012
People don't buy Android devices for the games. They buy the games (or pirate them shamelessly) because they happen to be on their sleek Android phones and tablets. The Ouya has worse hardware than 2012 high-end phones, and it...isn't a phone. No one asked for this.
September 2012
May 2013
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Sho_Nuff82 said:
Some times it really does feel like their two platforms are handled by two different companies
Admiral Bone to Pick
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Also, since the Wii U gets picked on for its bad name, what the hell kind of name is Ouya for a system? It sounds like a name for an old witch or banshee, and 99% of people probably don't even know how to pronounce it.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
This has been an uncharacteristically informative NPD. Not complaining, just didn't expect it. I guess the chains have been taken off?
metalslimer
Member
Now i feel like im being greedy but the lack of software numbers for more games sucks
Hopefully
Hopefully
Hmm Project X Zone sales seem pretty good to me.
It's just a relatively good month for most platforms.
It's just a relatively good month for most platforms.
The numbers are leaks. NPD's chains on the information haven't changed any.
I wouldn't go that far. There is excitement over PS4 but I don't see it carrying over to the PS3 or Vita. Same is always true for Nintendo too.
Thanks for this post. Not sure why everyone always believes AZ.
metalslimer
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Well we got 2 platforms through official sources.
Yeah not saying those were predictions was a dick move
I don't know, for a joke platform that had to ship 60K units to backers, 13-17K seems pretty good.
While probably not a real competitor for next-gen given what it does, I think it shines some rays of hope on Google's rumored box.
While probably not a real competitor for next-gen given what it does, I think it shines some rays of hope on Google's rumored box.
The Last of us is pulling some December number right in the middle of June. Quite the enormous success this game has been.
AC is about where I expected it to be and did great numbers. It should sell pretty well on the long term too. Instant impact on hardware was very significant but I suspect it won't be long lasting. Still, if 3ds can get to 40k/week next month, then that would be pretty good.
Dedicated handheld market has shrunk a great deal compared to DS/PSP times, I'm surprised people are still shocked by this. But let's not forget that the DS had hugely expanded that same market too. We're still relatively far from the GBA times but that was with a way cheaper product and what I suspect to have been a smaller tie-in ratio along with no eshop revenue.
Doesn't seem too bad but they've falling victims to the high expectations everybody has for them due to the way it was announced, shown and all the press surrounding it.
AC is about where I expected it to be and did great numbers. It should sell pretty well on the long term too. Instant impact on hardware was very significant but I suspect it won't be long lasting. Still, if 3ds can get to 40k/week next month, then that would be pretty good.
Dedicated handheld market has shrunk a great deal compared to DS/PSP times, I'm surprised people are still shocked by this. But let's not forget that the DS had hugely expanded that same market too. We're still relatively far from the GBA times but that was with a way cheaper product and what I suspect to have been a smaller tie-in ratio along with no eshop revenue.
Doesn't seem too bad but they've falling victims to the high expectations everybody has for them due to the way it was announced, shown and all the press surrounding it.
ZSaberLink
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I was talking about for all platforms idlewild, not just for WiiU. That's just pure guessing honestly. We just know the numbers for #7 and #2, and I expect Minecraft to be above the other 3.
metalslimer
Member
Hmm, like shinra said looking at the rest of june it seems the 3DS momentum evaporated after AC week. It'll probably still do decent numbers with Dream Team next month, although i think any hopes of the weekly staying flat is gone. Still not so sure a price drop wouldn't help but proitability is the key
IncandescentPrecept
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DS will never reach PS2 numbers.
A price drop would surely help sell units, but that's not really Nintendo's first priority, as you said. Especially in the handheld arena, it's not like they have a competing system breathing down their necks like PSP was to DS in 2005. There's really no foreseeable way they could get to 100B Yen profit on the back of Wii U, so 3DS would have to be carrying most of that goal on its back. To do that, they need to maximize profit on the 3DS side, so a price drop doesn't really fit there. Price drop for 3DS April 1, 2014?
DS is behind by about one or two (maybe three) million at this point, no? It's reached it, but it's having trouble passing it.
Pretty much... no way there's a price drop before that. There should be better bundles and overall better marketing during the holidays though. Last one wasn't very good.
New model, price drop on XL and original 3ds after march is probably the safest route to go.
metalslimer
Member
Only because nintendo ended production
Edit: And yes there definitely needs to fucking be new xl colors and better bundles this year. Im horrified that nintendo said they were focusing on 3ds last holiday because 3ds had a shit holiday last year. A pokemon black friday bundle would have people in line early. Nintendo has so much to work with this year software wise. 3ds is an exciting platform to watch, the complete opposite of wiiu.
KillerTravis
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Wow 50k for PXZ is much better than I expected.
Unfortunately, we don't know how much the platform sold the week before Crossing came out, that's the biggest culript over here. At least, Nintendo said the game is still selling "strongly" in July, according to their internal tracker, this should help next month.
If PxZ is really just under 50k, in its first 11 days, that seems great to me. Especially considering digital sales aren't counted (the game is 34.99 instead of 39.99 on eShop)
If PxZ is really just under 50k, in its first 11 days, that seems great to me. Especially considering digital sales aren't counted (the game is 34.99 instead of 39.99 on eShop)
Very good, if you consider the fact that it sold only around half as much as the Wii U and Vita did this first month. The joke console actually being a contender is not a good sign for either system.
metalslimer
Member
Yeah i hope japanese 3rd parties see this resurgence and comitt to more mid tier games more specifically square and capcom
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
It is behind by about 2M when we compare the latest DS numbers to the PS2 numbers from 2 years back.
metalslimer
Member
But nintendo ended ds production so there is no shot even though sony ended ps2 production. The truth is though the DS was a much better selling platform than the ps2 although multiple DS are sold because it is a handheld. No console will ever reach ps2 numbers
pharmboy044
Member
985K for TLoU? Holy shit, I would never have thought that ND would hit that number especially when we first heard of the delay and the new release date. I guess releasing just after E3 was genious.
Also, it being number 1 on Junes PSN sales chart definitely leads me to believe that it sold over 1 million.
Congrats ND!
Also, it being number 1 on Junes PSN sales chart definitely leads me to believe that it sold over 1 million.
Congrats ND!
The DS numbers are exactly one year apart from the PS2 numbers.
ArtHands
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I think its only a million, but with Nintendo stopping DS production now I doubt it will surpass the ps2.
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woah yah. DS sold nearly as much in a shorter time frame.
Yes, 985K would be the biggest debut of the first half, with Injustice and BioShock Infinite being the only entries in the 800-900K band.
Honestly I feel it's a huge success for Sony. These aren't good end-of-generation sales, they're just straight up good sales. It's also a great validation for Naughty Dog that what they do is the core driver of their sales, and not some series of happenstance, aggressive bundling, and good timing.
This would also be the first new IP Sony has managed to launch in a major way since God of War, and is a healthy sign for them going into the PS4 where they will want to try to majorly grow a lot of brands and launch multiple new IPs in a notable way in fast succession.
TLOU along with Injustice and Luigi's Mansion would be my runaway success stories of the first half relative to expectations.
Only because Nintendo stopped production..
Plus, wasn't the PS2 sold in more developing countries? I'm sure that's where the difference lies.
metalslimer
Member
I would say 3ds in general 1st party software was just an amazing success.
Fire Emblem beat my wildest expectations and did anyone expect AC to be a possible 10 million seller again WW? And of course luigi's mansion. I feel like the 3DS is exactly where nintendo wants to be at as a company. Great sales for their B franchises but able to sell blockbusters too along with middling dev costs and a quickly growing digital ecosystem. And in the same way if nintendo could stick with the 3ds forever they would.
In contrast the wiiu is expensive in every way, no 3rd party support because consoles dont matter in japan and nintendo seems like they just want to make 3ds level productions because outside of x their wiiu games dont seem particulary ambitious.
There's a reason they are leaks
IMO 550K and third biggest debut behind MS3DL/MK7 is about what you would expect out of Animal Crossing given how well it did last generation and how well it was doing in Japan.
Fire Emblem is a strong performer for being Fire Emblem, but I feel "actually really large numbers" is kind of important for runaway success.
But yes, I think the 3DS' general overperformance (year over year wise) in first party software is well reflected by the 45% YoY increase in hardware sales this month.
Sho_Nuff82
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I think NPD gives out numbers to subscribers with slight variations. Anyone who just copy/pastes the real numbers will be exposing their true identity. Giving a range is just vague enough to stay anonymous.
metalslimer
Member
Yes, but i think many including me attributed AC's huge success to the touch generations market but it seems it is sticking around as a legitimate huge franchise for them now.
But its funny to look at how terrible they did last year in the first half with Kid Icarus and that overpriced fatal frame thing.
I still believe nintendo has to find new ip like animal crossing or even luigi's mansion and capitalize on that. Right now as a fan of nintendo's games the 3DS satisfies all the needs i have and the wiiu is unappealing. And i think its because nintendo is not justifying their console library very well. Before when its the gamecube vs gba i would have never been satisfied with the gba only because the productions seemed so much higher with the gamecube.
Aquamarine
Member
I'm certain this is the reason. If there was a 100% guarantee all data was identical across all clients, no leakers would ever post ranges.