The framerate isn't poor. It's faster than Killzone.
I don't think there is a simple answer to this as both games are very complex.
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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I don't think there is a simple answer to this as both games are very complex.
Good job.
.Thanks!
Am I to understand that DF doctored the screenshots in order to make XO version more appealing? Or am I getting something wrong?
How else would you explain version containing 50% more pixels as looking worse (in DF shots) than 720p version?
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
One team concentrating on one platform and one render target compared to one team concentrating on 5 platforms at different render targets.
Honestly I think both look OK, but graphics of a single game aside, the results of the pixels and frames only speaks towards the power advantage of the PS4.
I dont think they show too well in this case (I do need to see better video, and not this DF 'we didn't do it right' bullshit though).
If a YTer is getting better video, why do we have DF? Stand for something, or sit down. I dont care what looks better, but dont give me the amateur we didn't capture it right line
..contract...brightness...sharpness...use it MFer
any way, looks fun, be there day one....preorder NOT canceled.
I dont think they show too well in this case (I do need to see better video, and not this DF 'we didn't do it right' bullshit though).
If a YTer is getting better video, why do we have DF? Stand for something, or sit down. I dont care what looks better, but dont give me the amateur we didn't capture it right line
..contract...brightness...sharpness...use it MFer
any way, looks fun, be there day one....preorder NOT canceled.
Synless
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Why are shitty messed up captures in the OP then? I know that they are messed up, I am just curious with all the people coming in here only looking at those screens and not reading anything else.
Terbinator
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It's to create "depth" between objects - like the corner of a room where the floor and two walls would meet, for exmaple.
Personally, i turn it off in most games as it looks tacky (as it does in BF4) and isn't at all competitive for multiplayer games.
Case closed, shut this thread.
SneakyStephan
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that's not what he said though?
You're talking about the xbone version having sharpening, he's talking about the ps4 version being blurry
they are both shit in their own unique special way
for unique and different reasonsit's the thin leper vs the obese young man
lepracy is still bad and there is no point comparing it to the fat guy.
the lessons people should be taking here are:
-there is no fix for scaling blur, the only way to deal with is to avoid it by making sure you don't have to scale, sharpening only adds another problem on top of it
-there is no shortcut to fixing aliasing, to reduce jaggies and pixel crawling and shimmering you need more pixel samples , post process blur filters only add another problem on top of them and do nothing to relieve temporal aliasing like shimmering and moiree (look at the far away stairs in one of the pictures to see what moiree is, and look the power lines to see shimmering) anyway
You go native res or you go home, and you use real AA or you use none at all.
shinra-bansho
Member
GIF'd it.
It's 8MB though so I won't embed.
http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif
The magic of "sharpen."
Delt31
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I am one of those that like the sharpened xbone look but after looking at this post (which sharpens the ps4) I can tell the ps4 is better which matches the tech specs. QUESTION IS - how do I get that look when playing the game on PS4? Is it just a matter of tv settings? Currently (or at least on this thread) the PS4 compare pics are blurrier and don't POP as much as XBONE but your updated pics def do (for PS4 - pop, etc)
TUROK
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It really doesn't look all that much better, and the framerate is higher than Killzone's 30 FPS on single player.
Americanmushroom
Banned
ambient occlusion. Shadowing an object next to another object basically.
You can see it here on the ps4 version. the shadow of the mirror
Again, Killzone is not 30 fps in single player (though I wish it were). It's unlocked and generally runs faster than 30 fps.
you might want to check yourself...because DF talks about SOFTWARE scaling on the PS4...not hardware...
IAmRandom31
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For the OP. Had to edit my screen captures. Someone pointed out my name was in the pics lol.
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BlazingDarkness
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You missed my point.
I was saying that the aggressive post-processing on the PS4 version (making it blurry) is as much a problem to me as is the over-saturated sharpness of the Xbone version to most people in this thread. But apparently I'm a 'dirty casual' and a 'sycophant' for making that known. The blurriness is a big disadvantage for me, and that is an issue that's not related to how the Xbone version looks.
Nah Sony money hatted them not to show it.
Higher contrast and darker image to hide the faults, technically you can do that at home if you want by adjusting your TV settings I suppose, but its not going yo look like that out of the box and you could do that for either version
FranXico
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IMO it wasn't intentional. They already had their capture settings optimized for the X1, and then didn't have enough time to tune them again for the PS4.
It was all due to the rush to get the material up.
Where does it say frame rate is poor ?
And large scale MP with 64 people vs small scale MP , I guess.
boredandlazy
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AO is gonna be in the final game
One less thing for people to quibble about.Anyway both versions seem unfinished and the final code will look better so we should wait till then.I feel that if anyone has only an XBO then this is a pretty good port and if one has the option get the PS4 or better the Pc version.
Some people's "loyalty" is downright villainous and self-destructive, it's almost political. I guess some people like the color of their blood so much, they have to cut themselves if others don't. I don't think anyone should stand around in their blood, they'll think we're murderers.
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Thank you, guys.
Hmm. What about the factors mentioned by the other posters here? Or do you mean that the differences are blown-up because of contrast settings in the capture device?
Pseudo judo
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Agreed. My point is that it's an extremely poor representation of the X1's capabilities in BF4because of the amazingly poor source footage it came from and it's being used by certain console warriors to paint a false picture of BF4 on Xbone.
Because thats the content of the thread (DF comparison), but I agree its doing a disservice to all those people wandering in here and getting the false idea about this difference.
Backfoggen
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ConteZero76
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lol, I'm certain the Call of Duty Ghost thread will be much, much worse.
We'll switch from "which's better" to "which's worst".
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
That I think has a lot to do with it.
Nice. DF is full of shit. And to think I used to respect their tech analysis...
Ol No Bones
Banned
Ok i know jaggies will be more obvious to me on a big screen but if I was an average consumer I would say the Xbox one footage looks quite a bit more appealing lol.
I bet you think the PC version looks awful too, considering it looks the same as PS4.
TUROK
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Ah, I didn't know. Last I heard was that it was 30 for SP and 60 for MP. Didn't Guerilla specifically state this before? Not that I'm doubting your claim, just curious as to who said it.
Or the fix just wasn't ready. Not everything is a tinfoil hat conspiracy
LOL
Yes, I read the op. You're confused about the difference between hardware-based and software-based upscaling. DF's guess was a bad software-based upscale.
VanquishUK
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Here is a good comparison
Does anyone part of AO affect "Jaggies"?
Pseudo judo
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I'm just repeating what's in the OP. You say that that's in dispute then by all means enlighten me as to why that is.
Which one do you prefer now that the PS4 image is sharpened and oversaturated like the X1 version?
You can achieve this effect with your TV settings.
Prince Vultan
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Hope none of you guys in the Microsoft side of the court are planning on buying BF4 on Xbone, because it sounds like some of you may need to stay away from sharp objects for a while ;D
Olympic level mental gymnastics going on from some here.
Olympic level mental gymnastics going on from some here.
I disagree with the choice of words, throughout this thread really.
The only useful definition of sharpness as it relates to game IQ comparisons is the representation of source detail in the final image. By that metric, the PS4 version is sharper than the XB1 version -- despite the latter having ridiculously blown out edge contrast -- simply because of its significantly higher sample density.
Of course, the PC version is far sharper than either one of them.
(This definition of sharpness is the only useful one because it prevents an image getting more sharp when you increase the "sharpness" setting on your TV)