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DOOM (2016) to be 1080p and 60fps on both Consoles
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Monty Mole
Member
That's great - but is this just using the RAGE engine again?
Sorry if stupid, I really haven't been following this stuff recently.
EDIT: Apologies, by RAGE engine I meant the engine that powered Rage (IdTech5), not Rockstar's engine.
Sorry if stupid, I really haven't been following this stuff recently.
EDIT: Apologies, by RAGE engine I meant the engine that powered Rage (IdTech5), not Rockstar's engine.
Gunslinger
Member
Nice!!!
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
No, it's using IdTech6 instead of IdTech5.
Wondering this as well. Good on Bethesda/id if they're able to pull off a stable 60 on both at 1080p tho.
It's the follow-up engine.
It's built from the previous one, but they dropped megatextures, and worked on modernizing the rendering engine a lot, among the other types of upgrades you'd expect.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
I'll believe it when DF says so.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
RAGE engine can't do 1080p/60 in it's wildest dreams lol.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
If this is true then I hope I can run the game at 144hz on my PC.
I hope the 60fps cap rumor isn't true.
I hope the 60fps cap rumor isn't true.
paragonpro
Banned
Awesome! makes me wonder though if there engine is all the demanding? But good either way, doom shouldnt be played at any less than 60 fps
Dictator93
Member
It is also making me extremely nervous on the PC front that it will take a little too much after idtech 5: which has an incomprehensible performance profile amond...ehem... a 60fps lock! :X
Monty Mole
Member
Sounds great, impressed to see they're still focusing on 60fps performance then for this generation.
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It did 720p/60 on 360, why wouldn't it do 1080p/60 for new-gen? Regardless, kind of moot now as I didn't know it was using a newer engine.
MMaRsu
Banned
Thats him talking about other games tho
sixteen-bit
Member
the feel of 60
Cave Johnson
Member
RAGE engine is being used by R* that powered the GTA and RDR games. I think you meant idTech5.
ashecitism
Member
Is it still going to be OGL based?
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
wonder if this will have dynamic resolutions like Rage did on consoles. The PS3 version could get rough in a couple of spots.
Monty Mole
Member
Yes, apologies, I meant the engine that powered Rage (id game).
But that was a different and a heavily criticized engine.
Hope that it runs well on all platforms. I'll get it on PC when I eventually play it.
The multiplayer alpha was 1080p60 on PS4 at least. Some minor tearing could pop up at times but it was impressively solid.
Which part? It was 1080p60 on both platforms. It could drop in resolution in XO but both versions run like a dream.
Here are a couple of screenshots they released this month from gameplay perspectives:
I doubt they made significant changes to how the engine works in one iteration, but we'll see.
Monty Mole
Member
Screenshots are less impressive! Honestly though, I just love the fluidity of 60fps and will take that over 30fps with better graphics for a FPS - it's what made Wolfenstein feel so good on consoles. Sucks for PC gamers though hoping for better assets.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Hopefully true. PS4 will be my console of choice for this game and I hope it looks good. That said, some of the gameplay choices they've made turns me off, but that's between me and the game.
Will this game suffer from parity issues too, or will PS4 have improvement in other areas due to the more powerful hardware?
Will this game suffer from parity issues too, or will PS4 have improvement in other areas due to the more powerful hardware?
The 8-Bit Raider
Member
1080p and 60 fps on both consoles? I wonder if this is going to lead to the same "parity outcry" we experienced with the Division before we learned the differences between the two consoles.
Gnome Scat
Member
Awesome, looking forward to it.
The benchmarks of the Beta showed that it favored AMD hardware. Admittedly, that is still a Beta and they probably haven't finished optimising everything, but could be interesting if they are going for a rendering approach that works better with AMD's GCN and less so on Kepler and Maxwell.
If they really removed Megatextures, I'd be impressed. Was the single one thing ruining the texture quality in that game, like everything has a vasoline filter over it + compression artefacts even on highest quality setting, while using all the VRAM, since that is literally how that thing was designed. Still mindboggling that this weird experiment by Carmak was actually used in a few AAA games by now.
lukeskymac
Member
Pushing for 1080p60fps is commendable and all, but
That's certainly not what this game is.
That's certainly not what this game is.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Why not just enjoy the game and stop caring about this parity nonsense?
I remember back when Carmack said that RAGE was developed for 60fps, while Doom 4 was instead targeting 30fps. I'm glad they backtracked on that. Hopefully the decision was also based on having more enemies onscreen.
It's also more in line with the original Doom development philosophy. You have to remember that the engine was deliberately developed to facilitate fast paced arcade gameplay, and not so much cutting edge visuals. There were more advanced, true 3D engines around for PC at the time but they were all really slow and choppy, and that's what id didn't like about them.
It's also more in line with the original Doom development philosophy. You have to remember that the engine was deliberately developed to facilitate fast paced arcade gameplay, and not so much cutting edge visuals. There were more advanced, true 3D engines around for PC at the time but they were all really slow and choppy, and that's what id didn't like about them.
id Tech 6 still uses virtual textures. One of the data folders for the alpha is literally "virtualtextures" a la Rage and Wolf14 (I'd say The Evil Within, too, but that I don't have installed).
Yes.
abracadaver
Member
I would have prefered 1080p with 30fps and better visuals. Then play it on PC with 60fps
OdysseusVA
Banned
Good! I love parity
It's a damn good looking game. What other 1080p60 titles come to your mind as looking better?
KainXVIII
Member
This.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
So what extras do you get with the PS4 version given it's a much more powerful console relative to Xbox One?
Broadbandito
Member
except it was lol. Xo dropped res here and there but it was 1080/60 on ps4
whats wrong with 60fps? the Alpha felt great in 60
I'm assuming they switched to the modernized version of the concept we see in newer games like current Frostbite titles or Far Cry 4: http://twvideo01.ubm-us.net/o1/vault/gdc2015/presentations/Chen_Ka_AdaptiveVirtualTexture.pdf
Otherwise Pete Hines' statement doesn't make much sense: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1066174
lukeskymac
Member
Battlefront might be, but that's not how I interpreted that quote. To me it sounded like "The best looking game, period, AND it's 1080p60fps."
Gamezone
Gold Member
The same was said about the engine Battlefront is using.