show me your skeleton
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any idea about system requirements?
wondering if i could run this on my 2010 macbook pro at all.
wondering if i could run this on my 2010 macbook pro at all.
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Civilization 6 announced, out October 21st
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decoyplatypus
Member
The abilities sound powerful. And the Great Wall seems like it could be tricky to balance. Gonna be a fun civ to play.
Civ: Aztec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw79o14yj6E
Leader: Montezuma
Special ability:
Gifts for the Tenochtitlan army: Luxuries give amenities to other cities and each different luxury gives military units more fighting power
Unique Building:
Tlatchli located in the Entertainment complex
Gives faith, amenities and great general points
Unique Unit:
Eagle Warrior: Can turn defeated units into builder units
However, the Aztec race seems to be locked for 90 days unless you pre-order
Leader: Montezuma
Special ability:
Gifts for the Tenochtitlan army: Luxuries give amenities to other cities and each different luxury gives military units more fighting power
Unique Building:
Tlatchli located in the Entertainment complex
Gives faith, amenities and great general points
Unique Unit:
Eagle Warrior: Can turn defeated units into builder units
However, the Aztec race seems to be locked for 90 days unless you pre-order
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Is this some pseudo early access thing <_<
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Those unique traits sound pretty neat. I only hope that the AI is smart enough to take advantage of the unorthodox traits.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So there's no more culture in this game? Since Aztec usually is a cultural warrior.
dapperbandit
Banned
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion.
We know there's culture in some form because one of the English special units is their ability to get more artifices with their archaeologists.
decoyplatypus
Member
There's definitely culture. I don't know if we've seen a detailed explanation of border growth in this game (I think it's a safe assumption we are not going back to "culture-flipping," given what they've done with cities), but we know that culture is used to advance along the culture tech tree.
This video addresses some of the common complaints or concerns about the game (based on what's known so far).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM8YU41o9D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM8YU41o9D4
decoyplatypus
Member
I'm going to share my thoughts on the the concerns identified in the video:
(1) Missing features - I don't spend much time stressing about DLC civs or maps or whatever. We'll get them eventually, and the core game design just matters way more than controversial retail practices (at least until those retail practices start influencing game design). As far as game design goes, Ed Beach has pointed out that it's basically Civ tradition to throw out or remix parts of the previous game. The absence of the world congress doesn't concern me because Civ 5's version was a specific response to vanilla's diplomacy being lame and the mid-game needing a shakeup. Civ 6 is already overhauling diplomacy, and one of their goals is for diplomacy to evolve by era. If the base design works as intended, Civ 6 shouldn't need a world congress feature the way Civ 5 did.
(2) Visual style - I don't have any new thoughts on this and probably won't until I am actually playing the game. Legibility is a good goal. We'll see how well they execute. I will be turning on yield icons either way, because the only part of Civ I need to look pretty is the UI.
(3) Balance - Well, yeah, there are going to be balance issues. They'll get sorted out by the developers and by modders.
(4) The AI - I don't have much to say about something that is always a concern in these types of games. There were two broad criticisms of Civ 5 AIs: (1) they don't behave in a credible way; (2) they're not very good at the game. Firaxis clearly has a plan to deal with the first problem through new diplomacy features, including the agenda system. The second, well, the AI can't have gotten worse at managing 1UPT logistics.
(5) Network problems - Apart from asking the developers what they're doing to ensure network performance, there's not much point in worrying because there's nothing to be done.
(6) It doesn't feel like a Civ game any more - I don't quite understand this concern. It's still a history-themed 4x, and the basic game progression and most of its features are either lifted or adapted from previous Civs.
My biggest concern, not mentioned in the video, is that this won't get far enough away from design decisions that made Civ 5 less fun than Civ 4. Will cores--or anything else they're doing--fix the fundamental problems with 1UPT? Are the city-states going to be more fun than Civ 5's or just more streamlined? Is this still going to be a game about filling buckets?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ah I was just curious due to Aztec being more into luxuries now.
dapperbandit
Banned
Love the choice of leader and civ perks. This is right up my alley!
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh so the Louis XIV is wrong
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
No chu-ko-nu for China?? :|
(holy shit this game looks great)
(holy shit this game looks great)
UnluckyKate
Member
Not Henry IV? Interesting
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Might as well ask since Civ V thread is kinda dead.
does having teams in single player still count for achievements? and how do team gameplay work anyway? I haven't tried it even as far as Civ III
does having teams in single player still count for achievements? and how do team gameplay work anyway? I haven't tried it even as far as Civ III
Henry IV was the initial guess from the blurry pic but quickly it appeared that it was a portrait of Catherine de Medicis.
decoyplatypus
Member
Any word on Catherine's agenda?
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
She has a neat espionage bonus.
Anyone able to find ideal specs for CIV VI? It's time for me to upgrade my tower but I'd like to be way out in front of everything. My current -- even on lowest graphic settings -- always chugs near the endgame.
Specs are not finalized yet.
No offense to France, but I find it hard to say Catherine Medici was the most powerful female monarch of the Elizabethan era...
Lots of culture focus so that's definitely a plus - also interesting that she has a mid game focus. That's the first time I can think of where a specific bonus only started after a certain time in that way, so good to see they are playing around with traits more
Lots of culture focus so that's definitely a plus - also interesting that she has a mid game focus. That's the first time I can think of where a specific bonus only started after a certain time in that way, so good to see they are playing around with traits more
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Cool. Needless to say it'll be a heavy load, just wondering HOW heavy. The demo vids look pretty intense.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Would be super neat, say in Civ VII, if you can select your Civ AND your ruler. Like every big Civ would have a couple or more to choose from.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Do we have any confirmation that they're not toying with multiple leaders for this one? Maybe not at launch, or for every civ, but the way the France video was phrased makes me really think that there's going to be multiple options here, with "Catherine's" focus being on spies, specifically.
decoyplatypus
Member
Yes, that seems neat. But I was actually asking about her diplomatic agenda. They've touted agendas as one of the major features of Civ 6 diplomacy (each leader has one permanent, overt agenda and one hidden, random agenda: e.g., Teddy does not like warmongers on his home continent; Cleopatra does not respect Civs with small militaries), but I don't think they mentioned Monty's or Cat's agendas in their introductory videos.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think we all know Monty's agenda.
From what I can see, each Civ has:
- A Civ Ability
- A Leader Ability
- An Agenda
- A Unique Unit
- A Unique (Building/Wonder/Improvement/Etc.)
The fact that there's a separate Leader Ability and they're really hammering in that the Agenda is based on the historical personality rather than the general scope of the civilization says to me that extra leaders is 100% on the table.
- A Civ Ability
- A Leader Ability
- An Agenda
- A Unique Unit
- A Unique (Building/Wonder/Improvement/Etc.)
The fact that there's a separate Leader Ability and they're really hammering in that the Agenda is based on the historical personality rather than the general scope of the civilization says to me that extra leaders is 100% on the table.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I also think that because Leader Ability exists, it means there's a possibility of having multiple leaders per civ in the future.
They're nothing alike, but I'd recommend it. Great game and similar counters(spearmen > horses, horses > archers, etc.), but most of the time you won't find yourself fighting(although that mainly depends on your civ).
Poodlestrike
Banned
Depends on why you liked it, tbh. Gameplay is totally different (turned based 4x vs. real time strategy), but there's some familiar structural elements, gathering specific resources for specific stuff, historical themes. I played a lot of AoE 2 when I was a kid and took to Civ like a duck to water.
Definitely go with 5, all expansions.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
While the games are different in scope, you would still feel familiarity. My first foray into Civ was pretty much like yours, curious to try out a civilization-based strategy game due to familiarity with an RTS lol
Bolivar687
Banned
You can't go wrong with either but I might prefer Civ 4 because the game pacing is much faster. It's easier to get bottlenecked in Civ V & BE and slow the flow of the game down to a crawl.
Bioshocker
Member
"Qin is a ruler who gets things done". LMAO! Well, so did Stalin. The emperor Qin was a tyrant after all.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Well to be fair this isn't the first time Civ liked to... undersell negative stuff of a civ at the time.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Im just the opposite, I vastly prefer Civ 5 now. I think the game just plays better than 4 did, and I love the one unit per tile mechanics, the hex maps, archaeology and tourism, and the UI is so much improved. This is of course only true of Civ 5 with all of the expansions and content, Civ 5 vanilla was NOT better than Civ 4 IMHO.
dapperbandit
Banned
First Look - Brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oh2HzwZxOc
Looks like they've done something interesting with Great People, not only can you now spend money to rush earning them, each individual Great Person appears to provide unique bonuses so in theory no two Great People are alike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oh2HzwZxOc
Looks like they've done something interesting with Great People, not only can you now spend money to rush earning them, each individual Great Person appears to provide unique bonuses so in theory no two Great People are alike.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
that is one ugly Pedro
poppedcollar69
Member
im pretty hype for this game
I would say by the color of his nose that he is also an alcoholic.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
If I recall correctly they promised upon release it will be comparable to Civ V + its expansions in features and depth. Which hopefully means it'll buck the trend of releasing a broken or unbalanced experience. I'm fairly certain they'll continue to sell small DLC civs though given that they're including one civ as a pre-order bonus (which typically implies it'll be paid for otherwise). That's just my best guess though.
veloxStrix
Banned
Is there a good primer to get into these games? I've always tried but never had any clue what I was doing when playing with friends.