The Wii U surprisingly is not doomed! Despite the hyperbole shown on the forum, the Wii U is selling quite well and is doing better than the Xbox 360 and PS3 were doing at the same point in it's consoles history. It also shows that the PS2 was outselling the Xbox 360 month to month consistently.
So what do I expect this to change? Absolutely nothing! Those with an agenda will continue to predict the doom of Nintendo as they always have over the decades, despite how well the system sells. I just wanted to at least at some facts to the discussion instead of the usual rhetoric.
PS2 – 546,000
Xbox 360 – 326,000
PS2 – 1,463,000 (up 48% compared to Dec 2004. Points back to GAF, link broken)
Xbox 360 – 281,000
PS2 – 317,000 (Down 45% compared to Jan 2005 at 488,000)
Xbox 360 – 231,000 (50k fewer consoles in Jan than in Dec)
PS2 – 300,000
Xbox 360 – 160,000
Mar 2006 (couldn't find any concrete data)
PS2 – 207,000
Xbox 360 – 295,000
PS2 – 664,000
Xbox 360 – 511,000
PS3 – 197,000
Wii – 476,000
PS2 – 1,400,000
Xbox 360 – 1,100,000
PS3 – 490,000
Wii – 604,000
PS2 – 299,000
Xbox 360 – 294,000
PS3 – 243,000
Wii – 435,000
PS2 – 295,000
Xbox 360 – 228,000
PS3 – 127,000
Wii – 335,000
PS2 – 280,000
Xbox 360 – 199,000
PS3 – 130,000
Wii – 259,000
PS2 – 194,000
Xbox 360 – 174,000
PS3 – 82,000
Wii – 360,000
Everyone was expecting the PS line to go from PS2 to Saturn in one console generation.
The Xbox 360/PS2 had serious supply problems until the second motherboard or model. Wii also but not nearly as bad.
Some of you seem to be trying way to hard to convince yourselves the Wii U is doing fine. It's not and that realization is going to be harder to swallow the longer you put it off.
Eh... I don't think it will be that much of a disaster, 160-170 is my prediction
i think it'll struggle doing 150k in january.
Or the prices the systems launched at compared to the competition.
Unless we compare the qualitative differences between launches this isn't very helpful.
Ps3 outsold wiiu in december 2006 at 599 dollars. Thats how strong brands can be.
Price has been dropping for some time now at multiple European retailers.
If Nintendo thinks they are doomed they will drop the price and make people ambassadors
So keep this thread on the hush hush
And let's not forget what the OP is hinging his argument on are solely US NPD numbers.
Traditionally -- barring supply shortages, the conventional wisdom is that December will be 1.5 - 2x November. So how did the Wii U do?
November (when there was some suggestion of limited supply do to launch frenzy): 425,000.
December (with stock readily available): 460,000.
So, a 1.08 increase. Now, let's compare to other consoles not supply constrained. How did the PS3 do in its December? 490,000. And the PS3 isn't regarded as a good launch.
So, is it doomed? Maybe not, this is just the launch after all. But I can't fathom how you can argue that the situation looks good as it stands.
I don't know if those are really valid concerns, new consoles seem to be struggling lately, although I don't know if 3DS and Vita would be valid examples. What is a reality is that the market is shrinking thanks to a bad global economy, so sales won't be as good as in 2005/2006.
Obviously the Wii U is not doomed yet, but it's also foolish to ignore all (valid) concerns. We'll probably know more after the upcoming months, but even then it's hard to predict the future. We've been often wrong in the past, we'll be wrong in the future.
You know, it is on shelfs, it should sell at least 2 million in december.
in all seriousness, the WiiU sales worldwide are far from great, but imo the system should be somewhere between 2 and 3 million sold. Nintedo should miss their forecast about 20%, but it is also no total bomb like some on neogaf are saying. It is simply a normal console launch, not good but not bad. And Nintendo made terrible marketing for the console.
It's been said for so long, now, that I'm sure everyone who is saying as such is saying it to be funny and ironic. Because who is going to be serious after saying such for twenty some odd years, now?
How about comparing it to the gamecube? Which sold much more in its first holiday season vs the biggest Juggernaut of all time in the PS2.
I was thinking about making this topic too but I was too lazy to pull the numbers. People shouldn't compare it to the Wii because that was something that will never be repeated in terms of right place right time. Comparing it to PS360 sales is more realistic and when you do its tracking on par with those consoles.
Because all the machines RROD'd and had to be replaced from current inventory.
No, you can't say that!
Also can i just say that there is a difference between underperforming and doomed? Most people who would argue there is underperformance happening is not saying Wii U is dead.
In the ridiculous land of strawmen that the OP lives in, people who acknowledge the high probability that the Wii U will miss Nintendo's own financial forecasts are essentially saying it's doomed. That's the only way to interpret it.
OP, this doesn't have to be a binary awesome/failure scale here. There are degrees.