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Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
(08-15-2013, 11:51 PM)
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Xboned if old:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ing-could-work

"When the console launches this November, we will support Xbox One in 13 markets. Xbox One may be used in all countries, including the non-launched markets. In addition, Xbox One games are not region locked. Any Xbox One game purchased at retail can be used in any country on any Xbox One," said Microsoft in a statement.

"That said, there needs to be a valid payment method corresponding to a supported launch country in order for any transactions to occur over Xbox Live, and some content may not be accessible outside launch markets due to geographic content restrictions imposed by content right holders."

It's not a perfect workaround then, but it's better than nothing. Even without convenient access to the Xbox Live marketplace, players in countries affected by the delay will still be able to enjoy disc-based retail games to tide them over until their currency is supported.

Last edited by Kleegamefan; 08-15-2013 at 11:55 PM.
Khalifa Jayy
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(08-15-2013, 11:52 PM)
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Our console will work everywhere.*

*everywhere that we deem appropriate.
hydrophilic attack
(08-15-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Why is no one asking the important questions:

Will the Pizza Hut app work in non-launch countries?
R dott B
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(08-15-2013, 11:54 PM)
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That seems like quite a bit of work.
LiquidMetal14
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(08-15-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Thanks for the sage words.
BlazingDarkness
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(08-15-2013, 11:55 PM)
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So basically you can play the Xbone and any retail discs but you can't buy/play anything via XBL unless you have a card that corresponds to a launch country.
Ushojax
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(08-15-2013, 11:55 PM)
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That's the same as now, right? Certain apps/content are IP locked and certain payment methods need to match up to the correct region.
demosthenes
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(08-15-2013, 11:56 PM)
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You can still buy a Xbox 360 for online games right?
harSon
(08-15-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness

So basically you can play the Xbone and any retail discs but you can't buy/play anything via XBL unless you have a card that corresponds to a launch country.

Basically. It's the same as the 360.
Midnight Moon
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(08-15-2013, 11:57 PM)
There probably won't be enough support by the time it releases in the other countries anyway, by then there should be a small viable library of games released.
Iced_Eagle
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(08-15-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness

So basically you can play the Xbone and any retail discs but you can't buy/play anything via XBL unless you have a card that corresponds to a launch country.

Yup. Just like how it works today.
Guymelef
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(08-15-2013, 11:58 PM)
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I wonder if non tier 1 countries will receive mandatory day one patch.
NuKERxyz
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(08-16-2013, 12:01 AM)
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Since im from Portugal...Xbox 180!
IN&OUT
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(08-16-2013, 12:01 AM)
Basically its a region free console..great.

Thinking about how restrictive X1 was before the 180, I swear X1 would've never sold at all, I even think that it was impossible for it to reach 10-15 million sold with all those restrictions. MS backpedaling on everything was the best thing they've done.
Bravocado
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(08-16-2013, 12:01 AM)
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This seems like quite a hassle, and potentially expensive too, considering that you'd have to import all games too.
Codernaut
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(08-16-2013, 12:01 AM)

Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness

So basically you can play the Xbone and any retail discs but you can't buy/play anything via XBL unless you have a card that corresponds to a launch country.

Not quite. If you're trying to purchase a game or downloadable content through the Marketplace and it's region locked then what they'll do is check your IP address to figure out your location, and if you're outside your home country then they will not allow you to proceed the process. It's basically the same as the current Marketplace.

As a frequent traveller, this really grinds my gears.
ChosenPredator
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(08-16-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ushojax

That's the same as now, right? Certain apps/content are IP locked and certain payment methods need to match up to the correct region.

thats kinda like steam well i just found out a few days ago the steam gift card i bought at a store (20 dollars worth) I couldn't use it because I wasn't in the correct region or something but support fixed that for me.
Rhindle
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(08-16-2013, 12:04 AM)
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You should just be able to buy points cards in a store and use them for online transactions.
Albert Penello
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(08-16-2013, 12:04 AM)
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It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)
Dragon
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(08-16-2013, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

I love your avatar and dislike your tag. What to believe, what to believe!
SwiftDeath
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(08-16-2013, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

Thanks for posting Albert

You always add more insight than the official statements
Codernaut
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(08-16-2013, 12:06 AM)

Originally Posted by Albert Penello

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

Not just music and video content, some games and DLC are too.
Albert Penello
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"Now More Direct than ever!"
(08-16-2013, 12:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dragon

I love your avatar and dislike your tag. What to believe, what to believe!

I don't work in Microsoft PR. I'm not sure why that's there, and I can't change it.

I do work at Microsoft, however.
Albert Penello
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"Now More Direct than ever!"
(08-16-2013, 12:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Codernaut

some games and DLC are too.

Not any more.
Dragon
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(08-16-2013, 12:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

I don't work in Microsoft PR. I'm not sure why that's there, and I can't change it.

I do work at Microsoft, however.

Well thanks for clarifying all of that. I'm assuming MS doesn't want to encourage the non-launched markets for importing because they want to have enough consoles to cover the territories they ARE launching in.

As far as your tag, you should be happy, I've been tag begging for years and no luck.
Nebula
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(08-16-2013, 12:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

I don't work in Microsoft PR. I'm not sure why that's there, and I can't change it.

I do work at Microsoft, however.

It's a tag given by an Admin to you. It can't be changed by anyone but an Admin.
R dott B
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(08-16-2013, 12:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

Good job as always.
henhowc
(08-16-2013, 12:09 AM)
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So scalpers can buy it and sell to the tier 2 countries? :P
Codernaut
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(08-16-2013, 12:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Albert Penello

Not any more.

Thank fucking god.
DMPrince
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(08-16-2013, 12:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

Not any more.

DLC is region free? SWEET. your move, cerny.
Dreams-Visions
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(08-16-2013, 12:11 AM)
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It's weird to me that they're still thinking through major things like this only a couple of months away from launch. Hope they figure out an adequate solution.
SwiftDeath
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(08-16-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

DLC is region free? SWEET. your move, cerny.

Both games and DLC being region free is big news but considering DLC was region free for X360 I guess that's not surprising

Does make things interesting
Marmaladefire
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(08-16-2013, 12:12 AM)
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But do they get that Day 1 patch?
statham
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(08-16-2013, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by henhowc

So scalpers can buy it and sell to the tier 2 countries? :P

I'm going to be rich.
Codernaut
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(08-16-2013, 12:13 AM)

Originally Posted by SwiftDeath

Both games and DLC being region free is big news but considering DLC was region free for X360 I guess that's not surprising

Does make things interesting

CoD map packs were never region free.
LNBL
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(08-16-2013, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

Hi Albert thanks for posting!

What about using PayPall?
Albert Penello
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(08-16-2013, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dragon

Well thanks for clarifying all of that. I'm assuming MS doesn't want to encourage the non-launched markets for importing because they want to have enough consoles to cover the territories they ARE launching in.

Launch volumes are not really an issue. This was simply a software issue in terms of getting local language and voice support in the dash. it's pretty straightforward, but disappointing I know for people who are missing launch.

Obviously, I support people waiting for the official supported launch in the affected markets for the best experience ;)
Wynnebeck
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(08-16-2013, 12:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Nebula

It's a tag given by an Admin to you. It can't be changed by anyone but an Admin.

If he has a tag like that, it's because the Admin who gave it had a good reason to do so.
SwiftDeath
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(08-16-2013, 12:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Codernaut

CoD map packs were never region free.

I knew there were some exceptions to region freeness of 360 DLC but I thought it was for smaller games

COD map pack is like the quintessential DLC
Angelus Errare
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(08-16-2013, 12:14 AM)
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If they import and can't access XBL...how will they get the update to redact the DRM?
Albert Penello
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(08-16-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Marmaladefire

But do they get that Day 1 patch?

Yes. All consoles get the update.
Canis lupus
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(08-16-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Can I change my account region to any of the supported countries and get stuff from XBLA, and when Xbone officially launches over here change account region back?
Guymelef
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(08-16-2013, 12:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

Launch volumes are not really an issue. This was simply a software issue in terms of getting local language and voice support in the dash. it's pretty straightforward, but disappointing I know for people who are missing launch.

Obviously, I support people waiting for the official supported launch in the affected markets for the best experience ;)

What about Switzerland?
This year in France, Germany and Italy.
Three official Switzerland languages.
LTWheels
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(08-16-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Considering the EU zone, I guess a credit card any Euro country would work. Point cards and stuff like that for the 360 are just EU cards. Doesn't matter if you buy them in the UK or any other EU country.
rouken
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(08-16-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

I'm happy you keep posting on major threads like this, because the vagueness that PR will only help the negative spinners around here :)
Yoday
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(08-16-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Makes sense to me. I'm glad both Sony and MS are going region free this gen.
maquiladora
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(08-16-2013, 12:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

Launch volumes are not really an issue. This was simply a software issue in terms of getting local language and voice support in the dash. it's pretty straightforward, but disappointing I know for people who are missing launch.

Obviously, I support people waiting for the official supported launch in the affected markets for the best experience ;)

Working on the Swiss translation might take a while. I heard the Swiss language can be a real doozy.
Spider_Jerusalem
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(08-16-2013, 12:22 AM)
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If they'll still support PayPal (I don't see why not), it should be enough I think.

Originally Posted by maquiladora

Working on the Swiss translation might take a while. I heard the Swiss language can be a real doozy.

AFAIK, Xbox Live in Switzerland is still very problematic on 360. That's why they've got multiple "main" languages depending on where you live, so it happens you are in the Italian area but Live wants to give you only german contents and so on. I presume that's part of the problem.
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Omikaru
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(08-16-2013, 12:25 AM)
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If DLC is region free, that's a megaton. That's actually more progressive than Sony's system...
NuKERxyz
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(08-16-2013, 12:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Albert Penello

It's totally different.

First - all games are WW signed. Not all 360 games are.

Second - The console will work everywhere (keeping in mind Power Supplies)

Third - You can use one of the 13 digital marketplaces corresponding to our launch markets, assuming you have a valid payment instrument for those countries. Lots of people in Europe specifically travel, move, and visit family.

Now, of course, if you were using Pre-Paid cards... :)

You will still find that music and video content can be geo-restricted based on licensing. (e.g. Netflix works only in supported countries)

So i can buy digital things with my Credit Card from a country outside the 13list that as an adress associated outside of that list, in my account that its also outside that list?

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