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Jimmy Fallon faces backlash for Donald Trump interview
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Yeah when you are playfully rubbing the hair of someone who has called immigrants rapists and criminal and stokes the flames of people who view them as subhuman and encourages their Nazi like ways of dealing with "them"...
Let alone the fucking encyclopedia of horrible other shit.
Definitely makes me turn away from Jimmy Fallon.
Let alone the fucking encyclopedia of horrible other shit.
Definitely makes me turn away from Jimmy Fallon.
GamingOblivion
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comedians are still responsible for what they do and say
they are not immune from criticism and quite frankly "he's a comedian" really has lost its meaning on GAF as a defense for shitty ideas and actions.
Hasn't the comedian who comes on NBC after Falloon banned Trump for his hateful racist remarks?
Never said he wasn't. Neither though is your silly ideological purity demanding of all things and you getting all worked up and bothered while attributing so much power to frigging Jimmy Fallon.
we're violating their safe space
kame-sennin
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He should have David Duke on next.
petethepanda
Member
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree on Trump. I've just kind of accepted that late night shows like this are so far past the point of having any substance that they'll still have vile fuckheads like him on no matter what. I guess I'd be more disappointed in Fallon if I had thought there was even the slightest chance of him not having Trump on.
Edit: At this point, I guess my stance on late night shows and the greater media in general is a depressed acceptance that they'll normalize the insane fucking Trump candidacy simply because it means great ratings.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Fallon is one small piece of a larger media problem, but it is a demonstrative one that we can call out to make a point
Now I'm cursing at you too lol.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I know it's his scthick, what being Leno 2.0 and all, but he really did handle this poorly. He shouldn't have had him on at all if he wasn't going to hit him with hard questions. I don't care if it's because you're the nicest guy in the world. Trump deserves more than silly hair jokes now.
I think he should have broken script. I don't care if Trump got up and walked out because of it, it'd be good TV and get a lot of media talk about it. People would be applauding him instead of booing. He plays it too safe and that's his problem. But then again it is The Tonightt Show. Conan dodged a bullet by being fired. He's so much better off doing his own thing. TTS is way too controlled to do anything that could cause controversy. Mainly because of its audience.
I think he should have broken script. I don't care if Trump got up and walked out because of it, it'd be good TV and get a lot of media talk about it. People would be applauding him instead of booing. He plays it too safe and that's his problem. But then again it is The Tonightt Show. Conan dodged a bullet by being fired. He's so much better off doing his own thing. TTS is way too controlled to do anything that could cause controversy. Mainly because of its audience.
A Link to the Past
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Millions of people watch Jimmy Fallon, and for a candidate who is encouraging racism, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia, and whose words are shown to spur people to violence against these groups, Fallon should not be complicit in promoting this man. If he doesn't want to be complicit, or if he doesn't want to try to ask hard questions, he shouldn't have had him on in the first place,
...Yes?
You literally need to be unable to read your own posts to come to the conclusion that you are not using ad hominems or swearing at me. Clearly my posts upset you - I just don't know whether it was because I attacked Fallon or Trump.
entremet
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I enjoyed this. Thanks for posting this.
What? I'm not saying he's immune from criticism. If you don't like that Fallon did this, then criticize him all you want.
What I'm saying is I'm not quite sure what people expect him to do. His role as a comedian defines his intent and his content - he will deliver content to his audience to make them laugh. If he were to engage in political commentary he'd be stepping out of bounds.
Rabbi_Vole
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How so? Both serve to legitimize Trump.
WhateverItTakes
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maybe fallon is just bad at comedy if he can't intertwine the two
Jonm does this all the time. They get pissy with other posters whenever you try to discuss the topic in any meaningful manner and accuse people of doing things that they're doing. Among a lot of other nonsense. Often they're weirdly defending alt-right nonsense. Honestly, pay them no mind. They don't argue anywhere close to good-faith.
Not at all.
The point is if you hadn't known a thing about Trump and then you watched that interview, you'd have a positive perception of Donald Trump.
Trump has been on Kimmel and Colbert, and their interviews weren't anything like Fallon's.
Fallon actually normalized this terrible asshat.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
lol, are you really incapable of seeing the difference?
EnlightenedMint
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Some people acting like politicians go on late night just to have fun.
This is another campaign stop to sell themselves and their campaign to a broad audience, I wish the hosts would treat it same.
This is another campaign stop to sell themselves and their campaign to a broad audience, I wish the hosts would treat it same.
A Link to the Past
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Trump is already in the race, skipping the debates will not do anything to make him less legitimate a politician, especially given that the debates are not expected to help Trump in the polls.
excelsiorlef
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No I expect him not to invite Trump
I admit; I haven't seen the interview. I'll watch the videos linked in this thread from other late night comedians as well.
Criticise away, but recognise that Trump gets approval over his appearance like any guest. As is his right. Fallon going off script would be career suicide.
A Link to the Past
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Don't invite him on
I'll go with David Simon on this one.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
You seem to be using a False Dilemma argument.
There is a middle ground in questions. And if Trump would not agree to them, then he should not have been allowed onto the show.
bob_arctor
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Again, no one is asking Fallon to deliver a blistering screed against the piece of shit that is Trump but a free pass like this? Ridiculous.
You're living up to your tag.
Exactly. But they did. And once they did, this was always the way it'd go.
To think it'd go differently is asinine.
I agree with you in theory, but once he's announced they can't ditch him at short notice and look for someone new to guest. That's not how the show works.
I wouldn't have had him on at all, but once they did..,
Call out to who? The liberal Echo chamber of GAF. LOL. Changing the world, one GAF thread at a time.
Good work on changing the minds
of all those people that certainly were just waiting for Jimmy to interview Trump before deciding their vote.
There is certainly a cable and network news problem, one that existed long before Trump, not so sure about much beyond that, but Jimmy Fallon is about the most insignificant part of all that lol. And to get so worked up as to actually start a thread whining about why the most goofball, non confrontational late show host acted like a goofball and non confrontational is absurd.
-Plasma Reus-
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Fallon is disgusting.
It's people like him that enable people like Trump.
It's people like him that enable people like Trump.
Heavy_D206
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Fallon doesn't book his guests, the producers do.
Also, Ratings are a real thing and Fallon's bosses take them very seriously.
InfiniteBento
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Personally, I find him hosting Trump to be disgusting. He paid someone who is openly a bigot to come onto his show for entertainment purposes, which is the same as paying him directly to support his campaign. Putting money in his pocket in any regard goes hand in hand with supporting him, imo. He used Trump for views without any regard to the countless of people Trump shits all over on a daily basis which is tasteless beyond belief.
CreepingFear
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It reminds me of that guy who used to hang around Bears. It was cute until his girlfriend and him were eaten alive. It's not cute anymore when this dangerous man is so close to the Presidency.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Fallon has always seemed like this barely real fake plastic person that will do whatever the generic talk show host job required. He just affably giggles at whatever is socially expected, and onto the next segment and stilted joke read.
A cardboard cutout of a man and it won't take much outside critical force to tip him over permanently.
A cardboard cutout of a man and it won't take much outside critical force to tip him over permanently.
Catastrophizing distilled.
Rabbi_Vole
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Ha. I was doing a bit of research on "equal time" rules and apparently news programs are exempt. Under the FCC, The The Tonight Show is classified as a news program and therefore not required to give equal time to Clinton and Trump.
A Link to the Past
Banned
If this is the case, criticizing "the producers" is less effective than criticizing Fallon. By criticizing Fallon, there is the possibility of having the viewers and/or Fallon influence the producers' decisions with respect to how they conduct such situations in the future.
Refusing to engage in the discussion and instead focusing on the people involved does not make for a good thread.
ldcommando
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that´s it, if trump wins I´m blaming fallon
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
You think I'm just vocalizing this on GAF?
I've generally felt that Fallon is an affable guy and a decent host for a late night program. While the content is vapid and silly he's always a good sport, and seems to enjoy his work while building a rapport with his guests. However, the stakes were too damn high to invite Trump on during this election. If he gets elected it's because of people like Fallon who attempted to normalize the man behind his abhorrent policies and racist ideas. Anyone who says "oh, comedy is apolitical" is living in some nostalgic, fantasy land of the past.
Therefore, fuck Fallon. He's not an idiot, yet he showed a total lack of judgment in bringing this monster on. A Trump presidency could literally destroy the world economy and rob America of its credibility for decades. It could ruin the lives of millions of people. If that happens, rating seeking schmucks like Fallon are partially responsible.
I don't plan on ever watching his show again.
Therefore, fuck Fallon. He's not an idiot, yet he showed a total lack of judgment in bringing this monster on. A Trump presidency could literally destroy the world economy and rob America of its credibility for decades. It could ruin the lives of millions of people. If that happens, rating seeking schmucks like Fallon are partially responsible.
I don't plan on ever watching his show again.
The Real Napsta
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Never?
redmetal86
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Isn't this the second time Fallon's had him on the show? Post presidential run announcement that is.
Rabbi_Vole
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Not trying to troll. Many in here are literally equating Trump to Hitler. Would anyone get on a stage with such a vile piece of shit? I'm trying to understand the difference. On principle, they seem similar.
I'm sorry.
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