Comparing the dev Nintendo Switch Pro controller (left) to the final version (right).
I like the new semi-transparent look to it. Makes it different from Wii controllers.
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Rumor: Switch developer information leaked. Reveals A TON incl. hardware specs
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I like the new semi-transparent look to it. Makes it different from Wii controllers.
AtomicShroom
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Uh and you think that all 4GBs on the Switch will be available for the games? What sort of magic do you expect the Switch to employ to run its OS on? Fairy dust? You can be sure that a very sizeable portion of that RAM is going to be reserved for the OS and that overlay menu. So in the end, Switch will not have 4x RAM as the Wii U, not even close.
Dark Cloud
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The final version looks better by a mileComparing the dev Nintendo Switch Pro controller (left) to the final version (right).
UnemployedVillain
Member
The Wii U couldn't use 2GB for games. It used 1, and the Switch has 3.25 usable. Why people on here are so adamant and confident when spouting ignorance, I'll never understand
wild wild rice
Member
Yep, already have a PS4 for those games.
Trustworthy posters seem to put a docked Switch at roughly halfway between a Wii U and an XB1, which works for me. I played Wii U games right alongside the PS4 and never felt like I was having a lesser experience in any significant way. As long as the art and game design are good, I'll quickly forgetting about missing effects, etc.
Skittzo0413
Member
Pretty much. Nobody reasonable said it would be at PS4 levels, slightly below XB1 levels was always the max.
Well, seeing as their mac address and ip are on the images, I imagine so
MadLaughter
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So, for the layperson that knows almost nothing except the current console power rankings, how powerful is the switch?
Breath of the wild runs a lot more stable on Switch portable mode than Wii U. Arms probably would have to be downgrade on Wii U.
unbiasedgamer
Neo Member
Take the joy cons off, then ask again why this isn't as powerful as a PS4 Pro
You seem to understand what some have a hard time grasping.
OrbitalBeard
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Switch can use 3.2 gigs for software. So, over 3x instead of 4x. Thing is, I already admitted I was off there. Again, you have a really bad attitude and have for the entirely of these conversations over the months. Enough with this persecution complex of yours.
Well the leak says 3.25 available so that would be closer the 4 than 2.
darkazcura
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Well this is pretty subjective. I don't feel like Mario looks like a Wii U game. Now what?
We really haven't seen enough footage from Switch games to really pin this down exactly, but if the rumored specs are true then there really isn't much room for argument here. Modern architecture and engine support alone puts it above.
Also the usable RAM for games is 1 GB vs 3.25 GB based on the rumors. It has 3.25x more RAM available for use in games.
Well, seeing as their mac address and ip are on the images, I imagine so
Those are Nintendo's images, you know that?
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
32 GB as the limit is not a huge deal.
FFXV is not coming to Switch, good luck getting that to run even if file size wasn't a concern.
Mass Effect: Andromeda is not coming to Switch, and I repeat, good luck getting that to run even if file size wasn't a concern.
It's not worth it for those publishers to bring their meatiest modern AAA titles to a system that's too weak to run them without serious downgrades, modern architecture or not. The cost of larger cartridges (perhaps built into the licencing fee) just doesn't go away, nor does the Switch's low power in comparison to even a vanilla PS4/XB1, especially in portable mode.
FFXV is not coming to Switch, good luck getting that to run even if file size wasn't a concern.
Mass Effect: Andromeda is not coming to Switch, and I repeat, good luck getting that to run even if file size wasn't a concern.
It's not worth it for those publishers to bring their meatiest modern AAA titles to a system that's too weak to run them without serious downgrades, modern architecture or not. The cost of larger cartridges (perhaps built into the licencing fee) just doesn't go away, nor does the Switch's low power in comparison to even a vanilla PS4/XB1, especially in portable mode.
Of course my number was correct (3.2gb) or close to it, but does this leak or any other yet corroborate it? Still haven't had time to look at this leak in detail. I remember Nate said 3gb at one point.
Zombegoast
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People need to stop comparing flops. On paper a 6990 destroys a gtx 1060 but in reality performs worse
Nvidia's drivers are 30-40% more efficient, which is irrelevant when it comes to consoles.
Yeah, it's like fourth row down in the table in the OP.
It's in a table in the OP.
JaseMath
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Comparing the dev Nintendo Switch Pro controller (left) to the final version (right).
Can't wait to get my mitts around the ProCon. Hopefully the final buttons are more tactile than the previews mention. Some people weren't left very impressed with the feel of the buttons/D-pad.
Ah missed that on my quick glance. Trying to keep up with the discussion now while I do some other business 👌🏻
Inferno313
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Noticeably better than WiiU, still significantly weaker than the other two.
Evil people needn't be bad parents.
Mr. Badger
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It's a powerful portable console.
I'm going from playing 3DS Nintendo games to Switch Nintendo games on the go.
But you've just kinda shown my point. I've specifically said that the only difference between a game docked and portable will be nothing more than a different resolution and you've then gone and listed different resolutions for games depending on whether they are docked or portable.
I just can't see Nintendo offering significant graphical differences depending on whether you're docked or undocked, and there sure as hell won't be additional features depending on the mode either.
What are people expecting exactly? Low settings on portable and medium or high while docked lol? Exclusive games that take advantage of the hardware while docked? Additional features while docked? Higher framerates, so 30fps portable and 60fps docked? I can't see any of that happening...At all.
It's as simple as this. Higher resolution while docked, lower resolution while portable. The game is the same aside from that.
The funny thing is that the specs here tell us absolutely nothing: they are base specs for a standard Tegra X1 with very limited Switch-specific information. There is hardly anything to discuss about that, so we are basically only doing the Eurogamer vs. Foxconn game again and are refuting misinformation about the pre-reveal speculation.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Great to see this, the default software UI is very isolated.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
They're used to Hacks by now.
Inferno313
Banned
Yep, which is why, if the whole Foxconn enhanced dock rumor turns out to be true, I imagine it'll be a special dock that is used solely to render games in 4K, not to improve effects or complexity.
But this isn't true. The highest level-headed estimates were ~768GFLOPS, which at 720p, could provide some nice visuals.
the call came from inside....
Polygonal_Sprite
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Damn these leakers for doing what Nintendo haven't!
It was one of the first things I looked for to see if you were 100% on the mark, I think you were close enough!
So it says:
Wired LAN - USB connection option, 1 gigabit per second
How are they getting that 1 gigabit per second stat?
If the dock is limited to USB 2.0 currently, and the LAN adapter sold at stores seems to also be just a USB 2.0 adapter ? How are they getting a 1 Gigabit over USB 2.0 ports?
Wired LAN - USB connection option, 1 gigabit per second
How are they getting that 1 gigabit per second stat?
If the dock is limited to USB 2.0 currently, and the LAN adapter sold at stores seems to also be just a USB 2.0 adapter ? How are they getting a 1 Gigabit over USB 2.0 ports?
You are ignoring the fact that, if your assumption that resolution is the only thing that changes between modes is correct, there should not be a difference in resolution jump between for example Zelda and Mario Kart. The fact that it is there means one of two things: Zelda is less optimised for dock mode than Mario Kart (not very likely imo) or they do in fact introduce some different graphical improvements in dock mode instead a straight 720p-1080p resolution increase.
I played a few rounds of Splatoon 2 and USF, honestly, it's fucking amazing. The large buttons and d-pad are very comfortable and give a nice feedback, the material on the grips is very good too. Of course, this is immensely subjective, but I didn't feel that at all.
Shadow Broker
Banned
I don't understand what that means. It's not my point to do any math. You said you find the Switch unimpressive which is cool because opinions and all but also compared it to phones and tablets.
I simply want a example of a phone or tablet that can run Zelda BOTW or any other Wii U or Switch game that's not a indie without it being streamed threw the internet.
I find something impressive and you don't and made a statement why you don't. I'll just like you to show me why you think this. Tech doesn't mean anything unless it's being used heavily for the topic at hand.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Question: will performance (framepacing, frames per second, etc)see a hit while portable?
I like 'voodoo child' A cool nod to your avatar and your insider info
Nice. Or "the wind cries switch leaks" lol.
Which would be perfect as there would be no real fragmentation, and it wouldn't affect development in any meaningful way.
It would be the equivalent of the Xbox One S, a device that can output at 4k, that's it. As opposed to the OG Xbox One, or the OG Switch dock that can only output 1080p.
tkscz
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Take the joy cons off, then ask again why this isn't as powerful as a PS4 Pro
Because it's not $700? People who bring of phones will always confuse me. "Why isn't this $300 handheld device as powerful as my $800 phone?"
Not to mention architecture is different.
Yes, actually the devs cant sell DLC outside their own games. That means whenever there is a first week free dlc, you need to own the game to access their custom eshop to get it.
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