Anton Sugar
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I personally don't like P2P. First time I played on my brother's 360 I thought, "What the hell? Where is the server list?"
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Hubris and Bullshit: Modern Warfare 2 PC will not allow dedicated servers.
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You mean they listen to the pubmasters that post on steam forums. Fuck that game now, I quit playing seriously after they removed crouch hopping. Catering to pubstars isn't how you "fix" the game. They should have listened to what ESEA and GotFrag wanted since people there were actually serious about it.
Play ESEA or scrim then, pubs aren't the only option.Ogs said:
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
corkscrewblow said:
Community ruined it for me (hey, lets make every server dust2 24/7 deathmatch mod, YAY, we dont like variation!).
Who knows, maybe this P2P thing is a blessing in disguise, il always be able to have some variety in my matches instead of douchebag server admin not liking that his arse got handed to him so i get kicked :lol
Anton Sugar
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MrPing1000
Member
corkscrewblow said:
CS:S is still a better game than the clusterfuck that is DoD:S
br0ken_shad0w
Member
Frankly Valve has dropped a few notches for the way they've handled the items in TF2, but we're off topic here.
And kamspy's argument is :lol
And kamspy's argument is :lol
Seriously people, we need to make a stand on this. Activision are trying to screw us because they know we will lie down and take it just to play their game. We need to hit them where it hurts, a full boycott of Activision games on ALL platforms, we need to remind them that without us their code is worthless!
There are plenty of other amazing games out there that deserve YOUR hard earned cash, keep the $60 Activision want to take off you and spend it on something you wouldn't normally buy, check out the indie scene or even just a genre you've so far ignored.
Make a stand NEOGAF! It's not going to be easy but remember, without us they're nothing!
There are plenty of other amazing games out there that deserve YOUR hard earned cash, keep the $60 Activision want to take off you and spend it on something you wouldn't normally buy, check out the indie scene or even just a genre you've so far ignored.
Make a stand NEOGAF! It's not going to be easy but remember, without us they're nothing!
I know this is melodramatic but this news has given me the RAGE!!!
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Make a stand ! Buy Operation Flashpoint 2 instead :lol
Anton Sugar
Member
Ogs said:
A game that had consoles as it's lead platform? Bit inappropriate, don't you think? Go go Borderlands!
Lostconfused
Member
Well my WoW subscription slipped and I already bought Dragon Age on steam. So yeah i am think i am good for this one.HK-47 said:
Uncle Dukey
Member
I'm sure it will still sell great, but I won't be purchasing this anymore. Very disappointing news.
I swear, I've listened to that webcast three times now, and the news of know dedi-servs just registered in my mind.
They knew damn well how severe the backlash would be, so why would you be stubborn enough to push forward with this move?
My conspiracy mind tells me that the guys at IW wanted the PC community to quit them, so they could quit the PC community without looking like sellouts. Modern Warfare 3, Xbox 360 exclusive.
They knew damn well how severe the backlash would be, so why would you be stubborn enough to push forward with this move?
My conspiracy mind tells me that the guys at IW wanted the PC community to quit them, so they could quit the PC community without looking like sellouts. Modern Warfare 3, Xbox 360 exclusive.
If it weren't for COD4's multipalyer (my first experience with COD multi) I probably would've still bought the game just for the campaign. I enjoyed it that much. At this point I'll probably rent MW2 on PS3 to see if its campaign is still just as good.
For now though it looks like that money is going towards... Phantasy Star Zero?
For now though it looks like that money is going towards... Phantasy Star Zero?
theignoramus
Member
Doesnt effect me, but it strikes me as a dirty and self serving gesture from IW and Activision. Shame on anyone trying to spin it as anything other than what it is.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Im listening to it now from about 1 hour 25 mins, and these lot sound like the types that care more about the cl_updaterate console commands rather than the game itself, they really seem to have invested alot of themselves into this. The kind of people who winge at you in a CS server if your "rates" dont satisfy them.
I like these communities that put alot into there games, but ffs, they really paint a grim picture of things, listening to this all i can think of is some destroyed russian village with unhappy people everywhere.
Edit - Ouch the silence after the bombshell :lol
Edit - No Punkbuster ? THANK FUCK ! At least theres some good news. Everyone on Steam ? Could be good, what with all of Steams community features. We need more tech info from IW about all this tbh, alot of significant changes have been made.
I like these communities that put alot into there games, but ffs, they really paint a grim picture of things, listening to this all i can think of is some destroyed russian village with unhappy people everywhere.
Edit - Ouch the silence after the bombshell :lol
Edit - No Punkbuster ? THANK FUCK ! At least theres some good news. Everyone on Steam ? Could be good, what with all of Steams community features. We need more tech info from IW about all this tbh, alot of significant changes have been made.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
They'll make more back from all those that won't be able to pirate it. Plus they've got the DLC this time, as well, so if they do actually sell fewer copies, they can claw back some money with the DLC.tHoMNZ said:
Majority of those people will probably cave and buy the game, anyway.
Dead Man Typing
Member
Acti-Devil strikes again.
This will be interesting to see how this evolves.
This will be interesting to see how this evolves.
-- If it wasn't before, this game is now set to shatter some torrent records due partly to the backlash this is generating. PC gamers scorned and all that.cjelly said:
-- It will also drive a lot of used purchases from those that drop the game now but come back later to try out MP anyways - which is even worse from Activisions point of view as that cash is going to Gamestop and friends.
-- Given that its clans and private servers that are propping up the huge PC MW1 playerbase, and ALL of those are going away, I don't think they will see much from this. But I suppose even $1 eeked out from the decimated PC MW2 playerbase is a "win" for them.
They're delusional if they think this will reduce piracy.
One of the greatest deterrents against piracy is a solid, populated multiplayer component. Sure, there's cracked servers, but they're usually horrible experiences filled with hacks and cheats. People playing on them would have no intention of buying the game in the first place.
By essentially giving the finger to the PC community, they're removing the appeal of multiplayer. Now, people will just pirate it to play the single player and continue playing another online shooter.
One of the greatest deterrents against piracy is a solid, populated multiplayer component. Sure, there's cracked servers, but they're usually horrible experiences filled with hacks and cheats. People playing on them would have no intention of buying the game in the first place.
By essentially giving the finger to the PC community, they're removing the appeal of multiplayer. Now, people will just pirate it to play the single player and continue playing another online shooter.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
mandiller said:
Would be perfect imo, everyone would be happy. 1 of the things i loved about MW on the 360 was that i was hooked up with a bunch of random peeps within seconds, and all we wanted to do was just play the vanilla game with a nice rotation of maps, thats what i and i guess many find to be the perfect online gaming session.
Modded up servers are absolutely great when you fancy some of that, but when a game turns into CS where nearly every server is a custom map with some annoying rules and nearly impossible to find a nice vanilla server with a nice variety of maps (not just fucking dust2), it ends up sucking hard for me (and my many friends that used to play it, and dont thanks to crap like this, downloading 100's of UT sounds before getting into a game because the admin wants people to hear HEADSHOT a hundred times, grrr).
BF2 has also turned into this, Infantry Only Karkand 24/7, great game ruined by a boring community (imo).
Also, have none of the guys in that show tried MW1 on the 360 ? To see how things run for themselves ? Before they go all melodramatic over it they should really look into how the consoles handle the P2P systems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI
SenorDingDong
Member
Oh well, one less game to buy this year which is fine. It's a shame as the multiplayer looked like it would be fun. I'll just hire the game on 360 or PS3 for a run through the singleplayer.
So seriously, no dedicated servers for MW2?
The main reason I buy and play first person shooters is for the online communities. Well admin-d servers are a plus, too.
The dedicated server worked fine for CoD and its extensions, and is still working fine for CoD4.
Ridiculous. No sale for me.
Reminds me...I need to start a thread about what fps's have good multiplayer communities.
The main reason I buy and play first person shooters is for the online communities. Well admin-d servers are a plus, too.
The dedicated server worked fine for CoD and its extensions, and is still working fine for CoD4.
Ridiculous. No sale for me.
Reminds me...I need to start a thread about what fps's have good multiplayer communities.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
alba said:They still ruined Counter-Strike with source
Apart from CS source still play better than the majority of FPS out there
I'm also not getting why people are bitching about the 1.6 community; if you found a decent enough server (and they weren't hard to find) then you could have a great online experience. Hell outside of when I've played with friends I'd say that the best online sessions I've had have been on 1.6 servers.
LowParry
Member
And a petition has started. I guess it's worth a shot.
http://www.infinityward.com//forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121918
http://www.infinityward.com//forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121918
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
I wonder if it still has lean in it......
Zombie James
Banned
CcrooK said:
Considering the game's going to be released in less than a month, I doubt this will have any impact.
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Deleted member 17706
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cjelly said:
Wait, why won't people pirate this one? If anything, this will be one of the most pirates games in existence considering how they have raised the price and gimped the multiplayer for PC gamers.
I put little faith in internet petitions, but I see no reason why anyone could cave in and buy the game this time around. I mean the Left 4 Dead 2 petition was bullshit. This time around it is Activision removing an integral feature of PC shooters only so they can gank people on DLC maps on top of charging a higher price.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this game gets pirated to hell and people figure out a way to modify the game files to allow people to host unofficial servers. Either way, this probably signals the end of the Call of Duty series on PC. It's too bad because I really enjoyed CoD4 multiplayer and will probably keep playing it for a while.