righthandmouse
Banned
No way to do it in game? Options there, but it won't let me change it. Tried full screen, exclusive, windowed, v-sync off, and still grayed out. First time I've seen this.
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DF: Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4 vs XB1
- Thread starter Caayn
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Nope X1 have worst AA, listen the video.
Dictator93
Member
????
I am pretty sure the video highlights the fact that AA between console versions, minus 360 version, is the exact same.
edit: not even 1 minute into the video John already talks about the AA being the same
Yup, thought the same.
antyk
Member
I think he might have meant higher - on PS4 - specular reflections setting, which alleviates shader aliasing on thin geometry as discussed from 2:45 in the video?
Up resolution until you hit 30fps
You wouldn't want to do it ingame anyway. 4 out of 5 times it feels way worse than the RTSS method.
ethomaz
Banned
AF is the same across PS4 and Xbone but it is bad no matter what.
360 AF is superior and that is ridiculous.
Always-honest
Banned
I did... After just having watched the screens.
And i hope the shimmering is gone on PS4 Pro.
There is some specular reflection artifacts that give extra jaggies on the XboxOne version
ethomaz
Banned
Good god - that's....brutal.
Thanks for posting this. 360 version is it for now unless this is fixed in a patch for the PS4.
CyberChulo
Member
I did it using RivaTuner. Just type in 30 and it start working automatically. I can confirm that on PC there is no lag issue when running at 30fps. Nixxes gotta fix this shit.
CyberChulo
Member
Bro. Trust me. The lag is clear as daylight. Just for fun I connected my computer and ran ROTTR at 60fps and capped at 30fps. No lag on PC in either mode. Night and day difference between the PC and PS4 versions.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
For the lag in the PC version, I wonder if it matters which GPU (nvidia or ati) you're using. Maybe it's an ATI driver thing. Or perhaps, the lag won't be there if you have a beastly PC capable of running this game at 60+FPS but capping it at 30. If someone is trying to check this in a most like for like scenario on PC, they should try on a configuration similar to PS4. Like that config DF was using for a budget PC testing.
XB1 version still has more alisasing in places due to a lower quality specular reflection quality implementation. He shows it later. That's probably what the poster you were replying to was talking about.
Always-honest
Banned
He was talking about AA.
Unless he made the same mistake as i did and though the 360 version was the XboxOne version in that one screen.
Or maybe he was talking about that... but then he should have specified it.
Hitokiri03
Member
Excellent video analysis dark10x as always.
It seems a good port on the graphical part.
The control thing remind me the GTA V remastered deadzone issue that the game had when it launched.
It seems a good port on the graphical part.
The control thing remind me the GTA V remastered deadzone issue that the game had when it launched.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You were right and I was wrong
If I notice it, it's bad and boy is it bad. Sorry for being so blunt last night.
FoxnHurley
Member
It's not input lag. The issue is a noticeable dead zone before Lara will actually move or aim. I've had to fight with it while using the pistol or bow, making headshots more difficult than they need to be. You get used to it, but still, it shouldn't be there.
The game looks gorgeous, and traversing the Siberian terrain has been very responsive and fluid so far. The challenge tombs are a huge improvement compared to the ones in TR 13. Do yourself a favor and switch off survivor's instinct. Makes exploration so much more enjoyable, as your eyes aren't assaulted with highlighted objects that detract you from enjoying the beautiful vistas.
Been rocking the TR 3 Antarctica outfit, which is definitely my favorite one out of the bunch so far. Pure nostalgia and the orange jacket and camouflaged pants provides a nice contrast to the icy terrain.
All in all, aside from the dead zone nuisance, I've been loving the game so far. Great port, Nixxes!
Watch the slow mo video again. There is lag after the stick is released, before movement occurs. That is input lag.
360: Move stick to right and center >>> Camera Moves
One/PS4: Move stick to right and center >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camera Moves
ethomaz
Banned
There is input lag... the dead zone is another issue that I don't know if it exists on PS4 (needs to check but I won't buy the game in this shame state).
FoxnHurley
Member
I haven't noticed it while making gross movements on the thumbsticks, only the dead zone when trying to make subtle adjustments while aiming at something. I'll have to check it when I get home. Sorry for misinformation, all!
Its not. Played and finished the game on XB1 and enjoyed it, currently working on the DLC.
Did the original release ever get fixed in the year since it was launched?
I've played games before where people have complained about issues with the controller like this but I've played those games and I've been OK with them but this game has really been an issue for me. I was going to do it anyway to get the improvements but I'm really hoping that the Pro version doesn't have the same controller issues.
I've played games before where people have complained about issues with the controller like this but I've played those games and I've been OK with them but this game has really been an issue for me. I was going to do it anyway to get the improvements but I'm really hoping that the Pro version doesn't have the same controller issues.
JonathanPower
Member
That's just plain incompetence.
CouchMaster
Member
WickedLaharl
Member
Son Of Sparda
Member
Yes, unfortunately it is.
I'm enjoying the game right now, but I'm just going all stealth and avoiding combat as much as I can.
NeoRaider
Member
Link for the full PC vs. PS4 vs. XB1 comparison:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-ps4-face-off
When i open the comparison screenshots in new tabs, it's clear how well done PC version is. Those textures...
I am not saying that PS4/XB1 version looks bad, far from that but what they did with the PC version is really amazing.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-ps4-face-off
When i open the comparison screenshots in new tabs, it's clear how well done PC version is. Those textures...
I am not saying that PS4/XB1 version looks bad, far from that but what they did with the PC version is really amazing.
OK, just played TRE immediately after playing ROTTR (both on the PS4) and I can confirm the difference in input lag is night and day, especially during combat.
In TRE I can move the the reticle precisely where I want when I want, and can consistently pull of headshots after headshots in the heat of combat. In ROTTR, this snappiness is nowhere to be found.
TRE the response I get from my input is very snappy and quick, whereas ROTTR everything feels sluggish. Perhaps this contrast is exaggerated by the fact that I played them back to back, but there is no doubt ROTTR's input delay is much worse than TRE.
E immediately after playing ROTTR (both on the PS4) and I can confirm the difference in input lag is night and day, especially during combat.In TR
E I can move the the reticle precisely where I want when I want, and can consistently pull of headshots after headshots in the heat of combat. In ROTTR, this snappiness is nowhere to be found.TR
E the response I get from my input is very snappy and quick, whereas ROTTR everything feels sluggish. Perhaps this contrast is exaggerated by the fact that I played them back to back, but there is no doubt ROTTR's input delay is much worse than TRE.Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
This is absurd, won't touch it with a 10ft pole even on sale (which, like every SE game before it, will probably be a month from now to drop 50% in the UK)
I feel like disastrous input lag is a solid reason to maybe not use that engine then.
Insane Metal
Member
Jakartalado
Member
I'll hold this one.
The reboot was a sucess and I bought with -50% in one month. It will happen as well since the X1 version is around 15-20U$.
Nixxes did an amazing jog fixing the motion blur and missing shadows, not to mention the rock solid 30 fps.
Sadly the poor job with the engine and the lack of patches from Crystal Dynamics makes the X1 and PS4 version feel terrible.
The reboot was a sucess and I bought with -50% in one month. It will happen as well since the X1 version is around 15-20U$.
Nixxes did an amazing jog fixing the motion blur and missing shadows, not to mention the rock solid 30 fps.
Sadly the poor job with the engine and the lack of patches from Crystal Dynamics makes the X1 and PS4 version feel terrible.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
That's my biggest take away from all this. Amazing how they managed to squeeze that out of a machine from 2005.
The best part is that they actually sent out a patch like 2 months after release that made it look better adding more effects and vegetation and stuff. Nixxes are the best in the business for optimization, that I don't doubt a little bit.
To be fair if they played it on PC or 360 they have a defensible opinion.
Journey
Banned
high res specular also mean less shaders aliasing, which will make the overall iq looks cleaner. People are confused between actual jaggy and shaders aliasing, but still a valid complain.