GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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Konami's new CEO: Mobile is the future of gaming, is Konami's main platform
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EviLore loves all his children, breh
SweetJohnnyCage
Member
They will likely make a decent amount of money, but it's a damn shame that they destroyed their IPs and abandoned those who wanted to keep them great.
vagabondarts
Member
I hope for legislation against gacha pull and pay to decrease timer "game mechanics". This would leave all of these companies racing to take advantage of people, with no strategy forward.
Yes, please go all-in on mobile. Chart that brave course, Konami.
Yes, please go all-in on mobile. Chart that brave course, Konami.
They deserve it for what they did to Kojima and Silent Hills. Fuck em.
(Though seriously, I don't want the innocent people that didn't make these decisions to be without work)
Baron_Calamity
Member
I wonder why AAA developers are jumping to C level gaming in mobile instead of B level gaming via digital direct?
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Without wanting to sound snarky, the exact opposite is true. The control method is perhaps the worst thing about the entire experience. Touch screen controls are miserable, and always will be.
I know you can get some decent games on mobile now, the problem is that they are an absolute pig to actually play. Unless I have precise controls, I'm going to rage quit almost immediately.
Less risk, higher potential reward.
njean777
Member
They want to become the next clash of clans basically. I understand the appeal, but the chances of becoming the next clash of clans is like .01%.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Incredible how a CEO can bury decades of gaming legacy with some stupid ass short sighted decisions. Even if the money it's on mobile, without any talent developing your games there's no hope for you.
i think mcdonalds makes way more money than the average restaurant
they'll put that talent in making expecially good bad games
Astral Dog
Member
I just hope MGR 2 is still a thing. :-(
exmachina64
Banned
Mobile's already killed consoles in Japan.
Firelord Chargrilled
Banned
Wow this is shit news but considering everything they have done the last few months it comes at no surprise.
I didnt know that...and now I'm mad at you that I do.
o..m..g...
I hope this isnt the future for Metal Gear...
Tizoc
Member
I would like to present some evidence to support mobile having interesting games~
The problem with the big companies like Konami is that they're in it just for the quick buck rahter than releasing an actual good game in similar vein to the above.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
They've killed all the hype I had for MGSV and Castlevania is long dead.
I hope this company crashes and burns.
I hope this company crashes and burns.
Because, you know, Konami has been releasing so many Silent Hill games otherwise.
I think people are feeling threatened: the style of game they like (and the platforms they prefer) are gradually moving out of the "mainstream" or are being marginalized.
And that's true, to an extent, but it's not unique to gamers or this time period. The music you grow up with eventually moves out of the spotlight; jazz was replaced by classic rock was replaced by 80s rock was replaced by grunge was replaced by rap, and so forth. The style of movies you grow up with go out of style (think of the older people who feel that black and white films were the golden age of cinema, or that "talkies" somehow harmed the medium). It's just a natural consequence of a changing world; the stuff you like is eventually no longer hot shit.
And people don't like that feeling. I'm not saying that it's appropriate to be so irrationally angry about something that is a natural, inevitable process, but I understand where they're coming from, at least.
Shyakugaun
Banned
Mr. Giggles
Member
features like running faster, more ammo etc?
*sigh.. not like this man....not like this
It's chicken and the egg isn't it? Consumers will buy consoles if 1) the games are there and 2) they don't sell them for 9000+ freak'n yen. I know there are still many many people into console games but they have lost the casual market due to these factors. They are in a long recession and most people who aren't hardcore into it don't have the money to spend on current game prices.
Can't argue with 1 million profit a day. Mobile also squashes the price barriers, used game debates, and everything that can dive into company profits. Games on consoles will eventually move into this format because, well, they will have to. The model of everyone selling their games after 1 month to by an expensive new release or wait till its on sale or used is not sustainable for everyone unless the game is extremely cheap to make
For me and you, sure. But for children, parents and new gamers in general, touch controls are some of the most intuitive stuff out there for nowcomers. Especially children take to touch control so easily, I've seen that first hand many times.
Also for me playing first-person shooters with a gamepad is a miserable experience, back in the late 90's this was an opinion held by the majority, gamepads suck for shooters compared to a mouse, they'll never catch on for the genre. And yet now that people have gotten used to them, they put up with their flaws due to convenience and now it feels right to them, a large portion of the market exclusively uses these imprecise gamepads to play these games. This will echo touch controls for certain genres. Pretty much every console shooter plays 'like a pig' to me, doesn't mean much when gamepads are more convenient and have a lower barrier for entry for most people.
More_Badass
Member
To be fair, we got the excellent Hitman Go from Square Enix, MH Unite from Capcom, Dead Space from EA, etc.
Honestly Hitman Go is the gold standard IMO. It took the core concepts of the series, the methodical stealth-puzzle element, and built it from the ground up for mobile. The board game aesthetic didnt hurt either
Japanese mobile games suffer from predatory tactics that target that gambling thrill with limited time Gatcha events. And it works so insanely well
I mean look at what Monster Strike is doing.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1045495
I really liked Monster Strike and Puzzle and Dragons, but I really don't like the gambling aspects of those games.
JadedWriter
Member
Can they just sell the Castlevania IP to Sony and From software already? Please...pretty please?
The execs there enabled that move though , Dragon Quest games aren't being put on consoles so why would Japanese players want to game on a console that doesn't have it? I'm sure if more Japanese established franchises were on PS4 they would sell a lot better there.
crazyrabbits
Banned
On one hand, I can see where they're coming from. The gaming industry has become more and more insular and overbloated, to the point that there's no middle ground and everything's either indie or AAA. Wanting to get out of that in favor of a market that offers high returns for low investments is one of the most sound business decisions you can make in any industry, regardless of who you are.
However, the way they've gone about it has been despicable. Basically thumbing their noses at people, disrespecting their talent and assuming that the mobile bubble will last forever wasn't the right way to go about things.
It's all about chasing that Clash of Clans money, but very few (if any) are going to see that kind of success.
However, the way they've gone about it has been despicable. Basically thumbing their noses at people, disrespecting their talent and assuming that the mobile bubble will last forever wasn't the right way to go about things.
It's all about chasing that Clash of Clans money, but very few (if any) are going to see that kind of success.
I know the mobile game market has a ton of growth but as someone that started with an NES I fucking hate that companies are focusing so much on it.
I love my Vita and 3DS but as an adult my primary gaming preference will ALWAYS be on a TV or monitor hooked to to my gaming PC and consoles.
I love my Vita and 3DS but as an adult my primary gaming preference will ALWAYS be on a TV or monitor hooked to to my gaming PC and consoles.
Mobile is definitely is here to stay and while it won't eliminate other gaming platforms it shouldn't be ignored and it's not as bad as people make it out to be.
What we need right now is more companies offering good games for it and for Google and Apple to start promoting a more premium environment that convinces people to pay for games instead of pouring money in skinner boxes.
There are still some ways to go but a strong mobile industry is a good thing for sure. Now I just need to buy an Ipad because my android tablet isn't cutting for it.
What we need right now is more companies offering good games for it and for Google and Apple to start promoting a more premium environment that convinces people to pay for games instead of pouring money in skinner boxes.
There are still some ways to go but a strong mobile industry is a good thing for sure. Now I just need to buy an Ipad because my android tablet isn't cutting for it.
Well Konami had one in development that was looking pretty damn awesome. But nope, it was for consoles so it had to die.
They really should if they aren't going to do anything meaningful with them. They may have to if you follow this vein to its logical conclusion. The MGS and Castlevania franchises become nearly worthless if you put them on a platform like mobile that cannot support them. I think selling them or licensing them out either actual Game Developmental companies rather than mobile money chasing devs would most likely be more profitable. I don't think theres much appeal in developing and selling these types of franchises and MGS Card Battle or whatever they will most likely become.
Well yeah, that's why people hate seeing companies say they're dissapointed their game didn't sell 10 million in one day, complaining about the pool of diverse games shrinking or a genre disappearing because reasons and is heralding the rise of indies.
He said he wants the console games they're developing now to do well, note he specifically said MGSV. He then goes on to say that he's looking for opportunity to bring those IPs to mobile.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Oh, I agree, I'm just saying short-sighted men in suits chasing fat money targets they can't ever reach is by no means solely the providence of the mobile space
But the marketplace is already flooded and their isn;t the demand for new games every year.
Glendemonium
Member
I've always thought these companies need to make multiple millions to stay afloat. AAA publishers kind of bought this on themselves since the market is hardly sustainable now. I've seen less 60 dollar games this gen than the last, and the last one before that.
AAA games are shrinking and costing too much to make, mobile is the new golden egg. Despite what many of us think about freemium games, people are willing to download a free app and pay far more money than what it's worth to keep playing.
At least until the mobile game market crashes.
exmachina64
Banned
Monument Valley didn't make anywhere near the amounts Konami (and other large companies) are targeting.
It's not like Konami et al are pretending to release high quality mobile games; they clearly state they're in it to make ridiculous amounts of money. As we've discussed on GAF before, the way to that is to make addictive Skinner boxes.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I will defend mobile gaming to the ends of the earth, but I think we still need to acknowledge two big problems. First, like you said, there's a huge difference between someone like Konami and ustwo. For ustwo, mobile was the platform to execute an artistic vision. For Konami, mobile is a platform to exploit for cash via "gaming services." Second, as neat as Monument Valley is, it's still well within the minority. For every neat game I've played on iOS over the last year (80 Days, Terra Battle, Sorcery!, Sorcery! 2, Device 6, Framed, FF: Record Keeper, Threes), there's probably ten to twenty crappy knockoffs, clones and F2P monstrosities out there.
Mobile gaming is best realized in smaller indie developers right now, who use a touch-based, mobile platform for a vision. Not in huge corporations who try to make Skinner boxes.