Ivan A Nguyen
Member
I need a photoshop of that.
Something like them floating our in dark space at the end of ME2 spliced in with the green explosions of ME3 galaxy map.
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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I need a photoshop of that.
Something like them floating our in dark space at the end of ME2 spliced in with the green explosions of ME3 galaxy map.
RedRedSuit
Member
But you can literally see that star out the window/screen/whatever. Even if that's one star system the HQ could be, she should know to at least try that one.
Which is a bullshit reason as you see that sun in the background throughout the games.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Really?
Because it seems like the Illusive Man was sitting in the same chair, in the same base, in the same galaxy, looking at the same sun he always had been looking at in Mass Effect 2.
RedRedSuit
Member
Heh. It's all right. I can accept certain gameplay conceits.
Hologram! Come on this isnt that hard to explain away.
WrenchNinja
Member
That sun was yellow and then became red or blue and then yellow again.
I can accept that the base just moves and Miranda just didnt know.
I can accept that the base just moves and Miranda just didnt know.
What about the red and blue suns at the end of ME2 =P
FrontalMonk
Banned
So it's just a pure coincidence that you finally run into them at that exact sun? If you're using a hologram, why in god's name would you then go to that place? Especially when you're on the run.
The Illusive Man doesnt run.
WrenchNinja
Member
Erik Kain back with another article and on "artistic integrity".
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-ending-wont-threaten-its-artistic-integrity/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-ending-wont-threaten-its-artistic-integrity/
Psychoward
Banned
Based on what you did with the base. Choices.
Slackbladder
Member
*gasp*What's this? A plot hole in ME3? Really? Would you believe it!
It's safe to assume there will be missing logic in the game (quite a bit to be honest). I mean, look at the ending.....
Confidence Man
Member
They should've just killed Miranda off, like her father shoots her or something. Plothole resolved.
she can die.
WrenchNinja
Member
If shes already dead in Mass Effect 3, who puts the tracer on Kai Leng? Oriana?
I heard Traynor track him the same way she did to track him to Horizon.
Its non canon.
You play as a different character, you can't continue that one.
The base moves but it mainly resides in the same system. When an operative leaves (Miranda, Kai Leng) they relocate just in case the operative becomes a traitor. After awhile it returns and we know this because it's mentioned multiple times throughout the books that Illusive Man has a view of the burning sun.
It's never mentioned how they get there, but one can assume that they don't actually know of the location and are brought there by shuttle and are kept in the dark. Illusive Man trusts very few people, including his top agents because of his paranoia.
They should have mentioned this but BioWare obviously doesn't give a shit about plotholes or their own universe.
It's never mentioned how they get there, but one can assume that they don't actually know of the location and are brought there by shuttle and are kept in the dark. Illusive Man trusts very few people, including his top agents because of his paranoia.
They should have mentioned this but BioWare obviously doesn't give a shit about plotholes or their own universe.
Another great article by Forbes. The author really cuts to the core of why I am okay with Bioware changing the ending, but I think he sums up the article nicely at the end with this:
Erik Kain said:
So you just start the game off with a clean-slate shephard?
Hits make the world go 'round.
yup, no import.
Photolysis
Banned
If you look at it from a wider perspective, there's a lot to say on the subject. It's not simply "some people being pissed off about an ending", but has become something much bigger. Gamer 'entitlement', media ethics and journalism, artistic integrity, business sense.
Rob N Banks said:
I was surprised it didn't get a line of dialogue. Why not have Shepard ask Miranda about it and get a response on how TIM is paranoid and moves the base around so she doesn't know. It shows attention to detail instead of telling your audience to guess or read the ME wiki.
Wow, some of the threads on BSN are crazy. This was posted concerning "hints" about IT:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10809480/1
A later post:
This is getting to 9/11 conspiracy theory levels with the "analysis".
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10809480/1
Narkeh said:Apologies if this has been posted before
This pic is by the vent where you try to save the kid
Needless to say, I feel like I'm being trolled by Bioware and it does not feel good -.-. I only hope that their "Wait till April" announcement was not a PR attempt to prevent people from returning the game.
As you can see the pic is right next to the vent...is this a hint at
indoctrination? Too much of a coincidence to place a random electrical
warning pic right next to the spot where you find the kid that will
later become the god-child....
A later post:
tobito113 said:Holy crap look at the DANGER sign
now look how DANGER is said in sign language
http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/DANGEROUS/6157/1
This is getting to 9/11 conspiracy theory levels with the "analysis".
Lol, this takes 'grasping at straws' to a new level. Next Friday will be chaos when Bioware doesn't announce IT theory DLC.
Psychoward
Banned
I find it funny, BW games usually have fantastic endings and openings, and ME3's opening and ending were probably the worst parts of the game.
People are going to bitch either way, this whole situation makes me smh.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
A number of the enthusiast press aren't particularly fans of that chap.
Since when? Neverwinter nights had an awful opening sequence, really. You're in a generic fantasy land training center. And DAII had a bloody awful ending.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Let's just say it is Indoctrination.
It doesn't make it less of a shit ending. It'just makes it a less vague, shit ending.
I think it would make it a better ending but I don't know if it's true or not and I would be more than happy with some more followup to the ending we got.
That's what makes me more disappointed in BioWare. I can look past them making shooters when they have this big universe and potential to do other stuff, but it's the major/minor details they overlook and just don't include into the game.
I actually liked Saren in Revelation. In the game, they were all "yeah Saren is a bad guy because he hates humans!" and left it at that. Same with Kai Leng. In Retribution he's actually a pretty decent character. Deadly with a gun but even more dangerous with a knife. In the game, they made him into a shitty version of Raiden from MGS.
Then the whole Miranda not knowing where the base was. They had three "settings" for the game, Action, Story and RPG yet everything felt like it was on Action. Stuff like this disappoints me more than that shit ending probably.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
GAF, would this ending have sufficed for you?
After Shephard activates the Crucible controls, she sits down with Anderson in their last moments.
Anderson: "I'm proud of you, Shepard"
Cue credits.
After Shephard activates the Crucible controls, she sits down with Anderson in their last moments.
Anderson: "I'm proud of you, Shepard"
Cue credits.
Anything is better than ghostchild, random jungle planet and grandpa stories.
Beside with an ending such as yours, they would have just made an ending DLC with better stuff than the real thing.
Better and sufficiently not retarded are too different things.