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Snuggles · Jan 11, 2011

Green Scar said:
I might have voted for VVVVVV as my goatie, either that or SMG2.

Looks like there was 3 of us who chose it. Before I changed my vote, I was gonna go with Joe Danger which would have made me the only one, I think.

Kuroyume · Jan 11, 2011

Played the ME2 demo a few months ago and I couldn't believe how boring it was. I watched a lot of the screens and videos of ME and ME2 before then and I figured the games were likely great, but that wasn't the case.

Air Zombie Meat · Jan 11, 2011

Seraphis Cain said:
Dead Rising 2 ranked like, 30th I think.

Ah ok, just missed the cut then. Guess I need to check out the detailed stats.

Unicorn · Jan 11, 2011

Kuroyume said:
Played the ME2 demo a few months ago and I couldn't believe how boring it was. I watched a lot of the screens and videos of ME and ME2 before then and I figured the games were likely great, but that wasn't the case.

This has been said a thousand times, but demos for RPG's never sell a product

(que people saying ME2 isn't an RPG)

Also, it helps if you carry your save over from the 1st game as there is a connection you have to your character that you crafted. THAT is the RPG element that holds ME2 as much an RPG as the first game, if not more. I feel a stronger connection to my Shepard than I ever did to any Elder Scrolls character I've made.

Classic_Gs · Jan 11, 2011

Excellent work! I am surprised PAC-MAN CE DX and DJ Hero 2 placed were they did. I thought both would be much higher.

flyinpiranha · Jan 11, 2011

Holy shit, great list and excellent work!

This is why I dig GAF's GOTY awards, I see games that flew under my radar when we get to the massive breakdown of all mentioned.

Darklord · Jan 11, 2011

Amazing work. And a decent list!

A Human Becoming · Jan 11, 2011

Just because I put a lot of work into them, here are the two other banners I made:

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Lostconfused · Jan 11, 2011

Once again GAF and I do not agree. All's right with the world.

Seraphis Cain · Jan 11, 2011

So I can only assume that Fable III's place on the list means that nobody gives a damn about the series anymore, right? :lol

Seriously though, ouch. Talk about a fall from grace. Though I suppose it was pretty obvious from the beginning that Microsoft didn't even give a damn about it, with how little advertising it got.

AmericanNinja · Jan 11, 2011

Wow ME2 goty, really? ME2 is a good game but not that good.

cooljeanius · Jan 11, 2011

Adding percents:

SolidusDave said:
another perspective.. of the main top 25 games, there are....

16 available on Xbox360 (3 exclusives) (18.75% of top-25 360 titles were 360-exclusive)

15 available on PS3 (including ME2, come on, it's less than 2 weeks) (3 exclusives) (20% of top-25 PS3 titles were PS3-exclusive)

8 available on PC (2 exclusives) (25% of top-25 PC titles were PC-exclusive)

2 available on Wii (2 exclusives) (100% of top-25 Wii titles were Wii-exclusive)

1 available on PSP (1 exclusive) (100% of top-25 PSP titles were PSP-exclusive)

1 available on NDS (1 exclusive) (100% of top-25 DS titles were DS-exclusive)

There seems to be a negative correlation between number of titles in the top 25 and percent of titles that are exclusives...

The Elite · Jan 11, 2011

The more I think about it, the more I'm surprised GT5 did as well as it did. It was dismissed by many outside of the GT5 official threads.

Snuggles · Jan 11, 2011

Seraphis Cain said:
So I can only assume that Fable III's place on the list means that nobody gives a damn about the series anymore, right? :lol

That, and it was a really bad game. It's still too high @ 80, I think it belongs somewhere between 250 and 300.

Cheech · Jan 11, 2011

Having played the entire top 10 for once, the only one I am mystified by is Bayonetta.

I also think the DMC games are unfun shitpiles though, so take my opinion for what it's worth. :lol

I think 2011's GOTY list is going to be much more divisive. Skyrim, Gears 3, LBP2, Uncharted 3, The Old Republic, Battlefield 3, Portal 2, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3, Deux Ex, Dead Space 2, Rage, Skyward Sword.... wow.

Quite a few of those games have rabid, RABID fanbases. I can see Skyrim losing out to some "by the numbers" game like Uncharted 3, and GAF going apeshit.

WillyFive · Jan 11, 2011

Say what you want about the results, it was an expertly conducted decision.

ultron87 · Jan 11, 2011

cooljeanius said:
Adding percents:
There seems to be a negative correlation between number of titles in the top 25 and percent of titles that are exclusives...

Well an exclusive generally means that fewer people have the opportunity to play it, and thus you'd assume it would get fewer votes.

But it's really just that Wii, DS and PSP games are more likely to be exclusive than a game on console or PC.

Cheech · Jan 11, 2011

Snuggler said:
That, and it was a really bad game. It's still too high @ 80, I think it belongs somewhere between 250 and 300.

Fable 3 was an unapologetic shitpile. It was a triumph of horrendous game design. I'm speaking as someone who had the two previous games high up on GOTY lists.

Total, total disappointment. I'm not sure I've been more disappointed with any game this generation.

Curufinwe · Jan 11, 2011

I can see Skyrim being buggy and unfinished or not even making it out this year.

Seraphis Cain · Jan 11, 2011

I just realized that I currently own 5 of the top 25 games, and have also owned two others in the top 25 at some point over the year. I have statistically awesome taste. :lol

Seraphis Cain · Jan 11, 2011

Curufinwe said:
I can see Skyrim being buggy and unfinished or not even making it out this year.

Well, it is a Bethesda game. :lol

Or maybe I'm just pissed at New Vegas for freezing on me so often.

Psychotext · Jan 11, 2011

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite thread on GAF.

Cheech · Jan 11, 2011

Curufinwe said:
I can see Skyrim being buggy and unfinished or not even making it out this year.

New Vegas was in far, far worse shape than any Bethesda game has been at launch going back to Daggerfall. Still, the game rated relatively high and reviewed well.

If Bethesda releases a relatively tuned up experience in Skyrim without gamebreaking bugs, it MIGHT pull it off. The Elder Scrolls games are a bit hardcore for the mainstream, but this is GAF. If a more populist title like Uncharted 3 or Gears 3 wins the next GAF GOTY, I will be disappointed.

NullPointer · Jan 11, 2011

Cheech said:
Fable 3 was an unapologetic shitpile. It was a triumph of horrendous game design. I'm speaking as someone who had the two previous games high up on GOTY lists.

Total, total disappointment. I'm not sure I've been more disappointed with any game this generation.

Right there with you. It was like a shambling, heartless, brainless, zombie version of what I once loved. Biggest disappointment of 2010 for me, and absolutely so.

Femmeworth · Jan 11, 2011

Seeing Final Fantasy XIII higher than Nier is just...

At least it made the the top 25.

I was also hoping that Donkey Kong Country Returns would beat Super Mario Galaxy 2. Oh well.

daxter01 · Jan 11, 2011

Mass Effect 2 Goty ,Heavy Rain at 6 place and no Amnesia in top 20

I must say this year gaf Goty awards sucks

Salsa · Jan 11, 2011

Im alright with this

Super Meat Boy should be higher though

tim.mbp · Jan 11, 2011

Great job timetokill and Cheesemeister!.

Corto · Jan 11, 2011

Great job Timetokill, Cheesemeister and ICallItFutile, thank you for your time organizing this awards and for sharing the raw data. Kudos!

...I can't wait to play GOTY 2010 in 2 weeks time.

Next years awards will be a riot! Can't wait.

lljride · Jan 11, 2011

ninj4junpei said:
Seeing Final Fantasy XIII higher than Nier is just...

At least it made the the top 25.

I loved them both, had them #1 and #2 overall on my list. I just liked the gameplay in FFXIII more. I agree though, really glad Nier made the top 25 as well.

254. Trinity Universe 2

Well, at least I wasn't alone here.:lol

dude · Jan 11, 2011

The game I really can't understand the universal fanwank for is Minecraft - The game is basically made of everything I hate in games, and nothing else.

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

I just wrote a script that tells you the top 5 GotY lists that were most similar to yours (or to anyone's really, the starting user name is a parameter). The numbers in parentheses are a similarity rating (higher = more similar).

As a side effect it also tells you how much of a conformist you are (higher total similarity score = higher conformance to the GAF consensus).

Code:

>similarusers.rb Durante
Users with similar selection to Durante:
  1.           Xilium (  84) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=22#1052 ]
  2.           drkOne (  76) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=21#1046 ]
  3.           SpokkX (  65) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=4#152 ]
  4.       &#8704; Narayan (  65) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=23#1128 ]
  5.            bloke (  62) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=15#732 ]

Total similarity score: 16551

Remember that I just now wrote this, and the design of the similarity measure is completely ad-hoc "because it seemed like a good idea". It's all in good fun.

Here's the script + data file:
http://www.metaclassofnil.com/gaf/gafgoty2011-compare.zip

Edit: Thanks to Cheesemeister for putting the data into an easy to parse format.

Code:

Users with similar selection to Cheesemeister:
  1.          Neiteio ( 103) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1154 ]
  2.  Tricky I Shadow (  98) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=5#233 ]
  3.            Roxas (  85) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=10#468 ]
  4.            Kinan (  84) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=22#1084 ]
  5.   friskykillface (  84) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=30#1453 ]

Total similarity score: 30917

brandonh83 · Jan 11, 2011

DaBuddaDa said:
Shocked that Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Lara Croft, Vanquish are so low and even more shocked that God of War III and Heavy Rain are anywhere near the top 10, let alone in it.

I agree, but clearly, the people have spoken. :lol

Grisby · Jan 11, 2011

Didn't say this before but thanks Timetokill and Cheesemeister!

Dennis · Jan 11, 2011

Reach deserved the FPS award.

Papercuts · Jan 11, 2011

Thanks for all the work put into this! Glad to see ME2 beat out RDR, definitely had a much better time with it.

Also REALLY happy to see Nier squeak in.

Jucksalbe · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
Here's the script + data file:
http://www.metaclassofnil.com/gaf/gafgoty2011-compare.zip

.rb is a Ruby file, I guess? How can I run this without having to install lots of stuff? (on win)

Rorschach · Jan 11, 2011

Nice job on the list. Don't agree at all with the results, but whatchagonnado?

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

Jucksalbe said:
.rb is a Ruby file, I guess? How can I run this without having to install lots of stuff? (on win)

There's the Ruby installer. It's very simple to use, but I just ran the script for you anyway:

Code:

Users with similar selection to Jucksalbe:
  1.          ULTROS! (  62) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=7#331 ]
  2.         Thoraxes (  59) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#947 ]
  3.    Augemitbutter (  57) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=30#1463 ]
  4.      Knux-Future (  56) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1186 ]
  5.     Regulus Tera (  53) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#363 ]

Total similarity score: 11236

Lowest total similarity I've seen so far, congrats

Lagspike_exe · Jan 11, 2011

Great list, although I'd place Battlefield higher. Shocked at Heavy Rain entering Top 10. I personally liked it, but it seemed that it wasn't quite warmly accepted at GAF.

Sammy Samusu · Jan 11, 2011

Nice list overall, but...

39. Deadly Premonition 98
40. Monster Hunter 3: Tri 96

WillyFive · Jan 11, 2011

dude said:
The game I really can't understand the universal fanwank for is Minecraft - The game is basically made of everything I hate in games, and nothing else.

Creativity and addiction. Dangerous combination.

ZZMitch · Jan 11, 2011

dude said:
The game I really can't understand the universal fanwank for is Minecraft - The game is basically made of everything I hate in games, and nothing else.

Well I mean if you hate freedom, imagination and exploration then I guess it isn't for you!

Ataturk · Jan 11, 2011

Great list, and the right choice for #1. Disappointed to see SC Conviction so low down though.

A Human Becoming · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:

There's the Ruby installer. It's very simple to use, but I just ran the script for you anyway:

Code:

Users with similar selection to Jucksalbe:
  1.          ULTROS! (  62) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=7#331 ]
  2.         Thoraxes (  59) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#947 ]
  3.    Augemitbutter (  57) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=30#1463 ]
  4.      Knux-Future (  56) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1186 ]
  5.     Regulus Tera (  53) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#363 ]

Total similarity score: 11236

Lowest total similarity I've seen so far, congrats

It would cool to see who here is the biggest conformist. :lol

EDIT: I wouldn't mind if you ran it for me either. I downloaded Ruby but am confused to how it works.

Corto · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:

There's the Ruby installer. It's very simple to use, but I just ran the script for you anyway:

Code:

Users with similar selection to Jucksalbe:
  1.          ULTROS! (  62) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=7#331 ]
  2.         Thoraxes (  59) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#947 ]
  3.    Augemitbutter (  57) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=30#1463 ]
  4.      Knux-Future (  56) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1186 ]
  5.     Regulus Tera (  53) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#363 ]

Total similarity score: 11236

Lowest total similarity I've seen so far, congrats

Sorry to bother you... but could you run it for me too? I don't have any idea how to run the script on the terminal of Mac OS X.

NullPointer · Jan 11, 2011

Code:

Users with similar selection to NullPointer:
  1.       CoachKevin ( 106) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=11#520 ]
  2.          Vexidus ( 104) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=16#799 ]
  3.        crispyben ( 103) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=12#575 ]
  4.            Mully (  89) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=9#425 ]
  5.    Liquid Helium (  87) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1163 ]

Total similarity score: 27501

Nice work Durante.

cooljeanius · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
There's the Ruby installer. It's very simple to use.

Is there a Mac version? So far trying to open it just lets me view it in Xcode...

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

Corto said:
Sorry to bother you... but could you run it for me too? I don't have any idea how to run the script on the terminal of Mac OS X.

No problem, I was thinking about putting it online (eg. just a page were you enter the name) but I was too lazy to set that up.

Code:

Users with similar selection to Corto:
  1.            Holtz (  89) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=1#34 ]
  2.        Mooreberg (  87) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=3#114 ]
  3.      Baron Aloha (  86) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=23#1103 ]
  4.       pslayer666 (  85) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=10#459 ]
  5.            Xater (  83) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=9#428 ]

Total similarity score: 16158

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

Heavy Rain made top ten?

Fucking christ, GAFers with no taste. You've failed GAF again.

At least Super Meat Boy made top ten, and not that other artsy-fuckshit sacred cow LIMBO.

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