Kurt Angle
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Wonder Woman now tracking to have opening on par with other DCEU movies
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yes in a thread about why wonder woman is flopping, explaining my reasoning for not giving it money
Kenzodielocke
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I checked on MoS. It says its opening weekend was 116m, total gross 128m. Care to explain the difference?
Guess you should read abit more.
Which is how most movies are marketed. Never got the point of that over reactive thread.
Dunno...
Gordon Shumway
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It's bizarre..
Glad to hear the movie might be good *and* do well, at least in the US.
While that's true, that doesn't mean much for overseas performance per se.
While that's true, that doesn't mean much for overseas performance per se.
Imperfected
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I'm interested based on what I've seen and heard from people about it, but I'm still leery enough to wait a week or so out for more thorough and varied reviews.
I'm laying this 95% at the feet of BvS/SS and maybe 4% on the back of Wonder Woman not being the most marketable character to begin with. The blowback from the reception of those movies had to come, even if it wasn't felt immediately by their own BO takes.
I'm laying this 95% at the feet of BvS/SS and maybe 4% on the back of Wonder Woman not being the most marketable character to begin with. The blowback from the reception of those movies had to come, even if it wasn't felt immediately by their own BO takes.
They had a Walmart Thursday preview that was counted separately from Friday.
Astral Dog
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And probably the best DCU too :*(
The Futurist
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Like others have said, I just hope it's good.
I enjoyed Man of Steel for the most part, and I really tried to like parts of BvS, but the bar isn't high at all.
It's not really surprising if it doesn't do as well as these hugely popular characters like Batman and Superman that can drive ticket sales based on their names alone.
Yeah, Wonder Woman has been around a long time, but the character is not close in terms of pop culture relevance.
I personally know more guys who want to see WW than women. Simply because it's still a superhero action movie. Maybe things are different for younger generations, but for people in their 30s, I don't know many women who want to go out and watch superhero movies. Doesn't matter if the lead is female. They just don't care in general.
I enjoyed Man of Steel for the most part, and I really tried to like parts of BvS, but the bar isn't high at all.
It's not really surprising if it doesn't do as well as these hugely popular characters like Batman and Superman that can drive ticket sales based on their names alone.
Yeah, Wonder Woman has been around a long time, but the character is not close in terms of pop culture relevance.
I personally know more guys who want to see WW than women. Simply because it's still a superhero action movie. Maybe things are different for younger generations, but for people in their 30s, I don't know many women who want to go out and watch superhero movies. Doesn't matter if the lead is female. They just don't care in general.
Guess i need to post this for a new page. Because i feel people are missing it and responding on the thread title.
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Update. I mean if it happens. Its so great for female superhero movies.
http://pro.boxoffice.com/long-range-forecast-dunkirk-girls-trip-valerian/
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Update. I mean if it happens. Its so great for female superhero movies.
http://pro.boxoffice.com/long-range-forecast-dunkirk-girls-trip-valerian/
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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The $12M reported was what Walmart bought and I don't think we ever got an actual number on how many of those were sold to consumers. Considering no one has ever tried something remotely like that since, the promotion was probably a pretty big disappointment.
TheRealTalker
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if the movie hits a home run in both sales and reviews then all those Gal Gadot critics will feel overly awkward
The Futurist
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Not really. She has been fairly mediocre in everything I've seen her in.
If this movie succeeds, it won't be because of her amazing acting ability.
I have been impressed by her physicality though. From the footage I've seen, she seems to be handling the action scenes better than I thought she would. A little more muscle wouldn't have hurt though.
Critics praise her tho.
Is there a bingo card for Wonder Woman threads yet?
Smokey_Run
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I think I found John Campea's GAF account.
Walter White Walker
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I'll be taking my kids to see this opening weekend. It'll be the first DCEU I've seen in the theater, actually.
Alex_Mexico
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I opened this thread and started reading on page 1 and I was very very confused since the OP was saying the opposite. Why wouldnt this be a new thread? New thread for new news, guys! Bumping a month old thread with news that rendered this original thread outdated was not a good idea.
Somewhere Bryan Cranston is screaming and he doesn't know why
Didn't you have some data indicating they were fairly accurate this close to a films release? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
shira
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With PotC tanking looks like it's a more more
If Mummy bombs they could be in for a chicken dinner
That post has got to be good for at least three spaces.
Diprosalic
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Well.. most impressions so far specifically single out Gadot's performance as a winning factor. And the haters on here weren't saying they didn't like her.. they said she literally couldn't act, couldn't deliver a single line. The hyperbole based off a few flimsy b-movies she's starred in was pretty insane.
That's not really an excuse/explanation when you have borderline unknown Marvel characters opening in the same range. On paper a Wonder Woman movie should automatically beat a Doctor Strange movie. The fact that we've been sitting here wondering if WW can do that is more of a testament to how badly damaged the DCEU is after MoS and BvS than anything else.
broncobuster
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No. The idea that Wonder Woman, or any superheroine movie, will automatically be a huge success is a total fallacy. Fact that Marvel Studios does two movies with talking trees and raccoons, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, three Thor movies, etc. before one movie with a female lead should tell you how cold studios are on it. Same goes for Fox and Sony.
They average a bit over 70% accuracy 2 months out. I didnt look at their one week out accuracy.
I don't think that boxoffice.com is that bad with their predictions, but they aren't a tracking company with access to ticket presales. They make their predictions based on social media metrics and past film performances.
We should get something official early next week. We should also finally get a budget estimate, which I am more interested in.
CosmicGroinPull
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Good to hear. If the positive impressions hold out (mine included) it would be nice to see this having way better legs than the two movies before.
Wonder Woman isn't an established movie franchise. And the DCEU hardly is either. The Marvel brand, literally the strongest in the world of cinema, is what sells a Doctor Strange movie, not Doctor Strange the comic book character.
Wait what. Since when.
Wonder Woman was one of the 4 truely global superheroes pre Marvel studios (Superman, Batman and Spiderman were the other 3)
If Wonder Woman fails globally it will be due to a lack of quality not awareness.
I want Pirates and Wonder Woman to do well. So let's not speak for all moviegoers.
I've decided that I'm going all in on Wonder Woman this summer. I previously kicked around some pretty lofty predictions which I didn't fully commit to. Now, now the time has come.., I'm going for it.
Wonder Woman has an opening weekend close to Man Of Steel's $110-115m with a final North American gross that is in the same neighbourhood as the first two Hunger Game films with $375-400m even with the increased competition of the summer.
These are both long shots, I know this, but they aren't impossible. I think that WW is going to bring in the female audience like no other superhero film has before, after Warners made Tarzan a 'hit' last summer by bringing in the female audience in a big way I think they'll do the same here.
Expect to see this film have great legs as the studio pushes for more 'mother + daughter night out' (or similar promotions) style screenings as a way to bring out more women. I think that this film can attract the traditional comic book audience as well a demographic that wouldn't usually touch a film like this in the cinema.
*folds arms*
So there.
Wonder Woman has an opening weekend close to Man Of Steel's $110-115m with a final North American gross that is in the same neighbourhood as the first two Hunger Game films with $375-400m even with the increased competition of the summer.
These are both long shots, I know this, but they aren't impossible. I think that WW is going to bring in the female audience like no other superhero film has before, after Warners made Tarzan a 'hit' last summer by bringing in the female audience in a big way I think they'll do the same here.
Expect to see this film have great legs as the studio pushes for more 'mother + daughter night out' (or similar promotions) style screenings as a way to bring out more women. I think that this film can attract the traditional comic book audience as well a demographic that wouldn't usually touch a film like this in the cinema.
*folds arms*
So there.
BronsonLee
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Does Chris Pine have abs Busty
That's the real key
That's the real key
Pine has a glint in his blue eyes that suggests childish mischief and long walks along the beach while holding hands.
That my friend is more powerful than any ab.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Nice thread title change. I thought it was a new thread and was surprised to see I already had several posts in it, lol.
I certainly was not expecting the film to be tracking so well. A year ago, I thought it was suicide to release this film so close to Pirates but I guess that franchise isn't so hot these days, at least in the US.
Here's the prediction I made in the other thread if I recall correctly:
US: 220
Foreign: 250
WW total: 470
That might have been too conservative, here's my update:
US: 270
Foreign: 320
WW total: 590
Still unsure about the international numbers but crossing the 300 million bar doesn't seem too hard these days so maybe it has a chance. Anyway, anything above 450 would be a good start for the franchise.
I certainly was not expecting the film to be tracking so well. A year ago, I thought it was suicide to release this film so close to Pirates but I guess that franchise isn't so hot these days, at least in the US.
Here's the prediction I made in the other thread if I recall correctly:
US: 220
Foreign: 250
WW total: 470
That might have been too conservative, here's my update:
US: 270
Foreign: 320
WW total: 590
Still unsure about the international numbers but crossing the 300 million bar doesn't seem too hard these days so maybe it has a chance. Anyway, anything above 450 would be a good start for the franchise.
Given it's current momentum $450m (or something in that region) would be fucking terrible. Im thinking that the lowest bar, worldwide, that the film needs to get over is $550/600m. Anything under that and the studio wouldn't be at all happy.
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