Johannsson
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Day 1. I loved original TSW.
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The Secret World becomes F2P with Secret World Legends
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I hope that with the changes to combat we'll see some changes to the various "weapon styles". I absolutely adored some of the auxiliary weapons, but they felt extraordinarily limited.. And I wouldn't mind seeing them being expanded upon.
Nonetheless, I'll definitely return at the relaunch, if for no other reason than to experience the changes (and probably get that last Illumi-naughty character through the story)..
Nonetheless, I'll definitely return at the relaunch, if for no other reason than to experience the changes (and probably get that last Illumi-naughty character through the story)..
*Tons* of people accessing it, not their fault lol. When I logged in there were people who said they hadn't been logged on for months and just wanted to check the community reactions, so I think a lot of people are interested in what the relaunch will be.
His Majesty
Banned
Today was the first opportunity to register, right?
MHWilliams
Member
It's weird, because it's a relaunch, but it's not?
Secret World Legends is a new-ish thing, using all the content from the old thing. But the old thing will stay around, it just won't be updated anymore.
Legends feels like a result of Conan Exiles doing so well.
Secret World Legends is a new-ish thing, using all the content from the old thing. But the old thing will stay around, it just won't be updated anymore.
Legends feels like a result of Conan Exiles doing so well.
Leafhopper
Banned
I remember the E3 trailer for The Secret World and wanted to play it but, never got around to it. I liked the world they built.
See, this is the thing. I am surprised they lasted this long as a subscription based game. I think it's literally too late to become a free to play game, it's been almost 5 years since it's official release. Then again some games that were subs for years became free just fine so that might be just me. However not hearing about any compensation for the people who have been playing for years and technically might have to start basically from scratch (?) sounds like some bullshit.
EDIT: Not subscription, I meant buy to play, it hasn't been a sub for awhile, whoops.
That was lost on me because on Steam at least the entire original The Secret World store page has been replaced with Secret World Legends already. http://store.steampowered.com/app/215280/
Even the old community hub and stuff are seemingly replaced too http://steamcommunity.com/app/215280/discussions/ I guess people that are already playing the original can continue playing the original though.
See, this is the thing. I am surprised they lasted this long as a subscription based game. I think it's literally too late to become a free to play game, it's been almost 5 years since it's official release. Then again some games that were subs for years became free just fine so that might be just me. However not hearing about any compensation for the people who have been playing for years and technically might have to start basically from scratch (?) sounds like some bullshit.
EDIT: Not subscription, I meant buy to play, it hasn't been a sub for awhile, whoops.
That was lost on me because on Steam at least the entire original The Secret World store page has been replaced with Secret World Legends already. http://store.steampowered.com/app/215280/
Even the old community hub and stuff are seemingly replaced too http://steamcommunity.com/app/215280/discussions/ I guess people that are already playing the original can continue playing the original though.
I guess it's a way to not alienate/lose old players and make them angry - also a second "income" for them since classic TSW won't be buyable anymore but the item store could still exist. I like this approach very much.
It is not a subscription based game for years. It's buy once - play forever. You needed to buy new content though.
Anoregon
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Looking forward to seeing impressions of the beta. The fact that they are emphasizing "action RPG" and not using the term "MMO" anywhere in the marketing makes me think it might have a very different feel from the original.
Yeah it's all kind of strange.
Yeah it's all kind of strange.
Leafhopper
Banned
Oh right my mistake and miswording. I meant buy to play, my fault.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Did they ever fixed the stiff combat?
That's what they're doing with the relaunch, sounds like they're making it more Action-RPG'y
I would not hold my breath for a total revamp. To me it sounds like they will simplify a lot of skills, make synergies easier and not make you read an hour to find new skills synergies. (I somehow liked that). I am not sure Dreamworld supports a better animation system to make combat more meaty and weighty.
It transfers over to whatever their new "patron" system is.
Jest Chillin
Member
Game has the best atmosphere and some of the coolest quests ever in an MMO.
But the combat animations, skill tree's, and the traditional MMO gateways (level curve late game, gear grind, attuning, etc..) held it back severely. This was one of those games where if you spec'd the wrong skills, you were seriously disadvantaged in the content.
Going b2p was great too but having to buy new story content just didn't make sense to me. Completely f2p is the best model for a game whose biggest strength is the story and atmosphere. I'll definitely give this a shot.
But the combat animations, skill tree's, and the traditional MMO gateways (level curve late game, gear grind, attuning, etc..) held it back severely. This was one of those games where if you spec'd the wrong skills, you were seriously disadvantaged in the content.
Going b2p was great too but having to buy new story content just didn't make sense to me. Completely f2p is the best model for a game whose biggest strength is the story and atmosphere. I'll definitely give this a shot.
Mithos
Member
You were however NEVER locked to that build, you could always just unlock the other skills and fix it for free... No god damn pay to reset you build.
His Majesty
Banned
I think the gear treadmill was rather fun, mainly because the NM dungeons (and the community) are so excellent. Also most people in the endgame phase have already completely unlocked their ability wheel.
Made a mistake? Just run a few previous missions again and you are back up to speed.
Made a mistake? Just run a few previous missions again and you are back up to speed.
Jest Chillin
Member
This was not the case when I played. You needed to level more to get the points to unlock the proper stuff. Then re-gear. And the community at the time was standard MMO-fare. Not as toxic as say, WoW General Chat, but grouping was still "Meet X Requirement" stuff.
Mithos
Member
No no, what I mean is that you were never stuck, you could just get more points and get more skills, in other MMO's you had to PAY to be able to re-skill, and you had to pick and choose what skills to add because you could just choose so many skills to have, in TSW you could just add more skills until you have them all.
Jest Chillin
Member
True. That's a lot of grind though and early in the game it wasn't immediately clear what an efficient build was. They pitched the system as players having the ability to run whatever setup and skills they wanted. No classes. Which was only technically true. Still needed a build that created a class so you could fill a role though. I played the game at launch, participated in the ARGs, etc.. so these are old gripes.
His Majesty
Banned
The community now is super friendly and helpful. I upgraded all my purple gear through PUG's and met some wonderful people. No one gets mad when you make a mistake, people take time to explain mechanics and wiping isn't the end of the world. This experience is in stark contrast with other MMO's for me.
I can't really comment on the community at the time of release since I only started playing like 1-2 years later.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
I wonder if they revamped the combat for this very reason.
They are also calling it shared world now. I wonder if the instance sizes are going to be smaller now.
Broadbandito
Member
so fucking in on this
His Majesty
Banned
I expect them to make the vanilla main missions replayable in Legends (just like all other content). So an extra character slot really isn't a necessity like in other games.
Yep, him and Joshua Doetsch.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
Paid like $6 for this last week, I'll just wait for this version to drop before I get into it more.
If you can switch factions, that might work
Templar best faction, plus your superior essentially being Mallory Archer is fantastic.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
So the developers confirmed there is no engine change. I wonder if that means a console version is unlikely.
EndersAres
Neo Member
I'm really excited for this. I have tried to play this many times but the terrible combat always makes me leave. The story stuff if so interesting but that gameplay just kills it for me.
mattiewheels
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Phew, I got nervous that I wouldn't be able to see the rest of the old game I hadn't gotten around to, but it'll be a separate client and the old one continues like usual.
Snakethesniper
Member
Apparently not? I mean, outside the transfer of previous stuff, it seems not
â Narayan
Member
I've had this since it went buy-to-play. I couldn't really get into the combat, so I dropped it. Legends seems like it could pull me in.
There are many qualities apart from the combat that appeal to me. The setting and immersion are pretty great. This is the only MMO I've played that pulls off the single-player game feeling pretty well.
There are many qualities apart from the combat that appeal to me. The setting and immersion are pretty great. This is the only MMO I've played that pulls off the single-player game feeling pretty well.