I think it's better to go with one armor set for the set bonus rather than a hodgepodge of different armor types. I was running a mess of Lynx Scarab and Gorgon parts and just was getting messed up by regular enemies way too much. The Lynx armor set increases attack speed at full health and uses less stamina to dodging and I find it works great with Twin Rigged for quick hits and then still having stamina to dash away
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I think it's better to go with one armor set for the set bonus rather than a hodgepodge of different armor types. I was running a mess of Lynx Scarab and Gorgon parts and just was getting messed up by regular enemies way too much. The Lynx armor set increases attack speed at full health and uses less stamina to dodging and I find it works great with Twin Rigged for quick hits and then still having stamina to dash away
The guard pieces are better than the Lynx gear though, I think. Also the Lynx set is ugly, lol. I didn't know there were set bonuses.
I had the same problem until I swapped to a heavy weapon. Only takes one or two hits to damage/stagger that boss so you are less likely to take damage in return.
I used single rigged dash attacks mostly.
Niceguydan8
Member
Honestly as soon as you realize they only have a couple of very predictable moves, they are not that hard to fight.
bati
Member
If you're using a single rig weapon you can cheese them easily with dash attack. Just lock on to their tail and you'll do pretty good damage.
Does anyone have a list of all lockboxes that require X amount of core power to open? I really don't feel like backtracking through the entire game.
Coriolanus
Banned
the game REALLY expects you to use some +hp implants. It'll help with that.
Quite evident once you realize that level ups don't increase base hp in any way whatsoever.
Enemies in the first area drop it.
bati
Member
This. I'm playing with 2 (at my core level that means 106 extra hp which is HUGE). My loadout at core level 60:
2x Vital Boost mk3 (adds 53 base hp)
2x Plasmic Regen mk3 (180 hp over 30s, 6 consumables total)
1x Vital Injection mk3 (160 hp instantly, 3 consumables total)
1x Medi-Voltaic Injection mk3 (converts 24 energy to 50 health)
1x Endurance Enhancer mk5 (adds 31 energy, max is 50)
1x Toxic Autofilter (prevents toxic damage)
1x Medical Audit (shows enemy hp)
1x Rig Capacitor XL (prevents stored energy from dropping below 30%)
With this I can go on long exploration stretches as long as I'm careful and don't take too much damage. I very rarely use instant heals.
Nyteshade517
Member
Anyone happen to know what area of Central Production B this symbol represents?
N° 2048
Member
Can't stop thinking of this game while I'm at work.
Looks like the Boss symbol?
Anyone happen to know what area of Central Production B this symbol represents?
Looks like the Boss symbol?
Just beat the second boss.
I really enjoy this game so far. The combat mechanics are leagues ahead of Lords of the Fallen, the second area was huge and I thought the level design was clever with tons of cool secrets and shortcuts. The combat feels good, it's very Bloodborne esque, rewards aggressiveness and works well using a light speedy build which was nigh impossible in LotF.
So far my biggest issues are the lack of level/enemy variety up to now, and how unforgiving the game can be in seemingly unfair ways.
I am fine with difficult, I've beaten every souls-like game multiple times, but sometimes the enemies seem to get some pretty cheap shots off due to hit-stun not working quite as I expect it to and sometimes hitting the wrong body parts. They can easily one-shot me despite me seeming overlevelled with decent MK.II equipment. I got stuck for quite some time in the waste disposal area. A lot of deaths felt cheap rather than my fault which is one of my biggest frustrations in gaming.
Does the game seem to get a bit less unfair as it goes on, maybe more enemy variety? I think the game is great and will remain great, but it is edging on fantastic if it weren't for the staleness of it's level variety, and enemy variety.
I really enjoy this game so far. The combat mechanics are leagues ahead of Lords of the Fallen, the second area was huge and I thought the level design was clever with tons of cool secrets and shortcuts. The combat feels good, it's very Bloodborne esque, rewards aggressiveness and works well using a light speedy build which was nigh impossible in LotF.
So far my biggest issues are the lack of level/enemy variety up to now, and how unforgiving the game can be in seemingly unfair ways.
I am fine with difficult, I've beaten every souls-like game multiple times, but sometimes the enemies seem to get some pretty cheap shots off due to hit-stun not working quite as I expect it to and sometimes hitting the wrong body parts. They can easily one-shot me despite me seeming overlevelled with decent MK.II equipment. I got stuck for quite some time in the waste disposal area. A lot of deaths felt cheap rather than my fault which is one of my biggest frustrations in gaming.
Does the game seem to get a bit less unfair as it goes on, maybe more enemy variety? I think the game is great and will remain great, but it is edging on fantastic if it weren't for the staleness of it's level variety, and enemy variety.
Nyteshade517
Member
ok...it's an area I can't get to yet then
now I can stop worrying about it until a later time
N° 2048
Member
Just killed the yellow crusher thing that's standing in poison. Man that was a frustrating fight. Had to kill the drones first which makes the big guy do that spinning attack, and every time I got it low on health the flamethrower guy would get involved. All the while taking constant ticks of 10 damage from poiso-
Right.
Of course, yes.
...oh
Right.
Of course, yes.
Beta patch up on steam now. Patch notes:
RIP country song ;-;
Adding iframes to execution move is much appreciated, as is blocking not being so costly.
Also, I saved the binds for the developer options in case anyone wants to add them back in at a later date for shits and giggles:
Go to bindings_mkb_default.ini and just copy/paste them in there.
RIP country song ;-;
Adding iframes to execution move is much appreciated, as is blocking not being so costly.
Also, I saved the binds for the developer options in case anyone wants to add them back in at a later date for shits and giggles:
Code:
// load/save
KC_F5 = VK_QUICKSAVE
KC_F8 = VK_QUICKLOAD
//KC_F6 = VK_AUTOSAVE
//KC_F10 = VK_AUTOLOAD
// dbg/dev
KC_F2 = VK_ACTIVATE_FREE_CAM_GAME_STATE
KC_TAB = VK_TOGGLE_DEBUG_PANEL
KC_P = VK_SHOW_PLAYER_POSITION
KC_F3 = VK_PUSH_EDITING_GAMESTATE_KEEP_CAMERA_XFORM
KC_F11 = VK_TOGGLE_GUI
KC_ESCAPE = VK_SHOW_MENU
KC_ADD = VK_INCREASE_GAME_SPEED
KC_SUBTRACT = VK_DECREASE_GAME_SPEED
KC_F7 = VK_RESET_GAME_SPEED
KC_K = VK_KILL_SWITCHGo to bindings_mkb_default.ini and just copy/paste them in there.
bati
Member
Damn
is such an amazing fight. Brutal and unforgiving but at the same time very fair and straightforward. Easily one of my favorites in Souls and Souls-likes. Am I correct that he
I think I fucked up with the special weapon though,
edit: Also, Lynx + Slowmo implant (forgot where I found it, but it's mk4) is simply amazing, I highly recommend this combo.
Black Cerberus
heals based on how long you take with the PAX? I had to deal with two, comboed both once they were on the ground.
I think I fucked up with the special weapon though,
I was targeting his right arm the whole time and pressed X at the end but didn't get the 2.0 version.
edit: Also, Lynx + Slowmo implant (forgot where I found it, but it's mk4) is simply amazing, I highly recommend this combo.
Also, what's the best way to grind out armor crafting materials? I need more (preferably of a low grade, lol) so I can craft an armor set for the security armor sidequest but I have no more materials to do so. I know you can get tungstan simply by scavenging an armor set you already picked up, but can't see anything for armor materials other than just picking them up.
^Stats screen
Yeah, just figured it out hah
Tungsten is from weapons, armour pieces give their respective parts.
You need to find rhino or lynx for mk 1
InsaneTiger
Member
I love how item acquisition is tied to actual cutting it off your enemy. You don't have to farm a stupid dreg just to get the Flameberge sword. I want your weapon, I take your weapon.
Yeah I know that.
I need the actual material to craft them. Chasis Matrices or whatever they're called. Doing executions has netted me nothing, I've been running around area 1 killing dudes and gotten nothing but wrecked lynx parts.
When you go to the armour station it should convert them?
OH!
Yeah I *just* noticed that.
lol I feel stupid hahah I could have had lvl3 gear so much earlier ;-;
N° 2048
Member
You know those doors that scan you and deny you access? Is there a certain armor you need to be wearing to open those?
I'm in Area 4.
edit: Found answer: http://thesurge.wiki.fextralife.com/Security+Doors
I'm in Area 4.
edit: Found answer: http://thesurge.wiki.fextralife.com/Security+Doors
bati
Member
Good thing the combat in this game is so good because I just restarted for the third time lol. The salt when I failed to acquire 2.0 version of the 4th boss' weapon was a little too much. I also really appreciate how much more effective accrued knowledge is in this game compared to souls games. I feel like the application of different tactics, once you figure them out, hold up much better overall, mostly thanks to slower combat and enemies that don't track you until their combos are done lol.
N° 2048
Member
Can't you just get them in NG+?
NG+ keeps going on and on (NG++, NG+++, etc) according to devs.
Coriolanus
Banned
Kinda wish there was an upgraded version of the enemy bars mod that allowed you to see enemy stamina values. Its absence makes it feel like enemies have something close to infinite stamina.
you're really supposed to treat blocking kinda like a parry. Game hates turtlers.
you're really supposed to treat blocking kinda like a parry. Game hates turtlers.
bati
Member
Sure, but I often restart these games (Dark Souls etc) so I can breeze through levels once I know where everything is.
edit: I'm also focusing on a different weapon type this run. The titan that you can get in the first level is surprisingly effective.
Has anyone else found the developers choice to drop the pretense finally with these games and just drop the rpg systems really refreshing?
I mean souls went to stupid lengths to try and systemize combat with the dumb fp stat in 3 that basically everyone and even the game basically just ignored and in souls 2 the asinine adp stat everyone just flat out fucking hated, then bloodborne had the least system heavy gameplay in the series and no one really cared. This game just saying fuck it and tying everything to rig building and thus back into the gameplay via the targeting mechanic is truly inspired.
So many devs are just shoving systems in everywhere because that's what's hot now, to see one take a look at where they were pointless and remove them is super cool to see and very refreshing.
I mean souls went to stupid lengths to try and systemize combat with the dumb fp stat in 3 that basically everyone and even the game basically just ignored and in souls 2 the asinine adp stat everyone just flat out fucking hated, then bloodborne had the least system heavy gameplay in the series and no one really cared. This game just saying fuck it and tying everything to rig building and thus back into the gameplay via the targeting mechanic is truly inspired.
So many devs are just shoving systems in everywhere because that's what's hot now, to see one take a look at where they were pointless and remove them is super cool to see and very refreshing.
Agreed, it's really fucking refreshing. The stats are still there, but linking it to items/gear really works for me.
N° 2048
Member
It feels amazing. This game is a sleeper hit for me this year.
I can see it in my top 10 GOTY.
Coriolanus
Banned
that'd be down to every weapon in the same category having *really* similar stats. Weapon speed is fixed by category, but aside from that Stun and Energy Gain vary wildly, with very few genuinely trash weapons. Only minor variations in damage inside the same category, buuuut because some apply it as elemental, there might be significant differences with the numbers you might get.
Is a pretty decent system, tbh.
Do have the impression that "elemental" is an universal type, however, and there are no distinctions between elec, fire or acid/toxic wrt different enemy defense values for each one.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Yeah same. This is currently my #2, I've enjoyed it that much and I've probably died over 100 times but the shortcuts kill the frustration, the combat is satisfying and I'm kinda into the whole sci-fi horror industrialized motif they went for here.
Coriolanus
Banned
You know someone fucked up dmg balancing in the Nucleus when those fucking crystal laser enemies hit harder than the god damn boss.
it really isn't. Scaling is mostly irrelevant. Plus that yellow hammer has a Very High stun, which is Very Good. If you're gonna stick with hammers, even the very low scaling wont be a problem.
Game will eventually shove other hammer types in your direction.
Attack while falling and you'll take zero dmg.
it really isn't. Scaling is mostly irrelevant. Plus that yellow hammer has a Very High stun, which is Very Good. If you're gonna stick with hammers, even the very low scaling wont be a problem.
Game will eventually shove other hammer types in your direction.
Attack while falling and you'll take zero dmg.
Yeah been a fucking awesome year for sci-fi. Neir, Prey, and now this. All three of them are in my top 10 for this year easy, and it's just may!
It's a mana bar of sorts, you get various abilities that use it as you play.
Cameron122
Member
As a handicapped guy
starting out in a wheelchair was kinda neat