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Nest Thermostat E: plastic, lower res, and $80 cheaper
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The nest come with a large plate for these scenarios.
They come with a plastic cover to hide that stuff. It doesn't look as good but it's a solution if you need it.
Ah very interesting, that for that info. Looks like I'm getting a Nest. I'll still probably fix the hole.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Unless you live in an extremely dry climate, Airwave isn't going to save you anything you'd ever notice.
I live in Florida, and the thermostat probably runs in Airwave mode less than an hour a year. So that is saving me less than $0.20 over that extended period of time.
zephervack
Member
Aww man, shouldnt complain about a free thing but the government here is offering free Nest Thermostats, this is probably what we will get instead of the old one.
Yep. If it turns off completely I bet it's completely white and unintrusive.
Ecobee is really the only competitor worth a damn (and can be argued is superior) if you want things like mostly reliable away modes, learning, etc.
The rest are at best contractor grade things you can dump in a rental/Airbnb to control temperature when empty
TheCochese
Banned
Does it come in hearing aid brown?
I'd figure it would be a nice deal if you get extra tax credits for a nest vs say a programmable thing
the thermostat blends in perfectly with any aunt's or grandparent's house
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
I found mine alot more useful than that.
I had an ecobee for a few weeks and didn't care for it. My thoughts on it are here: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=245554824
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
It looks like the Ecobee 3 Lite is the same price as the Nest E. The Sweet Home recommended the Nest over the Ecobee. (4 not evaluated yet)
My wife and I move into a new home soon and we are looking at potentially getting the Nest E. I don't want to spend the $170 if the payback won't occur within 3-5 years.
Can anyone who has switched from a programmable thermostat that lives in a variable climate area (ie experiences winter conditions) to a smart thermostat tell me if they actually saw savings?
My wife and I move into a new home soon and we are looking at potentially getting the Nest E. I don't want to spend the $170 if the payback won't occur within 3-5 years.
Can anyone who has switched from a programmable thermostat that lives in a variable climate area (ie experiences winter conditions) to a smart thermostat tell me if they actually saw savings?
Did you check if your power company offers incentives or rebates?
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
The gas company does not for sure. I need to double check on the electrical. I don't think I saw them on the list either, though.
I love my nest. I got it for free though, but the metal and the display are my favorite parts. My house is too small for me to need more, but it's a lovely device. I actually appreciate the proximity sensor thing too. But I have it set up wrong and keep forgetting to adjust it.
That's strange. I've been using the ecobee3 (and 7 remote sensors) for a couple of years now and it has been terrific. I've never had any issues with the thermostat showing the wrong temp.
Verge loved the E: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/22/16332938/nest-thermostat-e-better-than-original
I don't agree that Farsight is inconsequential — it's very useful to me — but I can see how it can be if you just want a cheap, but quality smart thermostat.
And after seeing some more real world shots, I can see now why they used a lower res display. You're not seeing edge details at all with it being frosted, which is fine for that sort of look.
As for the ecobee4, they weren't so hot on the Alexa integration: https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/25/16349860/ecobee4-thermostat-alexa-smarthome-review
No ESP:
Cumbersome physical controls (or lack thereof):
I don't agree that Farsight is inconsequential — it's very useful to me — but I can see how it can be if you just want a cheap, but quality smart thermostat.
And after seeing some more real world shots, I can see now why they used a lower res display. You're not seeing edge details at all with it being frosted, which is fine for that sort of look.
As for the ecobee4, they weren't so hot on the Alexa integration: https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/25/16349860/ecobee4-thermostat-alexa-smarthome-review
No ESP:
Cumbersome physical controls (or lack thereof):
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
I wish the Nest would support homekit, that'll probably never happen though :/
TheCochese
Banned
That Verge review of the Ecobee4 is laughable.
Of course, the Verge has been a joke for a couple years now.
Of course, the Verge has been a joke for a couple years now.
What was wrong with it?
I've got way too many problems with the aesthetics of my home to worry about the resolution on the screen of my flipping thermostat. I'm still rocking the dial that's probably been on the wall since the house was built in the 80s.
I need to get one of these. Is the installation pretty much comparable to any regular thermostat or do I need to worry about missing wires or anything like that?
I need to get one of these. Is the installation pretty much comparable to any regular thermostat or do I need to worry about missing wires or anything like that?
It depends on whether your current installation has a common "C" wire going to the thermostat already. I'd suggest taking off your current thermostat to check what wires it has before you buy anything.
My house didn't have the C wire at the thermostat when I was shopping for a "smart" thermostat, so I went with the ecobee3 since they have the kit included that you install at the furnace to provide the C wire with the existing wires. I've now added the C wire to my installation while we were doing a kitchen renovation last year, so I removed the kit from my furnace, but I'm still happy with the ecobee3.
Awesome, thank you!
No problem. The installation is pretty simple if you have the correct wires already. Just make sure you label them as you go.
Even without a C wire the Nest will usually still work by leeching some power from R.
Also if you have any issues, their support is absolutely stellar.
My wiring was an absolute mess so I just bought some new thermostat wiring, fished it through by taping it to the old wires, and rewired everything. Probably not recommended if you're not comfortable with electronics, but if you have a simple single transformer furnace, it's really easy to do.
I had read of issues using that method back then, and ecobee having the PEK kit to ensure it would work sounded like the safer option. As for support, the ecobee people were great to work with as well when my contractors broke the mounting bracket for my ecobee3 while they were moving it. They shipped out a new mounting bracket the next day so I wasn't without it for long. Thankfully I still had my old "dumb" thermostat around so I just installed that until the reno was done to avoid any other problems.
Yeah, I would recommend updating your wiring if you can anyways, regardless of which model you select. It was easy to run my new wiring from the furnace as my basement is unfinished, but there were some difficulties getting it to the spot where the thermostat was installed as it took some indirect turns through wall studs on the way. I did eventually get it done myself without getting my contractor involved.
I've had mine (Ecobee 3) for about 15 months now and thus far have had zero issues.
It's worth noting that Nest has pretty limited capability to begin with when driving accessories. Ecobee is much, much better.
Nest is almost completely useless when driving HRV, humidifier or IAQ systems, so if you're planning on using in a house built recently, there are much better options such as Honeywell Prestige or Ecobee (which is still limited).
Nests are nicely packaged low-end thermostats at a high price point.
Nest is almost completely useless when driving HRV, humidifier or IAQ systems, so if you're planning on using in a house built recently, there are much better options such as Honeywell Prestige or Ecobee (which is still limited).
Nests are nicely packaged low-end thermostats at a high price point.