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Ninja Theory teases new project, unveiling soon
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I get the distinct impression you took everything he said in the past deeply personal.
No. I just think him opening his mouth is bad for the company in the same way Peter Molyneux opening his mouth was bad for Fable.
Pristine_Condition
Member
If it's not Heavenly Sword 2, I probably won't care.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Going out on a limb:
No. Nooooooooo.
Ninja Theory don't you dare ruin the badass Hiryu,
Didn't his studio just throw some "old Dante" homosexual jokes at people/DMC fans some days ago?
I don't think he or his studio will ever learn anything.
The Ninja Theory Defense Force is going to come down upon you bringing that up. (Regardless of whether or not it was an innocent little joke, I thought it was poor taste)
I generally like Ninja Theory outside of DmC, I just think they're a talented studio who has bad leadership at the higher levels.
Refreshment.01
Member
I pray team Ninja doesn't outsource Xtreme Beach Volleyball to these guys.
Very competent developer none the less.
Very competent developer none the less.
Acquiescence
Member
No, they didn't. That's just what certain people here tried to turn it into.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Good for them
Just hope it's not a new entry in a franchise I care about
Just hope it's not a new entry in a franchise I care about
He did a lot of damage in opinion. Just make the damn game and don`t pretend to be a rock star.
I was at the GDC panel where they showed images with "some "old Dante" homosexual jokes at people/DMC fans". They were nothing of the sort, it was a joke in relation to Capcom asking them to make DmC like a western movie. But as I've come to learn over the course of this game's development, bitter fans like to fabricate stories to make NT look bad.
And evidently you're one of those people.
So why place him with the cowboys from Brokeback Mountain specifically?
Banana Kid
Member
Because it's funny?
Acquiescence
Member
So why place him with the brawlers in Fight Club specifically?
Going out on a limb:
So they're revealing their mobile game?
And then die hard Ninja Theory defenders like to glance over the fact that out of all of the thousands western film images they pulled from they decided to put the old version of the character into an image featuring two gay cowboys from a film that barely even qualifies as a western in the first place.
I'll admit that even my knee-jerk reaction to it was a bit harsher than it should have been. But really, you have to be a pretty blind follower to not see the allusion they were going at there.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
looks like it
Nothing about DmC displays they have an especially firm grasp on (intentional) humor.
Fight Club has western themes now?
No, the new Strider is supposed to be a XBLA/Steam game
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it would be cool to see a this-gen rendering of some cool live action actors.
I would like to see them collaborate with the actors and do the mocaps and such. Onimusha is the perfect game for NT.
RedAssedApe
Banned
onimusha would be cool.
i'd hate if they redesigned samanosuke though...takeshi kaneshiro is such a beautiful man lol
i'd hate if they redesigned samanosuke though...takeshi kaneshiro is such a beautiful man lol
Acquiescence
Member
What the hell has "western themes" got to do with anything? It was a slideshow. Dante was overlaid on a still of Brokeback Mountain and he was overlaid on a still of Fight Club, the latter of which was glossed by certain DMC fans in favour of accusing NT of defaming the character because he appeared in an image with two gay cowboys. It fucking pathetic to even make that connection. Nothing more than clutching at straws in yet another misguided attempt to bitch about NT some more.
So what if they were? It was just joke, it was harmless, and people in the audience got a laugh out of it.
Besides, homosexual undertones are something certain fans of this series are quite familiar with;
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10500000/devil-may-cry-4-devil-may-cry-4-10531156-457-335.jpg
http://s4.zerochan.net/Devil.May.Cry.full.915995.jpg
Those are just off of quick google searches for DMC fan art. Gay connotations are nothing new to this series' fans, and you trying to get on NT's case for making a slight joke (that was more in relation to something else), just shows that you're looking for something to hate.
So cut it out.
This times infinity. When you are in a certain position, you can't say whatever you want without repercussions. Rub people the wrong way publicly, and you have to deal with the fallout. In their case, thinking you're an arrogant blowhard.
Capcom didn't learn from Bionic Commando. Fair enough. If they don't learn from DmC, they deserve whatever fate they get (should this announcement involve them).
Nirolak made a pretty compelling case for it. Technically it was DMC5, but DmC is DMC5 regardless of naming conventions until Capcom actually demonstrates there are two Devil May Cry lines.
Naming conventions aside. NT is the DMC team assuming DMC still exists.
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Just scroll up and see what I said before. Out of all of the western images they decided to choose they decided to put the old version of Dante, a character they had previously ripped on, into an image featuring two gay cowboys. How do you not see the pretty basic allusion that's going on there?
The Fight Club image doesn't get mentioned because there's nothing immediately offensive about it and there's no up front "lol gay people" joke in it.
Congratulations, you've discovered you can find gay art of pretty much anything on the internet.
Next up on our Internet 101: Rule 34
Team Klimt
Member
DmC was incredible. So many haters never even bought it out of spite. So sad.
Freezasaurus
Member
Imagine a Heavenly Sword game without shitty controls. It would be amazing. The story in the original was decent, but the controls were horrendous.
Jawmuncher
Member
I thought strider was being handled by the Silent Hill Homecoming devs?
it would be cool to see a this-gen rendering of some cool live action actors.
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Takeshi Kaneshiro look very weird in that photo.
[quote="Dahbomb, post: 52818648"]Why the fuck do people think this is DmC2? Not even COD/AC announces a sequel 2 months after the previous game's release.[/QUOTE]
and going sales wise DmC2 will not happen anytime soon,Capcom wanted GOW sales numbers but didn't get them,so the next DMC will most likely be in-house developed DMC5 with Panta Rhei engine.
And no one would have made that connection if they didn't pick a movie about a relationship between gay cowboys over so many other things that qualified as westerns. Even if they honestly meant nothing by it, few were going to give them the benefit of the doubt after taking shots at the old series on plenty of other occasions.
Why should people buy things they don't want? Just because it has the name of a franchise they like on it doesn't obligate them to purchase it.
Good job on missing, and/or ignoring my point.
Your point was that DMC fans have drawn gay art of things. Just like there's most likely gay art of Mario, Half Life, and Mickey Mouse. Your logic is that since some people have done that, it should be widely accepted. You're not understanding that there's a huge gap between some fans doing some fan-art for their DeviantArt page and the developers of a franchise putting "their" title character into an image that is an allusion to a gay joke in an official presentation.
it would be cool to see a this-gen rendering of some cool live action actors.
Still the most beautiful man in the world. Definitely wouldn't cut it today. They should go with Ron Perlman.
Acquiescence
Member
There's nothing offensive about the Brokeback Mountain image given the context. If that was the only slide, then sure, it would look suspect. But there was also a slide where he was featured in what many consider to be one of the coolest, provocative films ever made. But hey, let's just totally ignore that and focus on the image of Dante standing side by side with two gay cowboys and all the 'terrible things' that alludes to.
Exactly. Who gives a fuck. Brokeback Mountain is a good film.
Dude, you're just splitting hairs here. You brought up issue with the gay subtext in that image, and now you're saying that it's fine for fans to do it, but the developers should be held to a higher standard. Even if it was intended as a harmless joke. They have just a right to mention it as much as the fans do.
I'm not continuing this discussion, it's ridiculous.
call_kotaku
Member
And there's the notion of DmC being NT's problem, when clearly it's Capcom's.
Like I said, out of all of the images they chose for a western movie they choose a movie that's barely a western and is known for something completely different. I don't know about you but most people think of John Wayne, or Tombstone, or Clint Eastwood when thinking about western films. And the character they shopped into there is a version of the character the company has also taken a few jabs at in the past.
It's a stupid image from a silly powerpoint, but I just think it was a joke in poor taste. What I don't like is that stupid Brokeback Mountain image overshadowed the real thing worth talking about during that presentation - which was most of the other Dante concepts were awful.
If you cant see the difference between a small group of people who do simple fanart and professional game developers at an official event then yeah, this conversation really isn't worth continuing with you.