So why exactly did he say it in Japanese?
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Hideki Kamiya shits all over Kotaku
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I had to unfollow him, too,so now I count on the game journalists I follow to retweet all his best stuff.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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He was getting a ton of tweets along those lines that night and he had already responded to those same questions several times. I'm not necessarily justifying it, but if you read his twitter for ten minutes, you'll see that the fastest way to annoy him is to send him repeat questions, and he expects people to at least look through his feed a little before they tweet him.
Well that's a pretty pointless example considering we are not talking about immigrants here.
Sweet dreams, everyone & some クソ馬鹿ぼんくらガイジン
lol what, he's clearly trolling, and some of the people he's responding to are "foreigners"who are idiots. also I love that the guy he's responding to has a weeaboo twitter handle
Broder Salsa
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Such selective pickings.
Haha I like him talking shit about Kotaku but he's clearly also a bit of a bellend himself. But great entertainment.
Well, and idiots speaking a foreign language targeting him as a representation of the mindset of all Japanese devs (since Kotaku used him as the poster child.) The actual issue that led them to spamming him was specifically Japan vs the rest of the world, so I'm not terribly surprised he responded by calling out idiots specifically in the rest of the world. The entire article set the situation up as Japan vs Everyone Else; it was the context for everything that followed. Not good PR, but I just can't find it in my heart to be offended by it.
el retorno
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Why did he tweet it in japanese with a winkyface?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Oh my, loosen your panties. He said "stupid foreigners." Big freaking deal - how is that racist? It's funny. Everyone's too on eager to call the PC Police.
Also, "Do you eat shit?" is my new favorite response to everything, lol.
Also, "Do you eat shit?" is my new favorite response to everything, lol.
That's a much, much larger ethno-social debate topic though. It's probably similar to the canto 鬼佬 (Gwai Lo), which means more or less the same thing but is common usage - 'foreign devil', 'ghost man', whatever.
You're basically objecting to language itself at this point.
Ok someone on a vacation then.
Gaijin is the foreigner part. He says the entire phrase afaik.
Sickboy007
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He respectfully insulted them in a language they couldn't understand.
Yeah, really hard to respect a man who makes the best games around and created the third person action genre.
because its a joke and he's trying to troll you. he succeeded.
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Deleted member 17706
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From that article:
In my experience, this is quite often the truth.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "gwai lo" always offensive (outside of joke usage)? There's really no way to use it in a positive light, right?
That's not necessarily the case with "gaijin"　外人.
Chie Satonaka
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Because he was being a smarmy asshole, not a racist xenophobe.
StreetsAhead
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They were rude and they were foreign.
It's not - not by sensible people. The only people who avoid it are people who have, in my experience, been yelled at by over-zealous foreigners who inexplicably take great offense at the truth.
And again, they were fucking stupid and they were foreign.
jim-jam bongs
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Gemüsepizza;46219901 said:
am I disagreeing that the kotaku piece was out of line and largely full of shit? nope. still doesn't justify his gaijin and stupid fucking foreigners comments in any way, but by all means give a racist a free pass because he made some games you like.
Hitler was a pretty sweet painter, surely that excuses the holocaust right? and yeah I just got all Godwin up in this bitch.
People are taking him ludicrously out of context.
When you look at his original tweet, which is actually pretty polite and honest it doesn't seem to warrant at all the write up it got from Kotaku. Just because PC is big in the west doesn't mean Kamiya has to be interested in it, he's a game designer, not a businessman, and PG's resident businessman, Inaba visited valve last year which makes this whole thing even more stupid.
When you look at his original tweet, which is actually pretty polite and honest it doesn't seem to warrant at all the write up it got from Kotaku. Just because PC is big in the west doesn't mean Kamiya has to be interested in it, he's a game designer, not a businessman, and PG's resident businessman, Inaba visited valve last year which makes this whole thing even more stupid.
That's a pretty interesting comparison you got there, lol
None, but just like in real life if you come off as an ass, you can't blame other people for viewing him as an ass
If I walked up to someone in real life and out of nowhere called them "clueless" I'd say I've earned a few unpleasant things coming my way.
Chuck Norris
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Kamiya is a moron, and a douchebag. Yes he makes good games, but he is seriously an arrogant prick. Why do you guys accept this so happily?
Zen_Arcade
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He's like the Louis CK of video game developers. Everything he says is entertaining enough that it's not really offensive to me. I just like watching him do whatever he wants.
Also, I don't care about being called a stupid foreigner, and that's even if he was generalizing that broadly in the first place. It could have just been a bunch of American or European people hassling him on twitter all day and he could have been referring to them.
el retorno
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I don't mean to insinuate he's racists or hates "gajin" but the statement is racist. You don't have to be a racist to say something racist.
kotaku: hideki kamiya takes over japan in bloodless coup
Relaxed Muscle
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If I were to travel to France and 80% of people trolled me and treated me with no respect and I said "Those fucking french people!" that would me make me a racist or just annoyed about the treatment I recived in such country?
Riposte
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"Them" being not every english speaking reader, but "some" people he finds annoying.
EDIT: It is amazing how little context matters. I guess there is a discussion whether saying the Japanese equivalent of foreigner at all was wrong, but I think people are greatly misinterpreting him.
call_kotaku
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Hitler's actually a pretty bad painter. If Da Vinci started the Holocaust I might be okay with it
And that allows him to tell people to fuck off how?
If he's tired of people asking him for a PC port, he could choose not to reply. Instead he disregarded what the first guy said with a "whatever", and told the second guy to fuck off.
Yeah, it isn't his job to port games to PC. He doesn't care if someone does it or not. He already said he doesn't care about it. He's still a dick for treating people that way.
Unrelated to everything, but is that...
...Neil DeGrasse Tyson holding a Virtual Boy!?!
Yes. It is.
http://www.startalkradio.net/show/advancing-to-the-next-level-the-science-of-video-games-part-2/
HAH gotta love the kotaku title to "The Guy Who Made Bayonetta Is Clueless about Valve and PC Gaming"
That's exactly what it is though. Tons of English speaking people intentionally try to get a rise out of him when crap blogs like Kotaku run something on him because they know he responds to everything.
No Gaijin is translated as Foreigner. He says fucking and stupid additionally.
Who gives a shit? I'm not trying to be his friend.
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Deleted member 17706
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Holy fucking shit... We've arrived! It's Hitler comparisons time, people!
There is no such thing as nuance or degrees. It's all or nothing! Black or white!
Maybe this isn't entirely on topic, but is there a good source on racism and other cultural issues in Japan? I'm really curious because all my life growing up you hear cool things about Japan. Maybe some weird stuff, but nothing about political issues etc. As I get older though it seems like there is this incredibly sexist/racist undercurrent running below many things I hear about Japan. Women getting special sections on trains because of the groping issues (similar to India). Of course I'm not suggesting the US is somehow enlightened. We certainly have our own issues.
TheBaronOfNA
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Just trying to say that this topic didn't come from nowhere or that doesn't have negative connotations beyond usual Twitter Fights
I can't tell if you're answering his question or responding to his comment as a whole
Funchameleon
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I thought it was impossible for me to have more respect than I did for Kamiya
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