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African tribes hunting with spears in Africa... most depressing video I've seen
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SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I think all sport hunting should be done without guns. That would make it a lot more interesting.
Jim E. Rossler
Banned
Would you rather
A. live in a concentration camp until you reach adolescence and get executed via a slit to your throat, or
B. Live your life like normal but randomly get jumped by a gang at some unknown point during your life and get stabbed 60 times
I think most would pick B
freenudemacusers
Member
If only they were as skilled as legolas.
C. Pretend that none of that exists while i enjoy my steak that came off the grill and was bought at Central Market who doesnt hurt animals =P
Mohonky
Member
That hippo had them on the edge of their toes. There was a good shot where the hippo tried to get a bite in, man a live it's easy to see how they kill so many people. Took a real fight to get it down too.
Would have been bad ass to see the elephant grab some one and just throw them in the air; spears flying in, people being thrown about like rag dolls. Would be entertaining
Would have been bad ass to see the elephant grab some one and just throw them in the air; spears flying in, people being thrown about like rag dolls. Would be entertaining
Jim E. Rossler
Banned
Yeah man It's totally bad-ass when people are maimed and killed in environments with no modern medical care for my amusement
While the loss of human life is regrettable, seeing some africans ragdolling through the air like a goddamn chinese kung fu flick would be hella fuckin' balls-to-the-walls awesome!
HAL_Laboratory
Member
Why is it depressing? It's not like they're pumping the animals full or hormones and butchering them in a disrespectful way. This should be the way everyone gets their meat, I find it kind of uplifting.
johnFkennedy
Member
This is the first time that I've seriously contemplated becoming a vegetarian.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Yeah, we should do battle with the beasts we eat. It gives us an appreciation for what it is. I kind of feel like an asshole eating meat from the supermarket. If I had to do this shit to get it, I probably wouldn't be vegetarian, but I'd eat meat less and respect it more.
On a random note, it's interesting how little some of these animals bleed from massive stab wounds. That is some thick skin/fat.
Really? The assembly line of animals that are processed everyday in shitty conditions, castrated in a cost effective way to build fat, pushed full of hormones, artificially inseminated & hooked up to a machine to pump their off springs food for another species to drink, pushed to death producing organic material in which their young develop in.... and then butchered after a short life living in small pens... to feed a mass population that on average waste 29 million tons or 40% of food each year.... and the over consumption, lets not even go their...
and this is the first time you contemplated becoming a vegetarian?
Indigenous hunters don't waste a single part of the animal, they feed on less longer and the animal actually lived a full life, or more of a full life than livestock in the food industry....
And honestly, meat is a food, nourishes our bodies.. Nothing wrong with that... nor anything wrong with being a vegetarian or vegan...
The best case scenario is allowing the animal to live in an open environment. And then kill it swiftly when the time is right to harvest the meat.
What happens in some slaughter houses is downright disgusting, but that doesn't make inflicting multiple spear wounds and making the animal face slow, agonizing death a good alternative. But I can't blame those hunters since their resources are limited.
scar tissue
Banned
It's not like they were attacked by lions in their sleep.
They chose to attack an elephant, so it's fair game.
Live by the
I don't see much of a difference whether a lion is killed by its would-be prey or a indigenous human hunter.
Edit: Scratch that, I see no difference at all. Human life isn't sacred or anything.
StoppedInTracks
Member
The hippo.
Riposte
Member
Big cats are often very humane killers believe it or not. They go right for the quick kill.
Humane? The fuck are people on about... these are tribes throwing spears what kind of ridiculous contraption are ya'll imagining that could give them the power to humanely hunt/kill a hippo? Walk up to the guy and put a bolt pistol to its head?
Any hunter generally wants to go for the quick kill. The hunters in this video are obviously trying to kill their prey as fast as they can, it's just not easy to do that using thrown spears.
travisbickle
Member
You should be happy, the fact you don't have to run around in a loin cloth chasing your dinner, which also has a good chance of killing you.
On that train of thought I think we've found a way for that GAFer to lose a couple stone, chase after dangerous animals in Africa, no fatties in that crowd.
On that train of thought I think we've found a way for that GAFer to lose a couple stone, chase after dangerous animals in Africa, no fatties in that crowd.
Always-honest
Banned
What did you expect? Meat doesn't grow on trees.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
Still sad to see an intelligent dignified creature meet such a slow and gruesome end.
I don't resent these people for killing it though, don't get me wrong. If I had to choose between starvation and killing an elephant for food, I'd be the first person lining up to throw a spear in the poor bastards eye.
True, not really that different from being eaten alive by a pack of lions / hyenas though.
Boozeroony
Member
I enjoyed the sound effect.
"Swoosh"
"Swoosh"
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
And if you did it with the people you lived with and cared about, your convictions would adapt to your people because we are in many ways social creatures. And while you did it, you'd be blinded with adrenaline. And when you were done, you'd feel the relief and accomplishment together with the others. And while you were eating it, you'd feel pretty damn good because nutrition does that, especially after periods of strong hunger. And when you saw your people survive in good strength because of your efforts, you'd feel damn good about being a hunter.
It's our nature.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Aren't these films were exploitative of the natives involved?
Or exaggerating the tribal rituals etc. of the tribe for Western audience? Seemingly shown to be barbaric and ignorant of endangered species, while misunderstanding of what the ritual is composed of, or what it really means in the evolutionary past? Or just plain exploitative?
/Anthro Student
Or exaggerating the tribal rituals etc. of the tribe for Western audience? Seemingly shown to be barbaric and ignorant of endangered species, while misunderstanding of what the ritual is composed of, or what it really means in the evolutionary past? Or just plain exploitative?
/Anthro Student
IpsoFacto
Member
I don't blame the people who find the video shocking at all.
Tribes kill and sometimes do it very gruesomely to get their meal. We are inclined to always think of the noble savage, because it's a confortable to do so...
However, it might also shock you guys to learn this and again, I don't blame anyone for getting worked up over this, that elephants in many african countries are considered harmful in the same way we perceive rabbits, warthogs and foxes as parasites that ruin crops and kill the farmer's live-stock.
Tribes kill and sometimes do it very gruesomely to get their meal. We are inclined to always think of the noble savage, because it's a confortable to do so...
However, it might also shock you guys to learn this and again, I don't blame anyone for getting worked up over this, that elephants in many african countries are considered harmful in the same way we perceive rabbits, warthogs and foxes as parasites that ruin crops and kill the farmer's live-stock.
JiuJitsuka
Neo Member
Personally, I believe that anesthetizing an animal before slaying it with CO2 for example is a much better option. It's merciful towards the poor animal. Moreover, I believe the act of slaying animals shouldn't be in masses. Under these circumstances, I can eat meat without having a bad feeling about the animal.
In the end, the animal will die, get absorbed in the earth and plants take up the nutrients. Vegetarians eat the plants. So if these animals hadn't died to supply the plants, vegetarians would run out of a food source.
The video just shows how things were before we had modern technology which can mercifully slay an animal in order to eat it. It seems very brutal, but always remember that ALL animals do this. Look at lions when they hunt, for example. Or any other animal which hunts down a smaller.
In the end, the animal will die, get absorbed in the earth and plants take up the nutrients. Vegetarians eat the plants. So if these animals hadn't died to supply the plants, vegetarians would run out of a food source.
The video just shows how things were before we had modern technology which can mercifully slay an animal in order to eat it. It seems very brutal, but always remember that ALL animals do this. Look at lions when they hunt, for example. Or any other animal which hunts down a smaller.
It's sad but at the same time they are hungry and have to eat. I think it's incredibly ballsy to hunt like this. I would be terrified to hunt Elephants and Hippos in this fashion. Plus, I wonder how many times they accidentally spear each other. That would definitely be bad news. Actually, any of these dudes should do the javelin in the olympics. These guys are very skilled hunters.
Spoken like a true nerd who has never left his backyard.
I find it rather sad in the sense that people will bitch and moan about perceived problems (first world ones), but they couldn't possibly imagine having to physically fight for things such as food like these tribes and savages.
It is quite impressive.
It is quite impressive.
Choke on the Magic
Banned
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MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
All things considered, shit like this is even more depressing.
*sigh* I don't know, I guess trophy hunting just makes zero sense to me. I'd feel terrible inflicting that kind of pain on an animal.
*sigh* I don't know, I guess trophy hunting just makes zero sense to me. I'd feel terrible inflicting that kind of pain on an animal.
Miggytronz
Member
I found it pretty fucking awesome to see "primitives" fight for their meal. 10,000 too. Circle of life at its best. Great find OP.
Man trying to kill that hippo was risky to say the least, they can really fuck you up.
Man trying to kill that hippo was risky to say the least, they can really fuck you up.
I'd rather be killed with a gun than a spear if I had to vote.
Seriously, that hippo part was some real scary stuff. They did not want to let it out of the water. They knew how deadly the hippo was. Plus it was with it's children. If it had suddenly charged them, they would have all bolted. But maybe it didn't because it was with it's babies. I kept looking at the elephant and hippo kills seeing how if they were just a little bit smarter they would have possibly made it out alive. Then again, if these animals were smarter, we might not be here. There's something to be said for appreciating your place in the circle of life, but there's more to be said for not abusing your spot at the top of the food chain as well. I know that a lot of people would look at that video and call those people savages, but too often it's modern civilization that meets that description, in relation to nature. We're the 'gods' of this Earth now, or at least that's how we act.
yea never saw the point in big game hunting either but as long as they are following the posted laws and regulations I have no real problem with it. I'd rather go deer hunting then big game hunting in africa.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I finally gave in to morbid curiosity and watched this... the music is really fitting.
The hippo at the end was one tough mother-lover... can't believe how many spears and how many people it took to put it down. It does all seem so senseless.
The elephant one probably made me wince most because of the spears in the head, near the eye sockets and stuff like that... just not nice at all. Again though, quite a tough beast.
Y'know say whatever you want about the motives of the hunters and make whatever ethical argument you want, I just feel sorry for these particular animals. Darwinism and life are cruel enough without this shit.
The hippo at the end was one tough mother-lover... can't believe how many spears and how many people it took to put it down. It does all seem so senseless.
The elephant one probably made me wince most because of the spears in the head, near the eye sockets and stuff like that... just not nice at all. Again though, quite a tough beast.
Y'know say whatever you want about the motives of the hunters and make whatever ethical argument you want, I just feel sorry for these particular animals. Darwinism and life are cruel enough without this shit.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I don't know French... any bombshells amongst the dialogue there? What do they do with all those chicks?
PdotMichael
Banned
for factory farming
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