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African tribes hunting with spears in Africa... most depressing video I've seen
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CornBurrito
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Yeah, not the Maoist one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward_(evolution)
Also called the cultural explosion, or the Upper Paleolithic Revolution.
I don't see the depressing part here. I guess to elephant thingy might be sad, didn't get to that, the music was way too annoying.
The way animals are treated in farms is much, much worse than this hunting. From what I saw, the video was actually interesting and not depressing at all. I think y'all got influenced too much by the annoying background music.
The way animals are treated in farms is much, much worse than this hunting. From what I saw, the video was actually interesting and not depressing at all. I think y'all got influenced too much by the annoying background music.
Salacious Crumb
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_cognition
Elephants do exhibit a lot of what we would consider 'human traits'.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Interesting dual usage. Thanks.
CornBurrito
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I also have to wonder if he ever read classical literature, or mythology. I can't believe someone seriously thought anthropomorphic thinking came after the existence of television.
aorange999
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I met this Masai bro who was my wife's assistant when she was doing elephant research in Tanzania, awesome, friendly, nice guy...skinny as a rail. Then my wife told me that a few weeks before he had fended off a lion with his bare hands (no knife or spear) when trekking in the wild. Those Masai warriors are serious business.
Well you focused on the killing aspect and that's what I'm speaking to.
But in the case of the bolded, I would watch a movie called Food Inc. In summary, I think farmers get a bad rap sometimes and it's often undeserved. The methods they use are often terrible but required because we demand so much meat. They're simply doing what they can to keep up with demand and unfortunately those methods are often shitty.
If every farm operated like a local farm and went the "humane" route then we would have a serious meat shortage because demand would not be met. Ask your fellow americans to stop demanding so much meat at low prices.
Want less, pay more and demand a certain quality and you will get it. If not then you get nothing. They aren't simply going to stop factory farming out of the goodness of their hearts. They have bills to pay and mouths to feed just like all of us.
What saddens me far more than this video, is the fact that anyone would make a thread or comment on it in any sort of negative fashion. Anyone trying to purport that this is 'wrong' has my extreme ire. This is how we have survived for nearly 2 million years. Take some anthropology classes someday, it will do you well to appreciate mankind, where we've come from, evolution, and other cultures.
Most cultures throughout history besides modern western culture revere animals far more than we do. There's a big difference between killing them in slaughterhouses and not giving a shit, and hunting them and being thankful to the earth for providing. These animals are revered for giving their lives for those who eat them typically.
evil solrac v3.0
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get out of her with that bullshit.
no, it isn't. egyptians and cats ring a bell?
mayans revered the Jaguar as a god and respected it?
Flatline
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Did you hit a deer with your car or something? A friend of mine did and hated them ever since.
You know what, true. I like the idea of worshiping some cool panther god.
Hunter-gatherer cultures have respected, revered, and even worshiped the animals that they hunted. They respected the animal spirits, and the gods that helped them during the hunt. Mainly because it was fucking hard to hunt and get meat to eat so they were super grateful when they did. Believe that they weren't as casual about it as someone driving to Win-Dixie for a pound of ground beef who probably couldn't give a fuck.
theshizzle
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Vindictus: Real Life Edition
That's not depressing, you want to see depressing?
Funky Papa
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Sure does. Luckily those of us in modern societies don't need meat anymore to not starve. Hopefully the entire world's human population can eventually be in such a state.
The only problem I have with this is the fact that those hunters kill the animals so slowly.
Those spears aren't good enough. After all these centuries of hunting one would expect they have developed techniques.
But instead they are inflicting hundreds of minor wounds until the animal just can't take anymore. I'm guessing after they fall down they still live for a long time.
Those spears aren't good enough. After all these centuries of hunting one would expect they have developed techniques.
But instead they are inflicting hundreds of minor wounds until the animal just can't take anymore. I'm guessing after they fall down they still live for a long time.
One day soon everyone will eat meat.
theignoramus
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(looks up the wiki entry)
gee, I wonder what the Italians that mustard gassed Ethiopia were.
shinobi602
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They gotta eat mang...
Don't know why they killed that beautiful leopard though :-/
Don't know why they killed that beautiful leopard though :-/
Is this serious?
Are vegetarians/vegans in that high of a horse? Thanks for the laugh good sir.
mikeybwright
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Thank God my (and I guess all of our) ancestors left that place.
Dark Stalkers
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none of the ones i met irl are
The human race would not survive on hunting alone, and imagine how many species would be extinct if humans didn't raise their own feed animals.
Encouraging humane treatment on farms is encouraged, but there's no denying that the food industry is a necessity. In fact there are many examples that the "natural" way of hunting is more destructive. The cod industry on the east coast fell apart because of overfishing. Then these fishermen are screaming that their way of life no longer exists. Well, boo hoo. Same thing happened to the whaling industry.
The farmer grows his crops. The rancher raises his animals. At least they're creating food instead of just taking from nature. Hunting and fishings needs to be strictly regulated or they'll just rape nature to the point of extinction.
In a lot of cases, huntings deserve more criticism than ranching.
Encouraging humane treatment on farms is encouraged, but there's no denying that the food industry is a necessity. In fact there are many examples that the "natural" way of hunting is more destructive. The cod industry on the east coast fell apart because of overfishing. Then these fishermen are screaming that their way of life no longer exists. Well, boo hoo. Same thing happened to the whaling industry.
The farmer grows his crops. The rancher raises his animals. At least they're creating food instead of just taking from nature. Hunting and fishings needs to be strictly regulated or they'll just rape nature to the point of extinction.
In a lot of cases, huntings deserve more criticism than ranching.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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This has nothing to do with that and everything to do with sleazy people trying to make a buck via exploitation films.
Same here.
The only bad experience with a vegan I've had was with my English teacher. She never told us she was one so at the end of the course when we brought some food and stuff for a kind of a party she didn't eat anything. I thought it was a bit annoying, she could have always told us. Oh well not really a bad experience.
el retorno
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This video is 45 years old. While there still might be some that do this I think africa has moved a little past this.
surprised it took this long to see this idiotic comment pop up
starchild excalibur
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What? I don't even...
It's not an idiotic comment. While I didn't fault any of the hunters in the video and, in many ways, the hunter/hunted dynamic is way more humane than the dynamic that exists in many parts of the US, I still couldn't help but root for some of the animals that were weaving through the crowds.
Hopefully some day the same can be said about the treatment of animals for food in the US.
Funky Papa
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In all fairness, Africa was a land of unabridged savagery during much of the 60's (well, and the 70's, and the 80's and even a good chunk of the 90's). The Simba and Zanzibar rebellions were every bit as shocking as portrayed in the film.
Anyway, the preamble at the beginning of the film is pretty jawdropping. I wouldn't call it a pro-imperialism movie, but holy white burden, Batman!
el retorno
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I´d hope so too. Though I would put elephants and many of those animals above cows and chickens on the intellgence scale.
Isn´t there already artificial meat?
Now the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
This is an infinitely better and humbling video of a tribe hunting using the Persistence hunting technique, from BBC's Life of Mammals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
Alligatorjandro
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I was watching No Reservations once,he was in Africa,and these tribesmen cooked an egg in the dirt.
Lighten up, Francis.
Lasthope106
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Give me a freaking break. These animals are being hunted like our ancestors did thousands of years ago. Nothing will go to waste. Sure it might seem violent to people who don't understand where meat comes from, but that's part of the cycle of life. One type of organisms eats others. Deal with it OP.
no its idiotic point blank.
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