this would be the entire ram available including the graphic memory, it's not the same at all.
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VG247 Rumor: PS4 > Xbox 720; NowGamer Rumor: Xbox 720 > PS4
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this would be the entire ram available including the graphic memory, it's not the same at all.
les papillons sexuels
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the article is now saying it's a 50% raw computational power advantage.
Bulldozer and high performance lol.
Are those recommended specs from Crytek? Strange that they choose AMD's weakest CPU from the FX line up and put it alongside an i7.
Now it's confirmed, 24/7 just reading GAF.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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That 10 minute upgrade! It's like engineers are working overtime!
I think his math was wrong. The numbers are the same.
lol
They lost it on many things. But having to use exotic cooling (which still couldn't prevent high failure rates... some of which needed to be serviced under warranty) added costs. So did high failure rates. And so did the fact that cramming 230 watts of tech into a consumer device is part of the reason it was so expensive. Cell costs were symptomatic of the high wattage. Watts = power = money. HDMI was a drop in the bucket. Sure, they didn't do themselves any favors with blu-ray, but it still would have lost billions even without it (and probably lost the HD format wars... whatever that was worth in royalties).
I think many here will be extremely disappointed with the visuals we'll get next gen. Watchdogs at 720p 60fps is best case scenario now.
I think its becoming increasingly clear that gaming will be secondary to Media/services/apps for nextbox. I'm not really convinced that MS even care about gaming anymore to be honest. The 3GB of GDDR5 available for games in Orbis is significantly better than the 5GB of DDR memory in Orbis. It also looks as though there will only be 6 jaguar cores @ 1.6 GHz available for gaming in Durango, very disappointed.
I think its becoming increasingly clear that gaming will be secondary to Media/services/apps for nextbox. I'm not really convinced that MS even care about gaming anymore to be honest. The 3GB of GDDR5 available for games in Orbis is significantly better than the 5GB of DDR memory in Orbis. It also looks as though there will only be 6 jaguar cores @ 1.6 GHz available for gaming in Durango, very disappointed.
? Have you been to the RAM thread?
Are they just copy pasting stuff from here?
Can Crusher
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Their "insider" is misterx. Misterx has a tendency of being a fanboy's wet dream. We'll wait for some other sources to confirm whether he is right or wrong with his contradicting and inconsistent leaks.
The story from nowgamer sounds pretty made-up with some rumors from a while ago.
While raw computing power advantage is believable, by one or the other machne.
developing games for the consoles is totally different from developing for the PC. You can't just look at the raw specs. There's shit going on that will allow for better looking games than you'd expect from a PC with those specs.
shinobi602
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I'm sure it doesn't take GAF to figure that out...lol
It's been discussed in several topics here (this being one of them) and on B3D.
phosphor112
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PLEASE STOP USING NOWGAMER AS THE SOURCE AND REMOVE IT FROM THE OP.
LOOK AT THIS QUOTE ALL CAPS
Seriously!? Jesus Christ, just stop citing that fucking article!
phosphor112
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3gigs for PS4 would be fine if it really is GDDR5.
We know it's either GCN to GCN or GCN to GCN2. We know the shader ALU config is likely unchanged between the refresh in the latter case. It's much more easily comparable than nVidia 2005 vs Xenos 2005, but that then even didn't stop people comparing them at the time (around 200gflops each iirc). Of course when we know if there's a difference in shader architecture, if one is using GCN2, we'll be able to look at what's been tweaked and make appropriate qualifications when comparing. But something tells me there'll need to be far fewer qualifications than when we were comparing the compute resources of any previous console GPUs. They'll be the most directly comparable we've ever had on that front even if one is using a refresh of GCN.
It's usually wise to ignore bullshit.
JimmyRustler
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Yeah, the vibe really seems to go that way. And if MS really give more focus on multimedia I think they'll horribly fail. Would be pretty neat for Nintendo and Sony though.
Deadly Joker
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My Body Is Ready.
throwawayname
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pnn fact:
PS4^3*sin(45)/pi > (Xbox 720-tan(90))*360
PS4^3*sin(45)/pi > (Xbox 720-tan(90))*360
shinobi602
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In any case, I seriously doubt Microsoft will let Sony have such a huge power advantage over their console...just no way.
Nope. Not with them working closely with Crytek.
shinra-bansho
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VG247's sounds plausible. NowGamer's is so far removed from reality it's laughable.
and why exactly vg247's article should we take it seriously?
Especially on the multiplat front. That along with better tools they aim for having the best console version.
Bizarre, the 4150 is nowhere close to the i7 even if Crytek optimised the game for multiple threads.
Because they took all the info from gaf, lol.
The VG247 guy says he has multiple sources for everything.
https://twitter.com/patlike/status/291911484261416961
If what we are hearing about Durango is true, there will have some fixed function blocks to mitigate that difference.
Seriously, WTF?
One being GAF for arithmetic purposes heh.
VG247 is repeating an old rumour. NowGamer is starting a new rumour.
Vg247 don't have a good record for this sort of thing.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Not buying a console because an article states Durango > Orbis, when another article is stating the opposite? Okay. I guess you've already seen the games released by first party...
This is the last time I'm going to say this. STOP LOOKING AT RAW FLOPS. The systems are pretty equal -_-.
GarthVaderUK
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Well it can't be because of their track record, that's for sure. Both articles are probably sensationalist bollocks, with perhaps some half-truths mixed in.
Gemüsepizza
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For quite some time there were rumors that the PS4 only has 2 GB GDDR5 RAM. Maybe MS thought 5 GB DDR3 for games would be enough because of this. If they really "only" have 5 GB for games, wouldn't this also mean that the low bandwidth isn't that problematic?
People have already told you why those TFLOPS numbers can most likely be compared pretty good.
Both parties had planned things long ago, and probably made minor adjustments to specifications along the way. They have a 'big picture' of what they want to do and build systems to be able to achieve their goals. It's not like they're constantly looking at each other's development cycle and tacking on hardware all the time to try and one up each other.