excelsiorlef
Member
Meh in the end who cares, anyone paying attention knows why and I'm sure they will mention it. I mean they made sure to mention it at a house show
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October Wrasslin' |OT| I'm seein' double here...
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Meh in the end who cares, anyone paying attention knows why and I'm sure they will mention it. I mean they made sure to mention it at a house show
reptilescorpio
Member
Hope Bluekaveli is doing well
Wendel Clark
Member
Ratings and attendance are plummeting at an exponential rate but everything's fine!
I edited my last post
I edited my last post
excelsiorlef
Member
What's that have to do with what they're doing at TLC?
Do you think not delivering something special would have been good for business?
Wendel Clark
Member
Yes.
I hope to catch danielson's return at the next 205 live if I see their tweet 2 minutes before the show airs.
(I keep editing too late btw)
excelsiorlef
Member
I like that this is basically you calling me an idiot.
serenewarfare
Banned
I am happy we are getting AJ and Finn with no build. WWE's version of a build for that would have inevitably made it worse.
All in all I'm happy WWE is responding to all this by going all-in as opposed to throwing in the towel.
All in all I'm happy WWE is responding to all this by going all-in as opposed to throwing in the towel.
excelsiorlef
Member
So Kurt Angle returning at TLC in lieu of The Shield Reunion is the same thing as Daniel Bryan returning on 205 Live?
I do appreciate that you think good business is setting up a big deal and then when it becomes not possibly to deliver it just giving up and going oh well instead of trying to deliver something of equal value...
Another reason this is good business is because if something big is set up in the future fans can know if some horrific thing happens they'll still be given something good. That's good precedent.
Btw it's kinda sad with all the great wrestling in the world that you derive fun from hate following WWE and laughing at people who do enjoy the product on some level ...
Actually let me rephrase hate watching is fine on some level because so bad it's good is a form of entertainment, but deriving joy from laughing at people who do just enjoy the product is pretty shitty.
serenewarfare
Banned
Just chiming in to say I think it's kind of weird to argue so strongly about what would work for business and what wouldn't when you admit yourself that you are barely paying attention to the product.
It's like when people tell me that Bobby Lashley is great in TNA. I could say "wow, pushing Bobby Lashley? what a dumb idea!" But in not watching the show there's a ton of context I'm missing so I wouldn't assume to know whether it's a good idea or not.
I dont get it. I think everything WWE has done in 2017 has been pretty shit, but they're putting on a single match I'm excited for finally, so you never want me to criticise the bad things they do again and I'm also a defender of WWE. Are you high?
SallyIsNow
Banned
He sounds livid tho
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
All you need baby. That was pretty good.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
TheChuggernaut
Banned
Before, the only thing I gave a shit about was The Shield reunion. Now, I'm weirdly curious about Angle, and I'm really fucking stoked for Styles vs Balor. Given the issues, I'm very pleased about this. Hopefully everyone gets better soon.
serenewarfare
Banned
Riddle is out of NJPW World Tag League, per Meltzer.
Cobb is still on. Partner TBA.
Cobb is still on. Partner TBA.
They will Too Sweet before the match or after the match and the place will erupt
And AJ really needs a haircut
excelsiorlef
Member
Lame
I was looking forward to that.
Did he pull out because he accidentally double book himself for an entire month?
PHOENIXZERO
Member
All I hope for is some involvement with The Club.
What the fuck did you do Matt.
excelsiorlef
Member
Sorry Bro forgot I booked another tag tournament that month.
FlammableD
Banned
god dammit
he's still wrestling suzuki right?
he's still wrestling suzuki right?
British Monsoon
Member
I'm gonna guess they had some work visa trouble that wouldn't have been sorted before the league starts - or they're high enough on Riddle that they want to introduce him as a singles guy next year.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Better than her previous one. Which was totally awful.
FlammableD
Banned
I don't know why I'm surprised there are Tamina stans
like
what makes you decide you're going to be a tamina superfan
like
what makes you decide you're going to be a tamina superfan
Marvel
could never
Not a fan of hers at all, but that theme is 100% better.
excelsiorlef
Member
Don't call Owens fat on Twitter
Also Sami is having fun
Also Sami is having fun
Dangerblade
Member
Lapsed Badd Blood outta nowhere
TarpitCarnivore
Member
And there it is.
You're focusing on single matchups but in the past 2-3 months we had solid builds/work for Braun & Joe, watched The Bar evolve into something really good, Miz just killing it overall, Uso/New Day putting out some stellar matches, a good turn (so far) from Sami.
excelsiorlef
Member
Bray and Reigns have a viral infection possibly mumps or meningitis so they're out... and the WWE knowing they promised something special with The Shield reunion and knowing that they can't deliver that are giving us something that is different but also special to make up for it.
everybody gets mumps 2 days out from a ppv from now on
why does this fucking show only do interesting things when people either quit or get sick/injured.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Their bad plans getting ruined is the only way they can come up with good plans anymore
i mean, we'll see. it could be. but they could also really go for it and really tear the house down.
that's why it's exciting.
excelsiorlef
Member
The Shield reunion was not a bad plan.
Now Balor/Bray that was a bad plan.
Reports are they are expected to get lots of time.
i think i've just basically realised vince's process
amass a whole load of talented people and potentially great storylines just waiting to happen
then do whatever shit he comes up with that week because 'i'm a genius, damnit. i know what i'm doing'
and then whenever he can't do his great plan, because of circumstances beyond his control, pull the trigger on any given one of those great things he just leaves in his lockbox
that's the way it works. that's why it sucks. he knows what is good, and he wants to hoard it away just in case, so he can use his shitty spur of the moment ideas that go nowhere, with the consolation of having a back up plan.
at some point it's gonna be 'what? big cass is injured? oh fuck it, just make it cm punk vs daniel bryan for the title, that can main event hell in a cell 2019. who gives a shit, everything's ruined.'
amass a whole load of talented people and potentially great storylines just waiting to happen
then do whatever shit he comes up with that week because 'i'm a genius, damnit. i know what i'm doing'
and then whenever he can't do his great plan, because of circumstances beyond his control, pull the trigger on any given one of those great things he just leaves in his lockbox
that's the way it works. that's why it sucks. he knows what is good, and he wants to hoard it away just in case, so he can use his shitty spur of the moment ideas that go nowhere, with the consolation of having a back up plan.
at some point it's gonna be 'what? big cass is injured? oh fuck it, just make it cm punk vs daniel bryan for the title, that can main event hell in a cell 2019. who gives a shit, everything's ruined.'
I saw Alvarez said they were but you know I can't believe him.
Please be good...I trust AJ but don't fuck this up Finn.
Carnby
Member
Agreed.
Replacing Roman with Jason Jordan would have been as lame as Savio Vega replacing Shawn Michaels at No Way Out 98.
excelsiorlef
Member
It's too bad if someone had to drop out it wasn't someone other than Reigns though because then you could out over Miz's Supergroup, have them win, and tell the story that the Shield is strongest with all 3 and only with all 3.
You can still do that here but the problem is people will read that as WWE as pushing Reigns, as saying the Shield couldn't win without Reigns, when the story should be The Shield needs all their guys, that any one of them dropping out makes them less powerful.
Oh well.
You can still do that here but the problem is people will read that as WWE as pushing Reigns, as saying the Shield couldn't win without Reigns, when the story should be The Shield needs all their guys, that any one of them dropping out makes them less powerful.
Oh well.
Marvel
could never
You don't have to worry about, Finn.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
For WWE fans it will always be a loose/loose
British Monsoon
Member
So....Yoshitatsu
tapped out Zeus and is challenging for the Triple Crown. Uncle Jun, just what are you smoking?