Someone said the back of the damage deck has a slightly different design like the pilot cards. So if you swapped them out, it would be very obvious.
Also I'm calling it now, the new TIE Swarm should be named Black TIE Dinner.
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Someone said the back of the damage deck has a slightly different design like the pilot cards. So if you swapped them out, it would be very obvious.
Also I'm calling it now, the new TIE Swarm should be named Black TIE Dinner.
The photo of the back of the box shows that there are still 33 damage cards, so I imagine they're keeping the same ratio of direct hits.
jstevenson
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Yeah. I don't mean actually swap them. Assuming the new damage deck is the only legal one, you could mark out the removed cards and add text from new ones to represent. Or better, use sleeves and insert cut outs of paper that have the updated text for cards.
Assuming this will mainly be an issue for people's second damage deck
Those look so awesome! Im just getting into the game and bought the imperial aces expansion. I was going to go out and buy the core set today, but if compatible which it appears like it might be... was there any ETA on this Ep.7 set? Leaked or official?
We'll know everything September 4th (that's the embargo for all Star Wars merchandise) but by all accounts it should be available early Sept./right after the reveal.
Pilots from the new core set.
Poe: When attacking or defending, if you have a focus token, you may change 1 of your [eye] results to a [hit] or [evade] result.
Blue Ace was already known (turn template on boost).
Omega Ace: When Attacking, you may spend a focus token and a target lock you have on the defender to change all of your results to [crit] results. (!!!)
Epsilon Leader: At the start of the combat phase, remove 1 stress token from each friendly ship at range 1.
Zeta Ace: When performing a barrel roll, you may use the [straight 2] template instead of the [straight 1] template.
Also, confirmation for the 3 shields on the T-70, and the Target Lock and a Shield (!) for the TIE/fo for 3 extra points.
Interesting enough, both ships use the new ¿droid? or whatever it is.
Poe: When attacking or defending, if you have a focus token, you may change 1 of your [eye] results to a [hit] or [evade] result.
Blue Ace was already known (turn template on boost).
Omega Ace: When Attacking, you may spend a focus token and a target lock you have on the defender to change all of your results to [crit] results. (!!!)
Epsilon Leader: At the start of the combat phase, remove 1 stress token from each friendly ship at range 1.
Zeta Ace: When performing a barrel roll, you may use the [straight 2] template instead of the [straight 1] template.
Also, confirmation for the 3 shields on the T-70, and the Target Lock and a Shield (!) for the TIE/fo for 3 extra points.
Interesting enough, both ships use the new ¿droid? or whatever it is.
I wonder if shielded TIE/fo are canon and not just a gameplay upgrade. If so, that's one way to show the advancement of tech; it eventually gets cheap enough to slap (weak) shields on TIEs while still maintain the "quantity over quality" doctrine.
Maybe the "¿droid?" slot is like an Advance Modification, used to showcase the advance tech used for ships from the new trilogy compared to the OT ships.
Maybe the "¿droid?" slot is like an Advance Modification, used to showcase the advance tech used for ships from the new trilogy compared to the OT ships.
One Foul Note
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Love epsilon leader, if you can take these pilots back into the original game then I can think of a hell of a lot of uses for him.
They would be stupid not to make this game compatible. All the years releasing waves for them to scrap it all and start over because of a new trilogy will hurt sales, their reputation and their fanbase.
I'd buy a starter set and probably stop there. I've put so much money into that damn company.
In regards to the cards, epsilon leader and Howlrunner are going to be best friends, I can just feel it.
Also, Poe Dameron and R5-P9 are going to be one hell of a combination.
I'd buy a starter set and probably stop there. I've put so much money into that damn company.
In regards to the cards, epsilon leader and Howlrunner are going to be best friends, I can just feel it.
Also, Poe Dameron and R5-P9 are going to be one hell of a combination.
MisterAnderson
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Epsilon Leader seems a little insane IMO. I mean...TIE swarms will be able to K-Turn consecutively as long as Epsilon Leader is alive. Pretty crazy stuff. Then again, TIE swarms have been out of the meta for a while now so it might be just what it needs.
you can max out a black Tie Swarm at 6, 5 zetas and Epsilon leader.
This translates directly to, you can buy 3 starter sets to do this.
One Foul Note
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It would be interesting to see if First Order swarms become a thing. Normal Tie Fighters are so devastated by well placed crits that I can imagine that a ship that is basically the same but with an extra shield might really shine.
One Foul Note
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Gonna stick my prediction neck out here, but I think that these are two new factions and won't be cross compatible with existing Rebel/Imperial armies.
MisterAnderson
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I don't think it's very likely and hope that this is not the case, but I guess anything is possible.
MisterAnderson
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Double posting, but looks like the new Core Set was leaked early by Target:
https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3i9xif/force_awakens_cards/
Looks like the Resistance and First Order are just parts of the Rebels and Imperial factions after all. New Critical damage cards and upgrade cards are spoiled.
Now X-Wings and Y-Wings will be able to barrel roll with that new astromech! And HOLY SHIT at the new Tallon Roll maneuver!
https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3i9xif/force_awakens_cards/
Looks like the Resistance and First Order are just parts of the Rebels and Imperial factions after all. New Critical damage cards and upgrade cards are spoiled.
Now X-Wings and Y-Wings will be able to barrel roll with that new astromech! And HOLY SHIT at the new Tallon Roll maneuver!
whaaaaaaaaaaaa
I love the new roll! Glad it's not all separate factions. Crazy upgrades, and the new Tech slot seems really cool.
Gah I hope the other rumored two products are leaked soon. I know they're likely the X-Wing/TIEs from the core set but the new upgrades/pilot cards are gonna be awesome.
Wired looks like it will take a lot of the fear out of being stressed for just one point. Could probably be used for lots of other shenanigans too. Like slapping it on Farlander if you know you're going to be jousting against higher pilot skill ships. Get stressed, used Wired as extra insurance when being attacked then cashing in the stress token when your turn to attack comes up.
wookieofdoom
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Called it. New TIE F/O have a 2 S-Loop. Sweet.
One Foul Note
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We have a hard set date for the 2nd starter pack? I am attending a tournament on the 5th and wondering if it is gonna be legal. Be slightly hilarious running in there with ships that no one has any experience with dealing with.
Force Friday is the 4th of September, it is the day in which all the Force Awakens merch gets revealed and some even gets released. The fact that this guy bought a new core set from a Target who broke street date implies that these stores already have the stock, but they can't sell it yet. There's no point giving these stores the stock for something they cant sell months in advance, if that were the case, it would just stay in the warehouses.
This stock is ready to sell, a week before Force Friday, I'm telling you, this is happening next week and I am extremely hype.
This stock is ready to sell, a week before Force Friday, I'm telling you, this is happening next week and I am extremely hype.
MisterAnderson
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Now I have to decide if I'm going to get one or two -_-
I imagine retailers are going to sell out immediately. I'm going to try to get it from Miniature Market or something like that since they tend to be cheaper.
Tallon Roll looks cool. The new Tech upgrade is a nice way to distinguish newer, more advanced ships.
The whole subfaction idea will give an opportunity for some interesting nuances. Like having Resistance-only upgrades that the other Rebel ships can't take ... same with First Order-only upgrades that other Imperial ships can't take.
As for the new EPT, Wired, just think of how good it'll be on Tycho with Push the Limit =) Probably better than Predator, and 2 points cheaper!
We probably haven't seen the individual T-70 X-Wing and TIE/FO Fighter expansion packs leaked because Target doesn't usually sell those ... and independently owned game stores are probably better about holding to release dates (or haven't gotten their shipments in yet).
The Tournament Rules say that once a product is on the market, it's legal for tournament play =P
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The whole subfaction idea will give an opportunity for some interesting nuances. Like having Resistance-only upgrades that the other Rebel ships can't take ... same with First Order-only upgrades that other Imperial ships can't take.
As for the new EPT, Wired, just think of how good it'll be on Tycho with Push the Limit =) Probably better than Predator, and 2 points cheaper!
We probably haven't seen the individual T-70 X-Wing and TIE/FO Fighter expansion packs leaked because Target doesn't usually sell those ... and independently owned game stores are probably better about holding to release dates (or haven't gotten their shipments in yet).
The Tournament Rules say that once a product is on the market, it's legal for tournament play =P
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Fuck FFG with the new damage deck. Yeah, it was needed, but I don't like at all to be forced to buy something I don't want. It's "only" 40€, but right now I have no interest on the rest of the Core. And if the deck is required for tournaments (which would makes sense, as it's an update), the resellers out there won't be selling it for cheap like the original deck, that's for sure.
The T-70 is freaking good. Shame I don't play with Rebels. It actually makes the Defender cry.
The T-70 is freaking good. Shame I don't play with Rebels. It actually makes the Defender cry.
oh man the look on your opponents face as you run a Poe Dameron build and throw T-Rolls all over the place will be priceless.
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The rules say that if you have it, you have to use it, but doesnt say that you need it if you don't have it. I imagine not everyone will want the new core set and they'll probably reprint the original with the new deck if needed.
We'll see.
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The rules say that if you have it, you have to use it, but doesnt say that you need it if you don't have it. I imagine not everyone will want the new core set and they'll probably reprint the original with the new deck if needed.
We'll see.
Yep, I've just seen the comment on Reddit about this. Seems a nice touch by FFG, but ironically I think it favors those who don't buy the new Core, as not all the cards on the old deck *will* mess with any of your ships one way or another.
One Foul Note
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Elusiveness and Wired on Awings might be interesting to see. Make them a real pain in the ass to deal with.
I dunno, I love it. I wish Armada was in this much full swing.
I think the general feeling of the game surpassing people comes from the fact that this time last year, we had the dock strike causing a 6 month delay on waves 5 & 6 along with Rebel Aces, so it felt like each wave had ages between.
However, the original plan was always to be a steady flow of content like their card games and now the dock strike is over, we're getting it in full swing and are being bombarded with content. I personally love it, but I can see why it would become somewhat overwhelming.
However, the original plan was always to be a steady flow of content like their card games and now the dock strike is over, we're getting it in full swing and are being bombarded with content. I personally love it, but I can see why it would become somewhat overwhelming.
The frequency of releases is getting a little crazy from a financial standpoint. It was like this for most of last year into early this year, too. Look at the game's releases in this way, if you buy one of each SKU at MSRP:
Sept. 2012 to Sept. 2013 (12 months): $273
Sept. 2013 to March 2014 (6 months): nothing
March 2014 to Feb. 2015 (11 months): $525
Feb. 2015 to Aug. 2015 (6 months): nothing
Aug. 2015 to Feb. 2016 (6 months): $420
That's assuming we don't get two more $15 expansion packs to take up those two unreleased SKUs but we likely will, making that Aug. 2015 to Feb. 2016 number go up to $450.
(Here's a breakdown of each release by month with MSRP, for the curious)
Oh, BTW, the Gozanti Assault Carrier went from "in development" to "at the printer" yesterday, according to FFG's Upcoming page, making it look more likely that it'll be out before the end of the year:
Sept. 2012 to Sept. 2013 (12 months): $273
Sept. 2013 to March 2014 (6 months): nothing
March 2014 to Feb. 2015 (11 months): $525
Feb. 2015 to Aug. 2015 (6 months): nothing
Aug. 2015 to Feb. 2016 (6 months): $420
That's assuming we don't get two more $15 expansion packs to take up those two unreleased SKUs but we likely will, making that Aug. 2015 to Feb. 2016 number go up to $450.
(Here's a breakdown of each release by month with MSRP, for the curious)
Code:
Sept. 2012: Core Set, Wave 1 $100
Oct. 2012: Dice Pack $8
Feb. 2013: Wave 2 $90
Sept. 2013: Wave 3 $75
March 2014: Imperial Aces $30
April 2014: Rebel Transport $60
May 2014: Tantive IV $90
June 2014: Wave 4 $60
Sept. 2014: Rebel Aces $30
Nov. 2014: Wave 5 $70
Feb. 2015: Playmats, Wave 6 $185
Aug. 2015: Imperial Raider, Wave 7 $195
Sept. 2015: Core Set 2.0 $40
Dec. 2015?: Assault Carrier $70
Feb. 2016?: Wave 8 $115Oh, BTW, the Gozanti Assault Carrier went from "in development" to "at the printer" yesterday, according to FFG's Upcoming page, making it look more likely that it'll be out before the end of the year:
Sure, X-Wing isn't nearly as bad as 40k or other miniatures games.
My main point, though, wasn't that X-Wing is pricey, but rather that it's pricey in spurts. We'll go half a year with nothing new to buy, then have hundreds of dollars worth of releases in sequential months. I think it would be better if it were more regular. I'm sure FFG would agree and is doing their best, though.
My main point, though, wasn't that X-Wing is pricey, but rather that it's pricey in spurts. We'll go half a year with nothing new to buy, then have hundreds of dollars worth of releases in sequential months. I think it would be better if it were more regular. I'm sure FFG would agree and is doing their best, though.
I don't play Armada, but I know some of you guys do ... FFG just announced Kessel Run-like preview tournaments for Armada's Wave 2: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/8/25/the-massing-at-sullust/
They'll be called "Massing at Sullust" and they'll be Oct. 2 through 4. Looks like top four gets his choice (in the order that you finished) among the five ships coming out for Wave 2. Tournament organizer gets the unclaimed fifth ship.
They'll be called "Massing at Sullust" and they'll be Oct. 2 through 4. Looks like top four gets his choice (in the order that you finished) among the five ships coming out for Wave 2. Tournament organizer gets the unclaimed fifth ship.
MisterAnderson
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I'm going to have so many damn TIEs after the 2 new cores and that Assault Carrier...fuck.
MisterAnderson
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LMAO. Perfect haha.
I failed to also consider the inevitable TIE/FO expansion set...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Too many things!
well given that Hasbro release their Force Awakens toy catalogue recently...
There'll be one for this too:
Special Forces First Order Tie Fighter
which, recent toy previews have revealed, has a rear gun, underside turret and a gunner seat. But I imagine it'll just have a rear firing arc and no crew, similar to the Y-Wing which is a 2 seater, the turret counted as the gunner.
And possibly one for this:
Poe Dameron's X-Wing
They're keeping details about this X-Wing quiet. So no idea what extras come with this.
MisterAnderson
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Miniature Market shipped my Wave 7 preorder!!
Available now: http://www.miniaturemarket.com/
Sometime soon I'll try to find time to update the OP with the new wave.
Available now: http://www.miniaturemarket.com/
Sometime soon I'll try to find time to update the OP with the new wave.
MisterAnderson
Member
Yeah it would have been awesome if somehow I was able to get them for the weekend, but estimated delivery is Weds next week.
argh
brb taking out a loan to pay for x-wing
BRB, FFG's Upcoming page now says that Wave 7 ships are "in stores," so the "it's in stores!" article should be posted later today.
brb taking out a loan to pay for x-wing
BRB, FFG's Upcoming page now says that Wave 7 ships are "in stores," so the "it's in stores!" article should be posted later today.
So my nan just text me a few minutes ago:
"Parcel has arrived for you x"
I use my nans place for large parcels as she's always in and willing to keep hold of them until I get home.
There's only 1 parcel I've got sent to hers recently, and it's Wave 7.
X-WING CHRISTMAS HAS BEGUN
"Parcel has arrived for you x"
I use my nans place for large parcels as she's always in and willing to keep hold of them until I get home.
There's only 1 parcel I've got sent to hers recently, and it's Wave 7.
X-WING CHRISTMAS HAS BEGUN
One Foul Note
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God damn, wait is killing me. I need my Space Dustbuster 3000 AKA Hounds Tooth. Local shop says the delivery will likely be by Tuesday but the Monday is a bank holiday so delivery times for next week are a little unpredictable.