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Kadey · Jul 12, 2017

I can put up the thread now since there is pre-EVO stuff today and toimorrow. Going up in a few.

Up. Post away. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=243232110#post243232110

Smooth Operator · Jul 12, 2017

Dahbomb said:
Tuboware said that Tokido has been putting in work in Marvel 3 and wants to win the last ever Marvel 3 EVO tournament.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also the amounts of shouts fired in that Marvel 3 pre-EVO show was hilarious. Suddenly I am all hyped up for Marvel 3 at EVO again!

Tuboware was probably high because Tokido only registered in SFV. He probably wants to win as a spectator

Spuck-uk · Jul 12, 2017

chriskun said:
Tekken 7 nor any 3d fighter doesnt play well to casuals. To them it just looks like alot of flailing around and the characters look too samey. I think Dead or Alive has animations and pace that would stick out to a casual but it lacks the respect of most hardcore fgc fans.

I've found 'not fighting game' people war more willing to play tekken, because the controls make hella more sense.

All the women in DoA have sameface and the game is bad.

Quebaz · Jul 12, 2017

FadedRevolution said:
I would love to be able to play this online. I mean I know PCSX2 has online but idk if the online is good enough for this game also finding a group of people that will play this could be hard.

It's mostly a bitch to setup too, if you don't have a save you gotta grind arcade/survival for a bit to get the extra characters amd stage and THEN you cam start worrying about costumizing everyone.

ArjanN · Jul 12, 2017

From the Arcana Heart Six Stars kickstarter thread:

Tu101uk said:
So just to update, the stretch goals have been revealed and, as predicted, new characters (like an adorable shark girl and an edgy anti-Heart character), a new final boss (OMEGA), new Arcana (including our favourite final boss Parace :V) and game balancing too!

Kickstarter link:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-max-six-stars-2d-fighting-game/posts/1935080

Update video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xh29MwCc6A

BadWolf · Jul 12, 2017

Smooth Operator said:
Tuboware was probably high because Tokido only registered in SFV. He probably wants to win as a spectator

I miss the days when Tokido would register for most games and place really high in all :/

sixteen-bit · Jul 12, 2017

BadWolf said:
I miss the days when Tokido would register for most games and place really high in all :/

I'm sure Tokido misses those days too

miku · Jul 12, 2017

BadWolf said:
I miss the days when Tokido would register for most games and place really high in all :/

still wondering why he isnt playing kof14

i remember him saying kof13 was his favorite fighting game of all time

Line_HTX · Jul 12, 2017

All those top players need to play less of SFV.

Tripon · Jul 12, 2017

There's no money in KOF. That's why. Tokido's made this a job, and so he's focusing on the one game he thinks will make him money. You want him to return, then you need the other games tournament leagues to offer bigger prizes that will entice him and other multiple games players.

Smooth Operator · Jul 12, 2017

BadWolf said:
I miss the days when Tokido would register for most games and place really high in all :/

Amen :/

sixteen-bit · Jul 12, 2017

Tripon said:
There's no money in KOF. That's why. Tokido's made this a job, and so he's focusing on the one game he thinks will make him money. You want him to return, then you need the other games tournament leagues to offer bigger prizes that will entice him and other multiple games players.

If money's the reason, why not hop on that NRS train?

LucidMomentum · Jul 12, 2017

Honestly I'm glad PPT is Swap mode now.

So many people aren't ready for the Puyo :3

BadWolf · Jul 12, 2017

sixteen-bit said:
If money's the reason, why not hop on that NRS train?

Pot sizes:

There is definitely money to be made outside of SF.

mnz · Jul 12, 2017

Interesting, SNK/Atlus added 14k to the kof pot just yesterday. Would've been dead last otherwise.

And it happened long after you could register. Xiaohai is happy: https://twitter.com/Xiaohai_/status/884659743070892032

BadWolf · Jul 12, 2017

mnz said:
Interesting, SNK/Atlus added 14k to the kof pot just yesterday. Would've been dead last otherwise.

The same applies to other games. Remove the $10K pot bonus from Blazblu and it becomes $4K. Same goes for GG, which would be at just $8K without the dev pot bonus.

Line_HTX · Jul 12, 2017

Holy shit, how much did NRS put in?

Tripon · Jul 12, 2017

NRS usually puts in $50K for Evo.

Holy Order Sol · Jul 12, 2017

Tripon said:
There's no money in KOF. That's why. Tokido's made this a job, and so he's focusing on the one game he thinks will make him money. You want him to return, then you need the other games tournament leagues to offer bigger prizes that will entice him and other multiple games players.

or everything needs to come crashing down

can't pick your game based on pot sizes if there isn't any money anywhere

mnz · Jul 12, 2017

That would be a crazy turn of events since we're living in one of the best fighting game eras ever. Think about how many games with active support we have right now. It's ridiculous.

Worst thing that could happen would be if Capcom doesn't continue the CPT, but with a new game coming out and SFV still getting support, I don't see that happen anytime soon. It's also one of the few things Capcom does really well.

S2 · Jul 12, 2017

Kumubou said:
Doesn't Puyo have some kind of garbage multiplier that kicks in after so much time? I'm actually not sure how that would work in Swap or Doubles, but I was under the impression that it was only a massive problem in Tetris mirrors, which is one of the reasons Versus got dumped.

We did also schedule out a lot of time for the Puyo Puyo Tetris tournament, and there's a reason why the stream schedule is laid out the way it is with regards to Puyo Puyo Tetris and P4AU.

There's a garbage multiplier that kicks in after 96 seconds in Puyo or ~8 swaps in Swap mode.

From my experience with sixfortyfive at local GA tourneys, low-level swap mode takes about... 3 to 5 minutes at minimum for just one round.

AAK · Jul 12, 2017

mnz said:
I don't see that happen anytime soon. It's also one of the few things Capcom does really well.

It probably can. Sony just has to pull its sponsorship and no more CPT $500K.

mnz · Jul 12, 2017

AAK said:
It probably can. Sony just has to pull its sponsorship and no more CPT $500K.

Nah, not even then. They might actually make money with the CPT by now, so they could trim some fat with fewer tournaments and have a more focused tour without hurting the overall thing. Heard some players actually want that, too, since it's all blending together too much with certain weekends having several events going on at the same time.

Gunslinger · Jul 12, 2017

What are the chances of our washed up heroes winning Evo? 0 to none?

sixteen-bit · Jul 12, 2017

Gunslinger said:
What are the chances of our washed up heroes winning Evo? 0 to none?

They've been sandbagging all year for Evo. Now is their moment.

Line_HTX · Jul 12, 2017

Incoming spam of FRAUD! emotes.

LucidMomentum · Jul 12, 2017

Line_HTX said:
Incoming spam of FRAUD! emotes.

Fuck I still need to sub this year for the emotes.

Gunslinger · Jul 12, 2017

Can daigo even make it out of his pool ? I have my doubts. Ma man is too washed up.

mnz · Jul 12, 2017

Daigo will win Evo through selling signed copies of his book.

BadWolf · Jul 12, 2017

Gunslinger said:
Can daigo even make it out of his pool ? I have my doubts. Ma man is too washed up.

Remember that one year he got 200th+ place at Evo when he first started using E. Ryu?

At this point I'd be happy if he did that well.

Gunslinger · Jul 12, 2017

mnz said:
Daigo will win Evo through selling signed copies of his book.

BadWolf said:
Remember that one year he got 200th+ place at Evo when he first started using E. Ryu?

At this point I'd be happy if he did that well.

Tough for daigo fans like us to see our hero getting destoryed like that. It's like watching Michael Jordan's come back for the Washington Wizards. I remember watching him play for Washington he was like a shadow of his former self. Ma boy daigo is the same now

. Retire with some dignity.....

Sayad · Jul 12, 2017

This "add pot bonus money after registration closes" trend with Japanese devs kinda misses the point, it should be an incentive for more people to show up, it's not a contest of which game had a bigger pot bonus!

Tripon said:
There's no money in KOF. That's why. Tokido's made this a job, and so he's focusing on the one game he thinks will make him money. You want him to return, then you need the other games tournament leagues to offer bigger prizes that will entice him and other multiple games players.

When Tokido made this his job there was no money in any fighting game outside being sponsored, and when he played KoFXIII there was less money there than there is now, way less!

Professor Beef · Jul 12, 2017

Marvel 3 is kicking off Sunday finals. A fitting end tbh

Kadey · Jul 12, 2017

Only way for digo to ever win at evo is in a team tournament.

Sixfortyfive · Jul 12, 2017

Kumubou said:
Doesn't Puyo have some kind of garbage multiplier that kicks in after so much time? I'm actually not sure how that would work in Swap or Doubles, but I was under the impression that it was only a massive problem in Tetris mirrors, which is one of the reasons Versus got dumped.

The damage multiplier exists in every mode except straight TvT, but it still takes a while to kick-in for Swap mode since the two boards seem to have independent timers. (Standard Puyo matches go on for 96 seconds before margin time kicks in; Swap mode's timer appears to be roughly double that.) So you're still looking at ~3 minutes before scrub chains start to become threatening, whereas a normal fighting game would have already reached time-over in ~90 seconds for a multi-round game or ~180 seconds for a single-round game like Marvel or Injustice. It's still strictly better than just TvT, but the long timer and the possibility of using one of your two boards to tank garbage mean that matches can still drag on for a while at certain skill levels.

The best way to deal with it is to just make sure that seeding is as thorough as possible.

mnz · Jul 12, 2017

Daigo's not that bad. Got 5th at Thaiger Uppercut which was pretty stacked. His Guile is very good. Not breaking top 200 would be crazy.

Cosmo Clock 21 · Jul 12, 2017

Sixfortyfive said:
The damage multiplier exists in every mode except straight TvT, but it still takes a while to kick-in for Swap mode since the two boards seem to have independent timers. (Standard Puyo matches go on for 96 seconds before margin time kicks in; Swap mode's timer appears to be roughly double that.) So you're still looking at ~3 minutes before scrub chains start to become threatening, whereas a normal fighting game would have already reached time-over in ~90 seconds for a multi-round game or ~180 seconds for a single-round game like Marvel or Injustice. It's still strictly better than just TvT, but the long timer and the possibility of using one of your two boards to tank garbage mean that matches can still drag on for a while at certain skill levels.

The best way to deal with it is to just make sure that seeding is as thorough as possible.

Also I would hope that the level of competition at EVO is higher than backwater Florida or Georgia

chriskun · Jul 12, 2017

Spuck-uk said:
I've found 'not fighting game' people war more willing to play tekken, because the controls make hella more sense.

All the women in DoA have sameface and the game is bad.

I actually agree but im talking about spectating. A games playability does not correlate to its appeal to spectators as we've seen with Injustice and countless other games.

Immortal Technique · Jul 12, 2017

mnz said:
Daigo's not that bad. Got 5th at Thaiger Uppercut which was pretty stacked. His Guile is very good. Not breaking top 200 would be crazy.

Yeah, he even beat Bonchan at that event. Daigo could make a big run, it's possible! Would be so hype.

But.. we know what will really happen. eliminated offstream

CurlyW · Jul 12, 2017

Evo stream schedule

"The Jump Off" will be a Red Zone-like broadcast

Seyavesh · Jul 12, 2017

a stream dedicated to marvel

weird

also it should be the jump in imo

Sixfortyfive · Jul 12, 2017

Cosmo Clock 21 said:
Also I would hope that the level of competition at EVO is higher than backwater Florida or Georgia

ATL will take on any city, sir.

Dahbomb · Jul 12, 2017

Man I thought SFV semi finals would've concluded by Friday...

Saturday is WAY too action packed.

Sinatar · Jul 12, 2017

No Tekken on Saturday? Weak.

Line_HTX · Jul 12, 2017

And that does not account for all the AnimeEVO games as well.

Sixfortyfive · Jul 12, 2017

Dahbomb said:
Man I thought SFV semi finals would've concluded by Friday...

Saturday is WAY too action packed.

It's probably going to be the same problem as last year where literally everything is grinding down to the top cut at the same time on Saturday and not everything will be able to get its fair share of stream time.

They really ought to have put at least 2 finals on Friday to alleviate that, but Blazblue would have been the best fit and it was locked into Sunday (for some reason) anyway.

CurlyW · Jul 12, 2017

Not sure if Capcom would allow SFV to be broadcast on a stream that isn't CapcomFighters

kirblar · Jul 12, 2017

Sinatar said:
No Tekken on Saturday? Weak.

Gotta troll those job-having Tekken players!

Tripon · Jul 12, 2017

CurlyW said:
Not sure if Capcom would allow SFV to be broadcast on a stream that isn't CapcomFighters

Isn't there always a 2nd stream for street fighter at EVO?

shaowebb · Jul 12, 2017

ArjanN said:
From the Arcana Heart Six Stars kickstarter thread:

FINALLY. Paracelsia as an Arcana. Lol at the but ass naked final character. Apparently that was a character design idea since the folks involved worked on Samurai Showdown. Can't say I'm surprised. I know what the game is. Dont care. Its got arcanas and good movesets. Function fighter in a nutshell. Really interested in seeing what these Proposed Arcanas do and what any new cast do though. Shark Girl sounds straight up Skullgirls to me in theme and proposed morphing body animations. More pics for folks.

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