Dominic Snyder
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God, I feel bad for her after what's happened to her last two projects. (Not an Uncharted 4 insult, by the way.)
Annnnd heartbroken.
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EA shuts down Visceral, moves Star Wars game to EA Vancouver/others
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God, I feel bad for her after what's happened to her last two projects. (Not an Uncharted 4 insult, by the way.)
Annnnd heartbroken.
NullPointer
Member
I wouldn't be so sure. Bioware's name is trash right now after 3 polarizing games in a row (Mass Effect 3 and its ending, Dragon Age Inquisition's post Witcher 3 backlash and Mass Effect Andromeda)
Besides all that money and talent is irrelevant if executives put more trust in focus grouped oppinions then that of experienced creative people with a successful track record.
prag16
Banned
Yep this right here. Fuck focus groups.
nephilimdj
Member
Vague isnt it, visceral just made 4 3rd person games in a row (dead space 1,2,3 and dantes inferno), saying "EA" doesnt have expierence is pointless here.
Plus a lot of insiders blamed Steve for DS3, ofcourse comments after he left he studio wouldnt be so rosey
Didn't see this posted over the last few pages I think. Co-writer Todd Stashwick:
https://twitter.com/ToddStashwick/status/921025091252584448
Must be heartbreaking to see something you've devoted yourself to for years be torn away.
https://twitter.com/ToddStashwick/status/921025091252584448
Must be heartbreaking to see something you've devoted yourself to for years be torn away.
Didn't see this posted over the last few pages I think. Co-writer Todd Stashwick:
https://twitter.com/ToddStashwick/status/921025091252584448
Must be heartbreaking to see something you've devoted yourself to for years be torn away.
That's life for ya.
Didn't see this posted over the last few pages I think. Co-writer Todd Stashwick:
https://twitter.com/ToddStashwick/status/921025091252584448
Must be heartbreaking to see something you've devoted yourself to for years be torn away.
Is he talking about Uncharted 4 or Star Wars? Lmao.
So I was thinking about creating a Dead Space Community Thread, is that something you guys would be interested in? Seeing as the franchise is now dead, would love to have a place to talk about the series.
Not sure when it will come up though, need to figure out what to put in and make a decent banner.
Not sure when it will come up though, need to figure out what to put in and make a decent banner.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Henning must be crushed, life sucks sometimes.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Webcomic creators, youtubers, etc....should really stop trying to talk about the business side of the industry. It's such a complicated matter yet they act like manchildren when a pub does something they don't like. Seriously, we only saw literally 5 seconds of WIP footage.basically:
angry gamer rhetoric is the worst.
Just damn.
I'd probably take a long break from this industry after some shit like this. Imagine working on something passionately for 4 years and then be gutted like this.
Fuuuck that.
benicillin
Banned
I very rarely use the term "cringe" but man when webcomics do the angry gamer thing that's the only word that comes to mind.
Glass Rebel
Member
Cant everyone be as creative as the inventors of dickwolves.
This is what Id expect a 15-yo reddit user would write, just embarassing.
Also, PA:s art looks really weird and iffy now, what happened? Just look at the eyes in the second and third panel.
Just realized that we saw more footage from Star Wars 1313, than from Visceral's game. lol
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Wow, that is one pissed Tycho. Not surprised considering Amy was the featured speaker at one of the PAXs
His commentary on the strip fwiw
https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2017/10/20/second-opinion
https://twitter.com/zachulon/status/921390010955284480
Also, over on Waypoint Radio, Manveer Heir offers some pretty frank insights into his time at Bioware and the current state of EA.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...-ea-woes-with-former-mass-effect-manveer-heir
Also, over on Waypoint Radio, Manveer Heir offers some pretty frank insights into his time at Bioware and the current state of EA.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...-ea-woes-with-former-mass-effect-manveer-heir
SJRB
Gold Member
Speculation at this point. Just because they slapped a date on it, doesn't mean the game is anywhere near release-ready. Who knows in what state the game was in.
I mean, they could've pulled a Konami and release a half-finished game, but sometimes it is better to cut losses.
But Hardline yo.
Scofield94941
Member
gonna replay dead space 1-3. Loved ALLLLLL of them.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Its possible that they would have had to spend another 30 million dollars to finish it, and would have needed probably another 50-100 million to market it. So they looked at all the time, money, and resources it would have taken to finish the project, and came to the conclusion that those resources would be better off working on something else.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Yeah without being doom and gloom I think their days are numbered unless they can make the Destiny-like (that honestly looks like their most uninspired game in years) work.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It was suppose to release in 2019. EA probably looked at that extra year of cost and got scared.
kimifan141
Member
This is why i stopped supporting EA, they pulled the same stunt with red alert back then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_&_Conquer_(2013_video_game)
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on October 29, 2013, EA ceased development of Command & Conquer and shut down Victory Games, citing negative feedback over the economy-based experience as a reason.However, shortly after the cancellation announcement, an unidentified Victory Games staff member posted on the official forums, in the area reserved for players with access to the alpha builds, and stated that the reason for the game's cancellation was "corporate shenanigans" and not negative reception. The staff member also claimed that the official cancellation announcement was pre-written by higher-level staff at Electronic Arts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_&_Conquer_(2013_video_game)
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on October 29, 2013, EA ceased development of Command & Conquer and shut down Victory Games, citing negative feedback over the economy-based experience as a reason.However, shortly after the cancellation announcement, an unidentified Victory Games staff member posted on the official forums, in the area reserved for players with access to the alpha builds, and stated that the reason for the game's cancellation was "corporate shenanigans" and not negative reception. The staff member also claimed that the official cancellation announcement was pre-written by higher-level staff at Electronic Arts.
matrix-cat
Member
Anthem is already shaping up to be exactly the kind of infinite grind, Games as a Service Lootbox-'em-up that EA wants these days, so I think they're probably safe. Unless Anthem fails, of course, then they're gone.
Either way, I wouldn't expect a singleplayer RPG from them ever again, though.
SJRB
Gold Member
EA's handling of C&C is a whole different level of fuckery.
Impossible to feel anything but disgust for EA after all that.
That tweet from Zach...geez. Hope everybody lands on their feet.
You should see some other panels where their mouths are so wide that I'm reminded of those vampires from Blade Trinity.
I asked the same question before and one Gaffer pointed out the artist is a fan of Ren & Stimpy's creator and wanted to move towards that direction.
You should see some other panels where their mouths are so wide that I'm reminded of those vampires from Blade Trinity.
I asked the same question before and one Gaffer pointed out the artist is a fan of Ren & Stimpy's creator and wanted to move towards that direction.
Listening to this podcast now, very interesting so far, thanks for posting. He talks about the smashing succes the mp cards were in ME3. I didn't even remember those were there. He said they made a huge amount of money off that. Some people spent $15k+ on cards alone... Holy shit
Timestamp: 19 min mark
Oh spare me the sanctimony. PA have no clue what happened behind the scenes and whether the project was salvageable or not.
razgriz417
Member
Man if this is the direction EA wants to move toward, fuck their games
https://twitter.com/psdavies/status/921676653176160256
https://twitter.com/psdavies/status/921676653176160256
ArkhamFantasy
Member
If we have no clue of what actually happened, does that mean EA lied in their statement about why the game was cancelled?
A Serious Man
Member
It's a Star Wars battle royale shooter with MOBA elements now.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I'm guessing an open world RPG with lootboxes that you can co-op in. A Destiny competitor would probably sell better, but they already have Anthem for that.
Man if this is the direction EA wants to move toward, fuck their games
https://twitter.com/psdavies/status/921676653176160256
Don't many games have Daily activities? To call this a "progression ban" is kinda just meant to incite hysteria. As far as I can tell, you can still earn XP and crates after you've hit the cap on credits.
Adding a timer on this stuff is really not a good look though, they should have just made it a "once a day" thing.
It's funny how much this industry once chased after Uncharted.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
EA does alot of things that aren't a good look, They're being overly aggressive with their new business model and showing their hand.
I thought Pay to win loot crates would take years to implement, slowly normalizing them so people dont get pissed off because of a rapid change to their games. EA just came right out and put them in BF2 though, makes me wonder how long it will take for full blown F2P economies and progression systems in their premium games.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They did? I think you mean Gears of War.
R_thanatos
Member
I don't know .. if the project was in such a bad state , why annonce it ?
Why not show the game after you've set and established your foothold, after the core of the project was "safe" ?
If the project was not salvageable , then why all the assets moved to another studio ?
I know develloppement is complicated, with those huge projects , the number of variables is high to consider but isn't that weird ? the way history repeats ? The studio was NOT at their first projet , there was talented people in support , so when history repeats , i don't know i have a hard time believing that EA is a scapegoat and is in no way responsible for this mess.
No. Star Wars 1313 was officially pitched as Uncharted x Star Wars. That was what got it greenlit.
Nah, the jumping, climbing, platforming and uh "cinematic sensibilities" displayed in 1313 is very much more Uncharted than Gears of War. Then there's rather obvious stuff like the Tomb Raider reboot. The Amy Hennig game in question was always sold as a Star Wars Uncharted as well. And I always thought Visceral's Dead Space 2 also took a few queues from Uncharted by trying to incorporate more cinematic set-pieces.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I wouldn't say the industry at large was aiming for Uncharted. The only one I can think of is Tomb Raider. Everyone else was obsessed with cover shooters.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
To be fair if they really thought that the game wasnt good they could have ended up with another Andromeda situation. With that thought process might as well cut your losses and cancel it.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
True. So glad that's over.
Nah, at the time it was very specifically chasing Uncharted right down to having a cocky brunette white dude as the protagonist in that build. Pursuing the Uncharted fan base more and more is also what sorta killed Dead Space, and devs were really transparent about whether it was uncharted or gears they were aping:
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