I mean...yeah.
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Twitch vs Speedrun Community Drama (update: Twitch officially responds)
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I mean...yeah.
greatest thing ever
Gangxxter
Member
qft.
How the official representatives of Twitch are behaving (especially their Twitter account) is unacceptable.
Time to go over to Ustream now. X1 also supports Ustream, doesn't it?
Edit: And I can't believe they want to censor reddit! This is madness!
beastworship
Neo Member
gay furry, way to double up on protected groups, that guy ain't going nowhere unless twitch wants a hr nightmare so i guess these people will need to use another service or change their ip or some such.
theprodigy
Member
quick lets get Siglemic to speedrun this version
imagine him setting the record this way, lol
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Furries are a protected group? Where do I get my card?
equippedwithtowel
Member
Last I checked neither of those things are gonna survive a PR shitstorm.
BriareosGAF
Member
I read things like this and my brain is just "why are the goddamn kids so goddamn stupid these days?"
http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=10142003
Getting old, so old.
http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=10142003
Getting old, so old.
It's not even a matter of want anymore, they seem to be successfully pulling it off!
SteveWinwood
Member
shit, gay is a protected group?CHEEZMO;90669887 said:
in my state it's still legal to fire someone solely for their sexual orientation
not in the south
decoyplatypus
Member
Wow. I don't know much about Twitch as an institution (despite watching a fair amount of streams), but it surprises me that they've let this problem spiral. They could have easily chilled out for a couple of days and figured out a measured response (anything from temporarily suspending Horror to just explaining a general statement about "Remove X" statements), but instead they decided to panic over what appears to have been (at least initially) a pretty minor issue.
theprodigy
Member
haha Dorrie's eyes
REMOVE HORROR, REVEAL THE TRUTH
REMOVE HORROR, REVEAL THE TRUTH
this is why im part of the speed running community, this hitbox channel is fucking hilarious
http://www.hitbox.tv/T0ast
http://www.hitbox.tv/T0ast
CaptainBroseph
Member
Nepotism is a big part of these kinds of sites, I realize, but it's sad to see that nepotism not only lets Horror do whatever he wants on the site, but also be free of any consequence. When Duke made that joke, it was precisely that, a joke. Perma-banning him was just plain abuse, and there's no excusing it. We can at least agree that Horror is undermining Twitch's reputation with his actions, and something should be done, right?
Yes we get it, they have to legal right to do so.
What they are doing is very much wrong.
Puppet Shadow
Member
You appear to be under the assumption that this thread is about somebody being banned for saying something on twitch. Please read the thread.
uh
nobody is saying they don't have the right to close these channels
they're saying doing so is childish and unprofessional in this context
Everything else aside, that joke was an incredibly dumb idea and he deserved to get punished for it.
I would love to see Twitch make a move toward making their chat more civilized -- too bad they would end up banning about a third of their userbase.
Gangxxter
Member
Smh... Can't believe the mods at reddit comply with those stupid requests of Twitch.
I'm more of a 4chan fan anyway
A moderator employed favoritism (much like how Blizzard employs favoritism via its F&F program, and much like how every entity ever employs favoritism, consciously or not). The public response included sexual harassment and widespread harassment, to which he responded by employing bans.
Is this really as "wrong" as you think it is--and do your morals even matter against the ToS? I can tell you right now that the PR is on Twitch's side.
For whoever was asking about the Furry Cards: They are issued at the DMV.
ab.aeterno
Member
Yes, we can agree on that (check my edit.) I'm just saying that I think the reaction to the initial act of adding the emote was probably overblown, and the joke was in poor taste (dragging someone's SO into it is pretty low in my book, and the drama has successfully split the pair.)
phantomspiker
Member
That wasn't the purpose of the joke though. Duke was making light of the fact that Horror created a global emote for their boyfriend.
Lots of things are "textbook sexual harassment" when you're hypervigilant.
this
DeSo
Banned
Depends on what channels you watch.
theprodigy
Member
hey guys, I found Horror's GAF account
beastworship
Neo Member
CHEEZMO;90669887 said:
i got mine by doing the grand unveiling in public to a "minor", as an added bonus my address now shows up as a red dot and i get to go introduce myself to the neighbors.
Nabs
Member
That chat...
Rekki-Maru
Banned
emotes, serious buisness. hope this gets sorted out.
It's completely unusable/unreadable.
Fotheringay
Member
A moderator employed favoritism (much like how Blizzard employs favoritism via its F&F program, and much like how every entity ever employs favoritism, consciously or not). The public response included sexual harassment and widespread harassment, to which he responded by employing bans.
Is this really as "wrong" as you think it is--and do your morals even matter against the ToS? I can tell you right now that the PR is on Twitch's side.
For whoever was asking about the Furry Cards: They are issued at the DMV.
You have to be a twitch staffer. NO ONE has been supporting those who levied death threats against Horror, the criticism is squarely being placed at those who were shutting down channels for asking for his removal. And their is no "PR" going on for twitch's side, they're fucking terrified about this getting out in any way, not even attempting to spin it for their "side". Your posts in this topic have been a complete joke, never attempting to address the actual issue.
ab.aeterno
Member
So do you regularly pull this bullshit to try and undermine or avoid a discussion you don't like, or is accusing people you disagree with that they're actually someone else or doing something they're not just standard practice with you?
Because this is embarrassing to watch.
Inb4 I'm from Twitch too.
before the copy pasting shit began it was actually filled with a bunch of runners. now its a cesspool
Legal rights don't even need to play into it. They're a given and bringing it up is trivial. For a forum, its userbase represents both its product and its customers. Pissing off your users unnecessarily will diminish the incentive for people to post in general. The inertia achieved by simply having so many users already only goes so far, and even though you might still do well in numbers the quality of the crowd can change for the worse. That's why mod action needs to be reasonable and why there needs to be good communication regarding it. It's not because mods have to, but because they should.
Wowzers.
Well it's out, and they're going to have to address it. Would be nice if we could get some big news sites to report on this but they'd likely bow to demands from twitch admins.
theprodigy
Member
CaptainBroseph
Member
It was a dumb issue that Horror himself blew up by banning Duke and Twitch mods banning anyone who dissented. That whole furry thing isn't even an issue anymore, the meat of the drama is in the aftermath. I'm pretty biased, because I thought it was a funny, crude joke at an admin's expense, but I'm not sure what Duke expected to happen either after he made the joke haha.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure if Horror had only banned Duke and ignored REMOVE HORROR, this all would have blown over in a day or two, and people would eventually forget. Twitch shot themselves in the foot here.
commanderpepper
Member
I wish they replaced chat like they did with the textures.
It doesn't seem like hitbox has any options to moderate. But yeah, thing is going nuts.
I assure you that the rampant faux-homophobia, faux-antisemitism, faux-racism, and stupidity (which is certainly not faux!) does not represent the anti-Horror movement. What you see there in the chat is the extreme minority. All of the other people who are angry because a moderator moderated are stand-up citizens who would never participate in such insensitivity.
Now if you'll excuse me, Dean Monroe is calling me to a tub of glittering diamonds. Ta.
CHEEZMO™;90669887 said:
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Velcro Fly
Member
Yeah they can terminate your account at their discretion.
Only they were masking it as "hate speech" which is a load of bull. Some people on twitter were going overboard. People in the chat too. Remove Horror is not hate speech. It's a slap in the face to people who do face hate speech to say that shit is hate speech. It's disgusting for sure because the outcry had nothing to do with what Horror does in his personal life.
Only they were masking it as "hate speech" which is a load of bull. Some people on twitter were going overboard. People in the chat too. Remove Horror is not hate speech. It's a slap in the face to people who do face hate speech to say that shit is hate speech. It's disgusting for sure because the outcry had nothing to do with what Horror does in his personal life.
Passive Assassin
Member
#teampurity
Don't forget about the pet deposit.
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