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Assassin's Creed Syndicate Just Got Pro Support
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Why is it like that
Syndicate is better imo.
Disagree Guy
Member
I don't know anyone who thinks this. Syndicate imo is the best one since AC2 era.
I don't really count AC black flag as a true AC game.
You haven't read the thread have you ?
or they just really really care about native 4k UI elements above all else.
ISee
Member
But the ship combat was awesome and gave the game something new and fresh. Unity felt like a step back because of this.
arhra
Member
A dithered LOD transition would only have one set of dithered pixels, but here you can clearly see 2 additional frames of ghosting from the dress (and faint hints of a third, discernable mostly through some additional noise that isn't present if you look far enough away from the dress):
AC4 branching away from the typical AC formula is what made it so good though
erotic grandpa
Member
Lackluster Pro support aside, I'll echo what others are saying in that Syndicate is the best AC since the Ezio games.
Unity is a gorgeous game (artistically anyway - it's extremely soft on PS4) but it feels bloated and plodding.
Wish they had put more into this patch. I've been holding out on the DLC for a while, and would have loved to come back to a sharper, snappier game.
I enjoy the videogames they make and they're usually dirt cheap because they print too many copies, that's why.
Looks like this was a perfect candidate for a 1080p native redo with a locked 30fps for the Pro but they half-arsed it. Pity.
Corleth the Fey
Member
Here's a couple of shots from my Pro. These shots are 4K, but I'm using a 1080p screen. Something is definitely wrong - the aliasing was much cleaner on the standard version. It's not too bad running on the actual screen - way better than World of Final Fantasy as it's just the aliasing that's screwed in Syndicate.
Checkerboarding from 900p or something? There seems to be something wrong with Sony's libraries or one of these methods. Watchdogs 2 is lovely and clean for example - so it's an implementation thing.
Evie's hanging hair looks particularly bad here :
Is the Animus effect messed up here? I don't remember it looking this bad before :
Not all the shots I took look all that bad. Seems variable. Here :
Checkerboarding from 900p or something? There seems to be something wrong with Sony's libraries or one of these methods. Watchdogs 2 is lovely and clean for example - so it's an implementation thing.
Evie's hanging hair looks particularly bad here :
Is the Animus effect messed up here? I don't remember it looking this bad before :
Not all the shots I took look all that bad. Seems variable. Here :
Ask them not me.
Dictator93
Member
A dithered LOD transition would only have one set of dithered pixels, but here you can clearly see 2 additional frames of ghosting from the dress (and faint hints of a third, discernable mostly through some additional noise that isn't present if you look far enough away from the dress):
Maybe LOD transitions also ghost with the game's TAA?
Who wouldn't...
Garrett Hawke
Member
Well that's disappointing. Higher resolution support & better AF wouldve made me replay on the Pro.
No this is not checkerboard rendering. checkerboard rendering is not a up-scaling method.
ISee
Member
After he put the v into that thing in his last video I'm very happy for not having his attention.
They are usually pretty good?
The carriage stutter bug has not been fixed since the beginning of 2016, even though it has been brought up plently of times. Try playing the Jack the Ripper DLC and driving a carriage and boosting.
Corleth the Fey
Member
I kinda was implying the the 900p was used as the base of the checkerboard and then up-scaled from there to 4K from the checkerboarding res.
TetraGenesis
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platina
Member
Oh you. I swear you have some crazy vendetta out for Sony because of the pro. This game not being even native 1080p strikes me as lazy when you have battlefield running native 1080p, better textures and a noticeable better framerate on the pro. Curious as to what happened here.
Ubisoft happened.
Brerlappin
Member
This is like CSI Miami interpretation of 4K. "Zoom. Enhance. Zoom. Enhance. Publish to PS4" *shades* YEAAAAAAAAAAH
Checkerboard rendering would have changed the rendering resolution this seems to be still a 900p game.
You don't take an image then "checkerboard" it to a higher resolution. It works different.
With checkerboarding, you target a higher res than you can actually manage, then only render half of the pixels (in a checkerboard pattern), leave the other half blank for now. After you are done, the algorithm takes information from previous frames and the neighboring pixels of the current one and fills in the gaps. It is a deliberate decission and not a post effect.
Black Republican
Member
what kind of artifacts are these?
Missingno in human form!
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
So at first I thought maybe I'll go back and finally finish this. Then I realized what's actually happening. Wtf Ubisoft?!
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Corleth the Fey
Member
Yep, I see now. It just looks 900p.
I'm 90% sure of what checkerboarding is - though I'm happy to be corrected. I know how the algorithm works. I was conjecturing on the amount of pixels fed into the algorithm would 'add up' to 900p if rendered normally. I think that looking at it again and other comments that image would be different if it was doing that - so I was wrong about that.
What do you guys think is happening here and with World of Final Fantasy then?
Lister
Banned
Uh... yes it is.
TheWarlord
Neo Member
Some guy I know that works at Ubisoft swears that the new version renders at 1080p on both PS4 and PS4 Pro, but the images shown here are clearly 900p. Does anyone else have the game installed without patch to take some screens and then post the same screens after the patch to provide more evidence of 900p or 1080p?
No it's not
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
Uh... no it isn't.
Lister
Banned
Are you two claiming Checkerboard rendering isn't upscaling? What's your reasoning here?
what's yours?
are you going by the factually wrong idea that it scales from XXXXp to YYYYp (with YYYY > XXXX)
or are you just arguing semantics "well it does create additional pixel information each frame, so it's technically a scaling method"?
if it's the latter ... let's just not go there
formasymphonic
Member
would rather have a performance boost for Unity @1080p imo. That depiction of Paris was truly beautiful, let down only by its performance. (its following patches helped though)
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
I'd pick up both if they got proper patches. Both can look beautiful but are badly held back being low res. It's a shame this wasn't proper higher resolution support
Backfoggen
Banned
Best Pro patch confirmed
FusedAtoms
Member
Damn I saw this and got hopeful that maybe Far Cry Primal could get a patch too but if it's like this I'd rather pass