jack_package_200
Banned
I roll my eyes every time someone refers to themselves as an egalitarian and not a feminist.
Tim Soret and this game are a joke.
Tim Soret and this game are a joke.
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The Last Night: IGN Article [Quack Quack Slurp Slurp]
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I doubt gamers will care, honestly. Pewdiepie and JonTron are still thriving. And feminism sucks is a lot easier for bigots to defend than straight up white supremacy.
ElephantShell
Banned
Dear god Ryan there's a reason it's not getting RTs.
How can somebody be so oblivious to this?
This is a really bad look. There's no way he doesn't know.
AlexFlame116
Member
Sigh...what a terrible world we have right now. The next generation is going to have it rough if we don't step up and lead by example.
Oh it got everyone's attention all right.
Yeah, why try to do anything good or morally upstanding, when all of us are partially complicit in the evils of modern capitalism?
Revolutionary
Member
What exactly is your insinuation here? Are we supposed to be attacking (or "calling out") Mr. McAffrey for doing his job and being excited about an upcoming videogame?
I did that once today (the quit at the final boss thread). I know some of these clowns are just being dumb ass trolls, but it happens.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I can't think of too many things more inessential than a video game, and in turn can't find any sort of justification for going out of my way to help prop up this particular developer.
It's not complicated, bud. In fact, it's incredibly simple.
GavinUK86
Member
I can't tell if you're being serious or not...
RumbleHumble
Banned
I think it's fair to get pissy at McAffrey for promoting a shitty guy's video game built around a shitty gamergate wet dream. Especially when his own co-workers were harassed by Gamergate (Chloi Rad, Alanna Pierce)
Primethius
Banned
I hope this game bombs.
It's tough these days.
PositiveGamer
Member
A lot of people hated Phil Fish but did that stop people playing the amazing game Fez?
AcademicSaucer
Member
nop
That's a shame, I really want to see more of the actual gameplay.
that's a small mob. but considering the repeated pattern of that shit happening in the last thread i'm going to give the side eye to posts like that.
you can't seriously be comparing phil fish to tim soret
and in the end phil fish antics did harm to him, not others
the_darkness
Banned
The phone or laptop you typed this reply on was made in a factory that workers have thrown themselves off the roof of because of the way they're exploited.
Why are you happy to support Apple, Samsung or whoever else who have literally driven people to kill themselves but this is a bridge too far?
And people shitting in IGN? Really? Are people going to bitch out Netflix for streaming Miramax movies now?
ElephantShell
Banned
Fez wasn't a game ABOUT what people hated Phil Fish for.
RumbleHumble
Banned
I mean, why even try being a good person at all. Right? Right?
PositiveGamer
Member
Yes it did.. but people ultimately enjoyed the game..
I am sure many will enjoy the hell out of last night.
RumbleHumble
Banned
And many will have to deal with all the gamergate harassment it will inspire. HURRAY VIDEO GAMES!
Riding hard for some goobergater shit cuz it's an Xbox exclusive is definitely something worthy of derision.
(And as a side note, completely unsurprising from Mccaffrey.)
This is not the same thing. And in all honesty any Miramax movies Weinstein had personal hands in should be obscured or removed from views.
IGN should have done the research before trying to promote this game. It has a clear negative spiel that needs to be looked at and rejected.
the_darkness
Banned
At least have some semblance of perspective.
Animal cruelty, human exploitation and destroying our planet = A-OK.
Someone with shitty views about feminism = I hope his career is ruined and he rots in hell
AlexFlame116
Member
Phil Fish and Fez aren't/weren't in the same situation that Tim Soret and The Last Night are in.
do you remember what fez was about? honest question
i'm sure people will enjoy last night, and it will be a terrible thing
This game is significantly different circumstances. It has gamergate views built right into the narrative.
This is less like buying a phone from suspect workplace conditions and more like buying a book from milo yiannopoulos.
why does it upset you that people decide to not buy something so much that you're trying to call them out for being hypocrites? i have to buy gas from someone. if i can avoid adding "the last night" to the list of things i've bought from shitty people, why not?
Primethius
Banned
Holy shit.
Someone is actually defending this game using an argument like this.
Wow.
RumbleHumble
Banned
Your argument was rooted in the notion that all things we consume are going to result in negative consequences, which is true. But that logic, when examined to the fullest, is banal. We don't go anywhere with it, it can be used to negate action on literally anything.
Basically, vote with your wallet. It always works.
PositiveGamer
Member
I know many innocent gamers that simply enjoy video games and have 0 idea pertaining to gamergate or the antics of the creator.
the_darkness
Banned
Bullshit. Closing your eyes and ears to contrary opinions is not the way forward.
I don't support this game's supposed message. But I'm happy to explore it even if it means at the end of the game I sit back and say "well that was fucking dumb"
This strawman gets destroyed every time people decide to protest something. Please stop wasting everyone's time.
Ugh
Do you realize humans are capable of being concerned with all that?
Also: views also can lead to destruction too...hence the wake GamerGate has...especially when it sparked and educated a new generation of white nationalists...
Moon Presence
Member
Game looks incredible. Too bad it's not on Playstation.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Lmao this might be the best post in the thread
I'm just on the second page but what the fuck? I'm the last person who would advocate for witch hunts and one of the first who takes issue with the increasingly binary nature of the discussions on this site, especially in OT, but you just have to read this tweet of the dev:
Like, if you are still interested in the game after that I don't even know what to say. This isn't just about some political views of the dev, the damn game itself is based on his political beliefs. Why would any reasonable person look forward to this? Because it looks good? God fucking damnit.
RumbleHumble
Banned
Arguing that a game's central themes or identity won't, at the very least, subconsciously influence the person playing the game is disingenuous. Sure not everyone will walk away an alt-righter, but subtle propaganda is still propaganda.
Phil Fish being an arrogant shitheel compared to Soret's vision where feminism destroys the world...
try and pick out which is worse here
It's not closing my eyes if I see it and reject it. I have to know what it is to know to reject it. Your logic is faulty.
I don't have to "explore it" to know what it's about beforehand.
PositiveGamer
Member
It's been a while..
I love cyberpunk. However, I will wait for reviews before supporting the game.
Maybe the gameplay will suck too.
Nah, those viewpoints are trash. It can exist, but we can also tell the people who make it what trash they are.
the_darkness
Banned
I'm not defending the game itself insofar as I'm defending it's right to exist, be covered by media, and for people to express interest in it without be slandered outright.