Maxwell House
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That is awesome news. I will be buying my 2nd 360 this October I guess (for the HDMI port).PG2G said:
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X360 Price drop...confirmed.
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agreeRanger X said:
If true, I expect the pricing setup to be through the end of the year to be:
Core - $300
Premium - $350
Halo SKU - $400 (20GB + HDMI)
Elite - $450
Hard drives would be priced accordingly and HD pricing would actually make a bit more sense with a 20GB for $50 and a 120GB for $150.
I had always predicted a $50 price cut across all SKUs in October after Halo and before GTA4.
MercuryLS said:
I agree. The 100 dollar pricedrop would have been huge. 199 dollar Cores on shelves for Christmas. 50 will still have a big impact. The Core is now the same price as the Wii, and 350 sure looks good up against 500 or 600.
I wonder if the reason that we are not seeing a larger pricedrop may have anything to do with supply issues. We know there is a million plus flawed 360's in the channel, but how many more do they have in warehouses somewhere, and since they fixed the problem, how many 360's have they produced? My guess is they stopped building the screwed up machines months ago, just look at the limited shipments to retail, but when exactly did they start producing the newer improved versions? I doubt they have millions of the newer versions twisting away in storage. My personal conspiracy theory is that after they sell off this last batch of retail units, they do not have enough of the newer improved ones to replace them if sales are huge this holiday.
uts on tinfoil hat: Therefore, they did not drop the price more, because they could not supply the demand for them.http://www.xbox360rally.com/liveblogging-jws-search-for-answers/
Guy called 11 Walmarts for a confirmation.
Guy called 11 Walmarts for a confirmation.
BolognaOni
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Emiru said:
Sweet... can't wait to see what one of these looks like inside. Should be buying a new TV this fall, and assuming the redesign is out, I'll be on the 360 bandwagon.
I have a the mass(ive) erection...
TurtleSnatcher
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His info is also wrong. That I can tell you.LJ11 said:
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Reducing the price now by $100 wouldn't be a good idea. Halo 3 and GTA4 are going to be released soon and they will sell systems without a big price drop.MercuryLS said:
Once MS feel that they've sold all the 360's they can with the release of halo 3 and GTA4 at the original pric, they should make the price drop and attract the customers who were not willing to pay $400 to play those games.
siamesedreamer
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Turtle, since you seem to know more than us, can you give us a clue about the Halo 3 LE 360? Is it less than $450?
Father_Brain
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It'll be interesting to see how Nintendo responds if the Core drops to $250, but I'm guessing that they won't need to.
S
Shepherd
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I would buy a $399 Elite and give my Premium to my daughter. I hope it is true.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Eric WK said:
The problem is.. this guy is posting random crap from some random walmart employee and hes just going to get everyones hopes up..
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I dont think they'll do anything because in the position that they're in they dont really need too. As several people have said, wii's are selling out its doing incredible well. However they might be a little concerned about the price drop and the release of both halo 3 and GTA4. Its bound to give a big boost to 360 sales and it could affect the wii sales ever so slightly, but Nintendo wont lose any sleep over it. They're attracting a new audience and even people who have been playing games for a long time. They've also got their own big titles coming out during fall. Wii sales should be as good as ever over the next few months despite the 360 price drop and the release of two big games.Father_Brain said:
RPS37
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Eric WK said:
I always thought MS's biggest concern when dropping the price would be the overpriced accessories (hard drives).
That makes sense because then the only accessory (hard drive) re-pricing would be the 120GB dropped from $180-150. That's kind of like the HD-DVD drive re-price $200-180 that just happened. Seems possible.
Maxwell House
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Wow, that is better price drop than I expected for the other two SKUs. Core for $249 should move some serious units. I wonder if there is a chance that a memory card is going to be included?Eric WK said:
TurtleSnatcher
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:lolEric WK said:
Kevtones said:
this fall's lineup would do jack, didley, and squat for an xbox 360 still at $400. by and large, people willing to buy 360s at $400 for halo 3 have been finding reasons to buy it beforehand. think like casuals and less like hardcore forumites and you might see that a $400 console is way too expensive for one game to move in large quantities.
TurtleSnatcher
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Odysseus said:
I agree..
The issue wth the 360 is that its priced so high that it seems to cap itself off from more of an audience.. even a $50.00 price drop is better than nothing.
I just think that people thinking Core to Wii like prices are expecting way too much and will only set themselves up for dissapointment. Though Elite being at $400.00 would be insta buy for me :lol
TurtleSnatcher
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(edited out for privacy).
Odysseus said:
Well I think the question is whether Microsoft is trying to trump Sony, or compete with Nintendo? I think MS is going after Sony's market first, and at $400, with the games they have, its a safe bet they'll continue to lead. I think lowering the price by a full $100 early next year would help them garner HD market dominance and sustain the momentum they currently have.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Both GTA and Halo were two of the best selling tiutles last gen, so they would have made an impact without the price drop, but the $50 price drop will help improve sales even more. I think that its a good move. Selling the 360 at $350 when Halo 3 and GTA4 are released will bring in more revenue than selling it at $400 when those two games are released. I think the percentage increase in sales will be big enough so that MS will make more money than they did when the price was higher.Odysseus said:
FortunateSon
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People are extremely overestimating the impact of Halo 3 and the next GTA in this thread.
Look, if you guys are going by trends, trends also tend to show that people wouldn't spend $350 for a damn console. Let alone just for Halo 3 or GTA.
For example, at what price was Xbox was when Halo 2 came out? What was the userbase like?
Think about that for a second and come back to me with a logical reply.
What I will say is that the next GTA and Halo 3 will sell considerably less. Way less.
Unless, somehow magically, Xbox360 is $250 or the userbase is above >15 million in NA itself.
Edit: I'm talking hardware boost here and launch software sales.
Look, if you guys are going by trends, trends also tend to show that people wouldn't spend $350 for a damn console. Let alone just for Halo 3 or GTA.
For example, at what price was Xbox was when Halo 2 came out? What was the userbase like?
Think about that for a second and come back to me with a logical reply.
What I will say is that the next GTA and Halo 3 will sell considerably less. Way less.
Unless, somehow magically, Xbox360 is $250 or the userbase is above >15 million in NA itself.
Edit: I'm talking hardware boost here and launch software sales.
TheRipDizz
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You forgot the deal breaker. Instead of one, you get TWO Gamecubes with the Wii! How the hell did you overlook that?Talamius said:
UncleGuito
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But what about the difference in hardware and technology? The Wii's hardware is relatively the same as the Gamecube's, but the 360 is "next-generation" technology. It all boils down to what you expect and yearn from in the system.Talamius said:
TurtleSnatcher
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Editor at GameSpot. (I think)diddlyD said:
Karma Kramer
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FortunateSon said:
GTA3 sold a shit load of PS2's priced at $299 last generation.... with the Xbox 360 now priced at $249... history tells us that the Xbox 360 should possibly break records this holiday.
Karma Kramer said:
you don't actually believe that, do you?
ps2 sold 2.7 million units in december 2002 at $199. that's the high water mark for the last generation. you think microsoft themselves are even dreaming of hitting that number? also keep in mind that ps2s sold much, much, much better during the non-holiday months in those years it approached or surpassed 2 million units in december than xbox 360 is doing right now. my best guestimate right now is that microsoft will be sitting pretty if they get 2.7 million for september-december combined @ $350.
also... 360 @ $249. cute. the core has yet to find an audience, and i don't think a $50 price drop alone gets it there. it needs a reconfiguration.
GarthVaderUK
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CoG said:
He now works for EA's LA Studio, and was Associate Producer for C&C3: Tiberium Wars.
TurtleSnatcher
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Wow what a flippin upgrade :lol Lucky him.GarthVaderUK said:
Speevy said:
I don't think it's a stupid move if this turns out to be true. It's in MS's interest to move as many 360s as possible. Nintendo is giving everyone a run for their money, and MS wants to put the hurt on Sony as well.
Furthermore, Halo 3 aint the end all be all either. I know many people think everyone wants Halo by default, but it's simply not true. Yes, it's a very popular franchise, but there are plenty of people who don't give a shit about Halo.
Karma Kramer
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Odysseus said:
Maybe... but historically the $249 Core should do wonders for Microsoft and the casual consumer. Especially if Microsoft advertises and pushes the Core more..
I don't think the Core will put out PS2 numbers... but I defiantly think the Core will begin to start selling a lot more and not just be like 5-10% of the 360 install base.
FortunateSon said:
I am sorry, but I am going to have to ignore your analysis of trends. Two hours ago, you could not recall the 360 shortages of 14 months ago, and somehow your sales algorithms are suddenly in tune with reality? And while the best selling version of the 360 may be dropping down to 350, there is another SKU that will be at 250.... Which is exactly where the sexulant Wii has been kicking the hell out of the industry with few games, and few features.
Karma Kramer said:
i don't know, i think what ships with the core should better match the premium if it is to catch on. frankly, i think the only difference between skus should be the hard drive. i think microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot by making the core as gimped as it is. on one hand, it upsells customers to a premium, which is undeniably what microsoft wants since it is better on their bottom line that way. on the other hand, having no one buy the lesser sku completely defeats the purposes of having it and goes against the whole idea of reaching the budget-minded consumer. who knows, perhaps when the internals of the 360 become profitable, microsoft will actually want to sell cores and will therefore make them more appealing.