BoogieWoogie
Banned
That was probably because the camera just held focused on his head, which stayed in place, while the rest of him was bouncing around. That was a nice touch.
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Stephen King's IT |OT| He thrusts his fists and then he posts (Unmarked spoilers)
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That was probably because the camera just held focused on his head, which stayed in place, while the rest of him was bouncing around. That was a nice touch.
matrixman92
Member
Just got out, I absolutely loved it. I was surprised how violent it was. I was shocked in like the first 10 minutes.
Man this was unsettling as fuck, scared me quite a few times especially when they were in the haunted house. The effects and just general imagery used was exceptionally well done. The scene where they are in Bills garage shook me to the core because I really didn't expect it to end that way when we saw some of that part with the projector in the trailers.
Fuck clowns.
Fuck clowns.
That's correct.
esmith08734
Member
Yeah the opening was shockingly gruesome.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Muschietti does a great job of making you feel like you saw something worse that what was actually on-screen.
IIRC, all you see is the moment where he bites down. Georgie's stump is flashed on briefly (if at all) and that's it before he's pulled under.
The Kintner boy dies harder in Jaws than George Denbrough does in IT.
but Muschietti makes it FEEL worse than it is. Its an amazingly effective opener.
More_Badass
Member
Is Mama a good horror movie? Never seen it, but the director clearly has a talent for horror
That's some Texas Chainsaw Massacre magic right there. TCM barely has any blood or gore in it at all, but it feels brutal af
Monocle
Member
This policy works up until the point when you get a Guardians 2, which has delightful credits (GUARDIANS INFERNO) scattered with like 4 bonus scenes.
There's like 4 or 5 bullying scenes with 1 of them being particularly fucked up. I can only remember him saying beep beep once but the sound was kind of blown out in our cinema.
BFIB
Member
How the ending is played out is what I'm interested in seeing. I hope its Pennywise as the clown again, and not the spider with a giant deadlight.
Yeah giant spider thing would be weird but depends on how they do it. I really like that they did an amalgam of all their fears during the end fight. They even threw in the mummy which I was surprised about because they skipped the terrifying scene on the bridge.
More_Badass
Member
Ideally they'll go full The Thing-body horror monstrosity that might look kind of like a spider
eso76
Member
Much older than that in the book I think.
Are the stories from Derry (forgot how those were called in the book) in the movie in any way ?
They should totally do a part 3 with those otherwise. Better yet, a part 1.5 to release in 2018 while waiting for part 2.
Loved those and Dick Halloran's cameo appearance.
I'm pretty sure the first copy of the book I bought did not have them at all.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
There are a few mentioned in a history book but they dont do entire scenes set in those pictures if thats what you mean.
I read earlier they want to start the sequel with the black spot but that and others are mentioned throughout.
DiscoJer
Member
Honestly, it was pretty jarring in the book and kinda ruined it for me.
StrongBelwas
Banned
Yeah.. I just read the book over the last 3 weeks and I found all the descriptions of Bev becoming womanly pretty awkward.
Saucycarpdog
Member
Came back from it an hour ago, what an insane experience. I liked almost everything from the child actors to Skarsgard's performance.
Guess only critique I have is some of the CGI is bad. Other than that I really liked the movie and I'm hyped for chapter 2.
Guess only critique I have is some of the CGI is bad. Other than that I really liked the movie and I'm hyped for chapter 2.
eso76
Member
Yeah the black spot is the one I was talking about, and others about the background of Bangor.
Makes sense that they wouldn't be fleshed out here since iirc, in the book it's young man/adult Mike telling the story of Derry through those articles and documents he researched while working at the library.
Would make a very good 'spin off' chapter or short series before the actual sequel releases.
Jawmuncher
Member
Saw it a few hours ago. It was good. I was hoping it'd be a little scarier though. The content was there but I felt a lot of the CG just wasn't up to snuff. Stuff like the Lepper, Headless Egg Boy, and Creepy painting lady just stood out like a sore thumb for me. Since they weren't really scary. I get "But the kids are scared of them" and what not. But I think things could've been done a bit better there.
Overall though Pennywise made up for those instances though. Clown form always ended up stealing the show just like he should. The scene in the garage was by far my favorite.
Hopefully in the next film the CG and monster designs for the non-clown stuff is a bit better.
Overall though Pennywise made up for those instances though. Clown form always ended up stealing the show just like he should. The scene in the garage was by far my favorite.
Hopefully in the next film the CG and monster designs for the non-clown stuff is a bit better.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Muschietti really has a penchant for shit running at the camera/a character with its arms outstretched and its head lolling around rapidly. I'm kinda over it.
The beauty of Stephen King's book lied in its thorough characterization which was only possible due to the monstrous length of it.
Barring a dozen-hour adaptation of course this was never going to be as great, but for what it was I appreciated it. Much better than the miniseries.
I'm just sad there was so little time given to some of the kids.
I really appreciated the little touches, though, like adults aiding in the fucked-up goings-on in Derry through simple ignorance and lascivity. The TV in the background the first time we see Bev's home talking about playing in the sewers was fun, but I REALLY loved when Ben was in the library reading about old Derry watching the librarian slowly creep closer to him each time the camera shifted to him. She was never in focus but you could just make out a huge, disturbing smile on her face. It was never brought up or made to be more than it was and I loved it.
Other than that, I guess the CG was noticeably poor at times, mostly with the Leper and sadly a lot of Pennywise scenes.
The beauty of Stephen King's book lied in its thorough characterization which was only possible due to the monstrous length of it.
Barring a dozen-hour adaptation of course this was never going to be as great, but for what it was I appreciated it. Much better than the miniseries.
I'm just sad there was so little time given to some of the kids.
I really appreciated the little touches, though, like adults aiding in the fucked-up goings-on in Derry through simple ignorance and lascivity. The TV in the background the first time we see Bev's home talking about playing in the sewers was fun, but I REALLY loved when Ben was in the library reading about old Derry watching the librarian slowly creep closer to him each time the camera shifted to him. She was never in focus but you could just make out a huge, disturbing smile on her face. It was never brought up or made to be more than it was and I loved it.
Other than that, I guess the CG was noticeably poor at times, mostly with the Leper and sadly a lot of Pennywise scenes.
More_Badass
Member
We sure the Leper was CG? People thought the Conjuring's Crooked Man was CG, but both are played by Javier Botet. He also played the ghost in Mama
Enjoyed it a lot, but it was rushed to its detriment. Numerous setups for scares that paid off in the blink of an eye and character beats that could've been better with more time. It's one of those movies that is easy to celebrate for what makes it excellent, but it also makes its shortcomings very obvious. I'm glad I got a great horror movie, but it makes it obvious that there's a better adaptation waiting to be made.
I don't get the complaints about cg though. Just because it was obvious doesn't mean it was poorly used. My only issue was all the shaky-face Pennywise bullshit.
I don't get the complaints about cg though. Just because it was obvious doesn't mean it was poorly used. My only issue was all the shaky-face Pennywise bullshit.
Yeah I'm pretty sure the leper was real. There's a few on-set shots of him from when they were filming.
Get yourself a Korean cinematographer and you can craft some real high production value cinema. It's remarkable how slick their movies look with a fraction of the budget. Something in the water, their cinematographers have been killing it since the mid 2000s.
Jawmuncher
Member
Looking at what was on set the leper was a mix if live action and CG. With the CG dragging it down.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Either way I always envisioned the Leper as, well, a Leper and not as the water zombies from Creepshow.
ArgyleReptile
Banned
Saw it a while ago.
Probably my favorite film this Summer and my second favorite horror film ever.
Probably my favorite film this Summer and my second favorite horror film ever.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I liked the film but felt like it had too many modern horror sensibilities to work for me as a horror movie. There were times when I wished it didn't rely on a scare chord for some of the scares, and I honestly thought Pennywise was a bit much at times.
So it was a decent coming-of-age adventure but a ho-hum scary flick.
So it was a decent coming-of-age adventure but a ho-hum scary flick.
What's your first?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
This wasn't the film I was hoping for when it came to the horror aspects. Outside of the bathroom scene, which I thought was tremendous, none of the setpieces really got under my skin. And I'll echo the thoughts of others that I wanted more of Derry and its enabling of Pennywise.
The more I think about the movie, though, the more I like it. Once I get away from my expectations, I realize just how much fun I had the movie. The best comparison I can think of Star Trek '09, where the actual intent of the movie was to make a crowdpleasing adventure rather than what the most devoted fanbase wants. And IT is a smashing success by that merit, thanks to strong writing and a phenomenal cast.
I'll be curious what sort of movie the sequel is.
The more I think about the movie, though, the more I like it. Once I get away from my expectations, I realize just how much fun I had the movie. The best comparison I can think of Star Trek '09, where the actual intent of the movie was to make a crowdpleasing adventure rather than what the most devoted fanbase wants. And IT is a smashing success by that merit, thanks to strong writing and a phenomenal cast.
I'll be curious what sort of movie the sequel is.
TrueDefault
Member
Saw this last night. This was better than the trailer let me to believe. The only things didn't work for me were the CG for the painting and the sick man.
Plus, some people took their children to see this movie. The stupidity.
Plus, some people took their children to see this movie. The stupidity.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
They said that because the bully was pulling the rope up. It was still at the top of the well.
W. L. Saga
Neo Member
My new favorite horror movie of all time (not that I saw many, not a horror fan in general), and I can't remember laughing this hard in a theater in ages. So, it's also excellent as a comedic effort. I don't go to cinema often, but this was worth every penny.
Here in Brazil we have a TV show that does pranks, and we just had one IT-themed to promote the movie's launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az4amgoeUOk
Here in Brazil we have a TV show that does pranks, and we just had one IT-themed to promote the movie's launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az4amgoeUOk
ArgyleReptile
Banned
The Thing.
I will admit, I will need a second viewing because there were two people who were talking constantly through the movie, so maybe I'll catch more things to critique, but the movie still entertained me despite the distractions.
Majmun
Member
NYR
Member
I think the "It: Chapter 1" was the big reveal and after movie moment.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Only 12 people in my theater at 3:45 and one of them was no older than 4.
Never screamed or cried, just blabbered once in a while and got shushed by their dad.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Im pretty sure there are more minors in my theater right now than adults. I'm not a protect the children person, but it's pretty insane.
Its also full.
Its also full.
Feels like chapter 2 will delve more into the town of Derry and the adults of the town. Mike and Ben will probably play a much bigger role as characters that investigate and make clear to the audience that the town itself is evil. Make it more of a mystery than scare house horror.
I wouldn't even be surprised if the entire first third or half of the film lacks Pennywise and they try to build up to him.
I wouldn't even be surprised if the entire first third or half of the film lacks Pennywise and they try to build up to him.
NYR
Member
Yep, this. It was great.
I'm a big King fan, and happened to finally get to The Dark Tower. Not want to make this about that movie, but there is a scene in it where Roland explains to Jake (who sketched something in sand) that outside our universe, evil beings try to get in. In the Dark Tower movie, they actually show a spider trying to cross that boundary. But that's pretty much how King wrote IT as well. Pennywise/Bob Gray/IT is an ancient being that crashed on earth, and has a feeding cycle. He is not an 'alien', but more a Lovecraftian kind of entity that keeps a fixed location, is almost immortal, and shapes and corrupts his surroundings. Or, if I recall correctly, IT is actually female.