Syphon Filter
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You're wrong on both fronts. Halo 4, Alan Wake and Gears 3 look just as good as Gow 3 and KZ. In terms of next gen there is no difference for both from the same shown so far.
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Adam Sessler & Albert Penello on the Xbox One (Interview)
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You're wrong on both fronts. Halo 4, Alan Wake and Gears 3 look just as good as Gow 3 and KZ. In terms of next gen there is no difference for both from the same shown so far.
LukasTaves
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Highest end graphics today means a multi Titan setup... If you think Ps4 target that then you are in for a rude awakening...
We also knew the specs of 360 and Ps3, in fact even more detailed that we have now about Ps4 and xbone... And yet, pretty much everyone never saw it coming how 360 would hold up so well against the ps3...
fastford58
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Wow...so it wasn't just the beginning of gen 8 that M. Nelson was outright lying about stuff.
Those last two paragraphs by Albert are kinda telling though. MS talked about the same things before the 360 launched but now that PS4 is clearly more powerful on paper its a different message this time. He's admitting the PS4 is more powerful, and just downplaying the amount.
Damn!
Fresh Face
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Can I get an Amen?
la flama blanca
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lolllll yeah, no. They don't touch Sony's exclusives.
fastford58
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No. Just no. Alan Wake on the same level of GoW3 or KZ3? Not even close. Geez.
vpance
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That is worse than those deluded posts on B3D. Stick to formal interviews with soft questions Albert.
It sounds like someone not working for Sony is overly invested in boxes that they do not own yet.. At least Albert works for a company that makes one of these boxes, and still he isn't rude as you guys, so what the hell are your excuses?
LiquidMetal14
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It's that magic again. Magic at work!
RedAssedApe
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I'm not quite sure the narrative is the same this time around though. It is much easier to compare the two platforms this time around. Whereas PS3 was this exotic sort of tech that was way different from the 360 and what people were used to developing for.
Saying #TRUTHFACT in this scenario is just as fanboyish as the "buh buh buh, the numbers that people told me matters" people you are calling out. Especially considering the consoles haven't launched yet.
As many developers have said...you probably won't see what these consoles can do until several years into the generation. And I can't remember any console generation where that wasn't true.
iamshadowlark
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Naw I disagree with everything here.
Honestly I feel bad for the MS not-PR people, it definitely feels like they were expecting much closer platform parity before Sony lucked out with GDDR density. It's obvious that having a significantly weaker platform was not part of their plans for this generation and now there's not a lot they can say except downplay the disparity.
Syphon Filter
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They do, i played both.
base shagohod
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I somehow never realized that I hate these system spec threads until now.
LiquidMetal14
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I agree but this is a forum. We have all types. Some hold their stuff together. Others snap and are passive aggressive.
Uno Venova
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Uh...huh. I don't know what about Alberts post would cause any tears. It really just looks like a backfire waiting to happen.
iamshadowlark
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It would be more interesting if he would remain around to take the scrutiny of his boasts.
Seriously why GAF is amazing. Right from someone who knows; not a bunch of people who THINK they do.
gamemadmax
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only 360 owner here
played unchared 2,3 gow3 on my friends ps3
i think visually no 360 games beats them
They wouldn't "let" Sony have a significant power advantage, but they did "let" Sony use much faster RAM and a significantly more powerful GPU.
fastford58
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Then you are subjectively wrong AND objectively blind.
RedNumberFive
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LukasTaves
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8GB of ram was decided in late 2010, according to an ex-Ms employee and insiders (that told months ago about upclocks of gpu and cpu) on b3d, before that xbone already had esram in its design.
So at least that design choice was there long before the need to have lots and lots of ram.
Zatoichi's Cane
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Albert you are infinitely more likable/credible than the used car salesman.
MS should definitely put you in the forefront of PR interviews. I still think the PS4 will be at least 25% more powerful when all is said and done. Where there is smoke there is fire, you guys over clocking, Need for speed guy on record saying there is a difference [he didn't say which console but we know
], and in general people who understand this topic far better than I do commenting on the matter leads me to believe that difference is sizable. But again, good on you for coming on and posting.
So have I. I have both systems and a decent majority of PS3's titles shit on 360 from great heights. Only games that came close to matching that kind of quality was Gears, Gears 3, and Halo 4.
Albert you are infinitely more likable/credible than the used car salesman.
MS should definitely put you in the forefront of PR interviews. I still think the PS4 will be at least 25% more powerful when all is said and done. Where there is smoke there is fire, you guys over clocking, Need for speed guy on record saying there is a difference [he didn't say which console but we know
But again, good on you for coming on and posting.
How dare you insult Gaming T-shirts Boss.
LiquidMetal14
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Seriously why GAF is amazing. Right from someone who knows; not a bunch of people who THINK they do.
You're championing that part of his post? That's the most bullish and worse part of it.
He's just as guilty for flinging dirt. Mind you, I haven't seen this type of talk hardly from Sony or Nintendo other than a small jab about MSFT's flip flops. The latter half of the post reads like a disillusion fan. And we've had others bring up some of his past posts. It's not all sunshine and roses so I would hope you'd see not just what you want to see.
Syphon Filter
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If it's subjective then clearly it's not an advantage.
la flama blanca
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Seriously why GAF is amazing. Right from someone who knows; not a bunch of people who THINK they do.
It's going to be quite sad when Second Son launches and for a long while there wouldn't be anything that holds a candle to it on the XBOX.
Alan Wake doesn't belong in there. I loved the game but it runs at a really low resolution on the 360 - 960 x 544.
I agree with your point, though. The very best games on both systems looked about as good as each other.
OverBlood 3
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I guess we'll just see when the consoles are out. I wouldn't take the word of someone who works for Microsoft OR Sony, they have obvious biases.
All I know is the PS Vita is king and PC is the Queen.
All I know is the PS Vita is king and PC is the Queen.
RedNumberFive
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You were starting to make a good case until you brought up Gears 3.
oh shiiii ... dat hidden dGPU
Salvor.Hardin
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Albert you are infinitely more likable/credible than the used car salesman.
MS should definitely put you in the forefront of PR interviews. I still think the PS4 will be at least 25% more powerful when all is said and done. Where there is smoke there is fire, you guys over clocking, Need for speed guy on record saying there is a difference [he didn't say which console but we know
But again, good on you for coming on and posting.
What in the world is wrong with you people? What do you gain out of using personal insults against guys that have done nothing but work for a company that makes a video game console?
Gets your heads checked.
Trogdor1123
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I love it when company people post here. Helps me really feel like they are involved in the gaming community and thats important to me. Do any Sony guys post here?
Metalmurphy
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Seriously why GAF is amazing. Right from someone who knows; not a bunch of people who THINK they do.
He knows so much he's dead wrong.
And not only is the gap bigger this time, but there isn't an issue with a slip memory pool and the dev environment is much friendlier.
Albert Penello
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I'm not assuming anyone is dumb. Not at all. I can understand based on what has been disclosed, why people are arriving at that conclusion.
I'm stating that not everyone knows all the facts. There are still a lot of important details about the platforms that are still unknown. I have many, many questions about what Sony is doing technically.
The question I posed earlier, and the statements I'm making now, will come out when we see the actual shipping boxes.
The most obvious point is that anyone looking at games on both platforms do not see ANY difference, let alone this alleged 30% - 40%. Both systems are powerful. Both are capable of next-gen graphics. I'm merely saying the application of that performance will mean the actual difference will not be that great.
I'm stating that not everyone knows all the facts. There are still a lot of important details about the platforms that are still unknown. I have many, many questions about what Sony is doing technically.
The question I posed earlier, and the statements I'm making now, will come out when we see the actual shipping boxes.
The most obvious point is that anyone looking at games on both platforms do not see ANY difference, let alone this alleged 30% - 40%. Both systems are powerful. Both are capable of next-gen graphics. I'm merely saying the application of that performance will mean the actual difference will not be that great.
Iacobellis
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No, it was real. If you Google "Major Nelson Xbox 360 vs. PS3", you'll see he actually made four blog posts boasting the supposed superiority of the 360 hardware.
Last Of Us is possible on xbox 360?
How about Uncharted 2
Or GoW 3? How about GT6?
I am saying if the devs of all those games only dev for 360...
doubt that, clearly PS3 arch design was created to blow away any exclusive game on any other console.
What made 360 seem to have better graphics was 3rd party and Memory arch design which was very difficult to manage on Ps3 but easy for 360s.
PS3 never has a 3rd party dev fully make a series for it supported by Sony like MS did with EpiC, they didnt want to deal with Cell/Spu ram fiasco.
How about Uncharted 2
Or GoW 3? How about GT6?
I am saying if the devs of all those games only dev for 360...
doubt that, clearly PS3 arch design was created to blow away any exclusive game on any other console.
What made 360 seem to have better graphics was 3rd party and Memory arch design which was very difficult to manage on Ps3 but easy for 360s.
PS3 never has a 3rd party dev fully make a series for it supported by Sony like MS did with EpiC, they didnt want to deal with Cell/Spu ram fiasco.
For a good while, 3rd parties looked and ran better on 360.
Anywho, Albert seems like a solid fellow. Definitely comes off more authentic than some other individuals.
quickwhips
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Do you really believe the stuff that you typed there?
Syphon Filter
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Not true at all. The main titles that are visually great on ps3 are kz,gow and uc,for xbox its halo 4 and gears 3 along with alan wake. They are all comparable, gears 3 looks better than uc to me.
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