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SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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Warehouse number eight.
MrCunningham
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Really? They already finished HD ports?
Hi all,
First message on gaf for this wonderful game I've just started.
I can't believe that it came out 15 years ago. If I had played it back in time, it would probably be my GOAT along with MGS.
The fun fact is that it can easily be in my top 3...amazing!
I just started the CD2 but even with having kinda spoiled (watched videos) myself the game up to this point I'm loving it. And now come the uncharted parts. YEESSSSS.
Also my first KS, I backed with the PS4's physical version.
All my best to the success of Shenmue 3.
(Sorry for my english)
First message on gaf for this wonderful game I've just started.
I can't believe that it came out 15 years ago. If I had played it back in time, it would probably be my GOAT along with MGS.
The fun fact is that it can easily be in my top 3...amazing!
I just started the CD2 but even with having kinda spoiled (watched videos) myself the game up to this point I'm loving it. And now come the uncharted parts. YEESSSSS.
Also my first KS, I backed with the PS4's physical version.
All my best to the success of Shenmue 3.
(Sorry for my english)
Nightengale
Member
The rumour(?) is that the ports exist, is complete, but SEGA doesn't feel it's worth releasing/won't make them back the money it'll cost to print the disc/market it.
On top of whatever legal mumbo jumbos.
Gamezone
Gold Member
In worst case make it a digital only release. SEGA will probably profit a lot from the sales from Shenmue 3, and it`s not secret that Shenmue 3 will sell more copies if people get to play the two first games.
Nightengale
Member
Legal/licensing mumbo jumbo still exist.
Hopefully with this Kickstarter success, SEGA will be willing to get off their lazy butts, contact some lawyers and try to figure out who they need to sign some documents with to clear the path for a release.
Acquiescence
Member
Welcome to the site. It's awesome to read that people are still discovering the series for the first time after all these years, and that they're enjoying it too. Warms the cockles of my heart.
I'm curious though, what are you referring to when you say "the Uncharted parts"?
George Stobbart avatar with Shenmue Defense Force banner. You sir, have awesome taste (Broken Sword V and Shenmue III are the only games I've ever backed on Kickstarter).
The parts he/she hasn't played before / has no idea what happens in. It wasn't a dig at the Naughty Dog series haha
Acquiescence
Member
Thank you very much! Shenmue III is the only game I've backed thus far. I didn't even bother putting any money toward Broken Sword V for some reason. Probably for the best as it didn't really turn out all that great in the end.
Ooooh, haha, oops. Yeah that would make sense. Guess my brain is just hard-wired now to think that whenever the word uncharted appears then it must the game.
Shadowman16
Member
Its so great seeing the upswing this kickstarter got over the last couple of days 
Still not sure if I'll raise my pledge further or not... Still, I'm planning to replay the first two games later this year (once Yakuza 0 is complete) and for the first time I'll be able to watch 2's ending knowing the sequel is just a couple of years away, which is still somewhat unbelievable!
Still not sure if I'll raise my pledge further or not... Still, I'm planning to replay the first two games later this year (once Yakuza 0 is complete) and for the first time I'll be able to watch 2's ending knowing the sequel is just a couple of years away, which is still somewhat unbelievable!Yes, the game was a little disappointing unfortunately. Too much fan service. Let's hope Shenmue III will turn out better. Yu Suzuki should stay as far away from fan feedback as possible. I don't want to play a best of Shenmue game.
MrCunningham
Member
Hmm, I wonder what sort of legal problems these games have? I have hear it was middleware related, but I would imagine that CRI provided all the middle ware for the game. I don't see why a digital release would hurt Sega financially? But then again, I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes at Sega.
New updated graph, next one in 3/4 days.
I think Shenmue 3 can compete Bloodstained now.
It's pretty assured to beat it at this point.
Crimson_Justice
Member
It's early morning yet, but I don't see much talk about the Gamer's Journal Shenmue video. There's even a thread for it.
I think even the teaser video is enough to get gamers who don't know about Shenmue hyped for it. Spread it around, guys. This could be the catalyst the campaign needs to get to the higher goals.
(I'm not involved with the video. I just want to see this campaign succeed.)
I think even the teaser video is enough to get gamers who don't know about Shenmue hyped for it. Spread it around, guys. This could be the catalyst the campaign needs to get to the higher goals.
(I'm not involved with the video. I just want to see this campaign succeed.)
I'd like, but it's not sure at all.
Shenmue 3 will need a final strong boost, like Bloodstained.
About that, anyone know why Bloodstained performed so much the 2 last days of its campaign ?
Theonik
Member
Most KS of this kind get final boosts.
A lot of fence-sitters wait out big campaigns, but feel the clock ticking at the end and jump aboard.
Also, everyone who hits the "remind me" button on the campaign gets a notification in the last 48 hours.
And press coverage tends to go into overdrive as campaigns near their conclusion.
They could easily hit the 6 mil target if they announced Xbox One support. Is there a chance of that happening or is the Playstation part in this an exclusivity grab?
Either way, I'm hyped for it so don't care which platform it's on, just want it to get to 10 mil for all the planned stuff. The worst part of a kickstarter is knowing things planned were missing, when usually these things are kept quiet.
Either way, I'm hyped for it so don't care which platform it's on, just want it to get to 10 mil for all the planned stuff. The worst part of a kickstarter is knowing things planned were missing, when usually these things are kept quiet.
Kenzodielocke
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They don't need to announce a xbox one version. Pretty sure this will hit more than 6 million on his last day.
Nightengale
Member
I'm pretty much waiting till the last few days to be part of the final push.
Honestly may be better for Shenmue III to stay console exclusive with Sony through release. I'm sure they'll showcase the game at future E3 press conferences, and tout it as a win for their third party team. They'll get good PR for it, and Shenmue 3 will get a lot of mainstream airtime that may help it sell well on release.
It's usually best to dance with the girl who brought you.
Acquiescence
Member
I agree with you wholeheartedly there. It's nice that the fanbase is providing the funding for Shenmue 3 and everything, but that doesn't mean Yu should listen to us guys when it comes to designing the actual game. Him and his team members who worked on the original games should adhere to their own vision and stick to what they think is best, especially a visionary like Yu Suzuki. That was the problem with Broken Sword 5, it was all too content to just pander to the fanbase and give them what they wanted at every turn without making any great strides forward. Shenmue 3 needs to be above that.
I'm pretty much waiting till the last few days to be part of the final push.
Me too, although I'm mainly waiting to see if they offer a PayPal option, as I'd rather pay that way.
Man, I wish there was something we could do to make Sega at least issue a response about HD releases. I think as a series, to give it a chance at truly being revived for audiences, it seems cruel not to attempt to work out the licensing issues. Would feel so good to share this game with friends, tell them to download it.
they won't say a word until they've done their internal spreadsheets and cost evaluations.
i mean they might say something during the last week of the campaign if they've been working on it since the reveal. at this point who knows though.
Haunted
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Not worried about that with Yu, cause honestly, the guy lives in his own world. His vision for Shenmue III has been so unwavering that he has been unwilling to compromise on it for 14 years. He's had this thing planned out for so long.
IF there is one guy in gaming I trust to stick to his guns and not be affected by outside influence on his game-building process... this would be the guy.
I just uploaded a new backer news-episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omVWIaSyV9o&list=PLcLC9mFS4Xzp6UW3aNIWoAsxHQ6m-xfUp&index=9
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omVWIaSyV9o&list=PLcLC9mFS4Xzp6UW3aNIWoAsxHQ6m-xfUp&index=9
Enjoy!
Patience is key! I can't seeing Sega saying anything soon or even consider releasing anything soon as you would want to release a remake within a 6 month window of the sequel.
Maybe you might hear something at next E3 at the earliest more than likely something around E3 2017. That is if Sega even goes for the re release which I'm sure they will but probably just a straight port.
Gamezone
Gold Member
I wish they could tell us something at least.
Now I've also updated the stats, took a bit longer today due to the new shenmuetalk-epsiode:
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
'8 X 11 Printer Paper' had you covered, much more stylish graphs than mine.
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
'8 X 11 Printer Paper' had you covered, much more stylish graphs than mine.
videogamer reporting on the ps4 physical edition and the guilin school donating $20,000
I wrote something about the impact of the announcement of the physical PS4 version: http://www.gameblog.fr/news/51895-shenmue-3-quel-impact-pour-l-arrivee-de-la-version-ps4-physi
nelsonroyale
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Tricky I Shadow
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Had no idea about that thread! I just posted in it to bump it. The more Shenmue threads that are on the first page the better!
Acquiescence
Member
Good on them for reporting the whole Guilin school business. That's exactly the kind of thing the gaming press should lend exposure to.
Nightengale
Member
Reading that Eurogamer piece on the world of Shenmue made me want to give a small sphiel on something about Shenmue that's less expressed, but I still feel is so well done.
Shenmues open-world gets a ton of praise, for many reasons that has been eloquently expressed by many people smarter than me. But theres one piece of the puzzle that I feel often never gets talked about a lot when it comes to Shenmue, and that is the beauty of the story and the narrative that drives Shenmue.
Not necessarily the story itself (to date, not a whole lot of meat in it), but the ability for the story to convey such a grand feel of epic.
The core simplicity of Ryos driving force in the grand narrative. The significant amount of mundanity (aka the realness) within the world and how it reflects with the person that he is (Ryo has to eat, sleep, worry about money, etc). And the subtle balance between a defined character that has a very clear attitude, goal between the moments where you feel like youre projecting yourself onto Ryo, in the quieter, less story-focused moments.
The game rarely gives you a grand revelation of what you need to do. You essentially start the game having to do the JRPG thing of needing to ask people, find information, but the inclusion of stuff like needing to take into account the passage of time, get a part-time job, earn money grounds the reality of Ryos mission so much, and it builds so much context around the world around him.
Even the fact that you may choose to wander off the beaten path to do stuff like go to arcades, or days where you literally arent actively searching your fathers killer also feel very real, because that is what happens when real-life hits you in the face with a giant brick. You need money. You need to sleep. You need to take a breather. You cant always be rawr wheres Lan Di!? The game, by making the open-world as real as it was, forces you away from the story of an avenger, into that of the story of a struggling human being having to deal with real life, and that intertwines itself into the narrative so elegantly.
Throughout the game, depending on where you are, what and who you visit, you get subtle nudges to the fact that you are still in pursuit of your mission, but unless you choose to break immersion and literally dont care for an entire year, the game has gives you both the freedom, but there is a sense of linearity in that it directs you to continue searching amidst all the mundanes of the world.
The story of Shenmues first chapter on itself, pretty much tells a story of escalation, as the character, Ryo Hazuki continues onward and onward between his time as an avenger and a struggling human, until the storys high point where the departure of Ryo from Japan to Hong Kong cements Ryos path.
And youd think that once that story sets itself accordingly, youd struggle to do that again, but instead the story manages to tell that same beat elegantly in the Shenmue 2, where outside of the comforts of home, Ryo has to once again struggle with the realities of being a foreigner in an unknown land, and that aspect of the story opens the world to him, humanises the storys beats, while not detracting away from the core story. Suddenly finding lodging, which was just a trip back to your comfortable bed at Yokosuka, becomes a struggle. And even within those beats, there are plenty that drives Ryo forward, as each chapter progresses him along a different part of the world, culminating so far with his meeting with Shenhua in Guilin.
Is it the perfect open-world storytelling design? Honestly, I cant answer that question because I have not played every single one, and even a lot of the recent big popular ones like GTAV or Far Cry 4. But its been 14 years since Shenmue 2, and it puts to shame the storytelling in many open world games by leaps and bounds. Ill just cite one example, since I played it, but Watch_Dogs storytelling is garbage compared to Shenmue.
Shenmues open-world gets a ton of praise, for many reasons that has been eloquently expressed by many people smarter than me. But theres one piece of the puzzle that I feel often never gets talked about a lot when it comes to Shenmue, and that is the beauty of the story and the narrative that drives Shenmue.
Not necessarily the story itself (to date, not a whole lot of meat in it), but the ability for the story to convey such a grand feel of epic.
The core simplicity of Ryos driving force in the grand narrative. The significant amount of mundanity (aka the realness) within the world and how it reflects with the person that he is (Ryo has to eat, sleep, worry about money, etc). And the subtle balance between a defined character that has a very clear attitude, goal between the moments where you feel like youre projecting yourself onto Ryo, in the quieter, less story-focused moments.
The game rarely gives you a grand revelation of what you need to do. You essentially start the game having to do the JRPG thing of needing to ask people, find information, but the inclusion of stuff like needing to take into account the passage of time, get a part-time job, earn money grounds the reality of Ryos mission so much, and it builds so much context around the world around him.
Even the fact that you may choose to wander off the beaten path to do stuff like go to arcades, or days where you literally arent actively searching your fathers killer also feel very real, because that is what happens when real-life hits you in the face with a giant brick. You need money. You need to sleep. You need to take a breather. You cant always be rawr wheres Lan Di!? The game, by making the open-world as real as it was, forces you away from the story of an avenger, into that of the story of a struggling human being having to deal with real life, and that intertwines itself into the narrative so elegantly.
Throughout the game, depending on where you are, what and who you visit, you get subtle nudges to the fact that you are still in pursuit of your mission, but unless you choose to break immersion and literally dont care for an entire year, the game has gives you both the freedom, but there is a sense of linearity in that it directs you to continue searching amidst all the mundanes of the world.
The story of Shenmues first chapter on itself, pretty much tells a story of escalation, as the character, Ryo Hazuki continues onward and onward between his time as an avenger and a struggling human, until the storys high point where the departure of Ryo from Japan to Hong Kong cements Ryos path.
And youd think that once that story sets itself accordingly, youd struggle to do that again, but instead the story manages to tell that same beat elegantly in the Shenmue 2, where outside of the comforts of home, Ryo has to once again struggle with the realities of being a foreigner in an unknown land, and that aspect of the story opens the world to him, humanises the storys beats, while not detracting away from the core story. Suddenly finding lodging, which was just a trip back to your comfortable bed at Yokosuka, becomes a struggle. And even within those beats, there are plenty that drives Ryo forward, as each chapter progresses him along a different part of the world, culminating so far with his meeting with Shenhua in Guilin.
Is it the perfect open-world storytelling design? Honestly, I cant answer that question because I have not played every single one, and even a lot of the recent big popular ones like GTAV or Far Cry 4. But its been 14 years since Shenmue 2, and it puts to shame the storytelling in many open world games by leaps and bounds. Ill just cite one example, since I played it, but Watch_Dogs storytelling is garbage compared to Shenmue.
Theonik
Member
It is likely but not confirmed. By backing the Kickstarter you are guaranteeing that you get a copy and are helping make the game better.
You also get a nifty KS only case that won't be sold in retail.
IronicSonic
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Acquiescence
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This Volunteer English Teacher Program in Guilin is hilarious. How can these kids be expected to learn our language when their teacher is too busy donating to a Kickstarter I don't particularly care about. Read more at Kotaku.
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